In this episode, Clayton chats with Hermann Sloot, Commercial Director of Calysta, the company behind the innovative protein ingredient FeedKind. Together, they dive deep into the fascinating world of microbial protein, a sustainable, non-animal protein source created through natural fermentation. Hermann explains how this technology works, scaling from lab to factory, and why it's a crucial answer to the global protein shortage facing the pet food industry. KEY TAKEAWAYS FeedKind is produced by fermenting natural bacteria found in soils (specifically Methylococcus capsulatus Bath) using gas, ammonia, and vitamins, similar to how yeast is used to make bread or beer, resulting in a highly scalable, nutrient-rich protein. While many alternative proteins are still in the lab phase, Calysta has already built the world’s first commercial-scale factory capable of producing 15,000 metric tons of protein annually, moving beyond theory into real-world application. Beyond being a sustainable protein source, studies show microbial protein offers specific health benefits for pets, including improved gut health, postbiotic effects, and high digestibility that rivals traditional animal proteins. Hermann discusses the consumer disconnect regarding meat quality, noting that while pet owners often prize ‘fresh meat’, mechanically separated meats and by-products are standard. The biggest hurdle for novel ingredients isn't the science but the story. Success lies in shifting the narrative from ‘sustainable alternative’ to focusing on tangible pet health benefits like gut immunity and digestibility to win over skeptical consumers. BEST MOMENTS "The challenge for the pet food industry is that we have grown agri-food supply chains to such an extent that you might even ask, how are we going to continue that? Can we extrapolate all that growth in the coming decades?” "We are kind of a disruptor as well in animal nutrition. We bring a complete new technology, fermentation technology, into the game by which we can produce also proteins for animal feed." "The benefit is not that it contains insects, the benefit is not that it contains a microbial protein, the benefit should be something that is an issue with the dog." "I think the pet food industry are kind of magicians as well. They work with by-products and look at what the pet food producers are doing to create a pet food product. It's like producing baby food." "Sustainability never sells anything, nobody buys on sustainability, you can't appeal to everyone. The hurdle should be around realistic today's use cases rather than trying to make a narrative of striking fear into people's hearts." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
