The Plunge with Derek Holser

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The Plunge is a serial podcast, hosted by Derek Holser, and anchored by conversations about Theology, Philosophy, and Culture. The Plunge is a forum for producing extended conversations with a variety of guests that invite the listener to explore stories and their creators, thinkers and their ideas, artists and athletes, and their unique aesthetics. The Plunge endeavors to dive into deep waters safely and freely, by welcoming thinkers from various areas of human expression. Each topic will be presented with a variety of guest conversationalists, over a period of 8-12 weeks and each series is intended to be accessible and enjoyable for the curious and the studious. Welcome to the Plunge: Let’s Dive In!

  1. 3d ago

    Petronija Makaveeva | Artists & Athletes: The Path to Transcendent Beauty

    Welcome to Artists & Athletes: The Path to Transcendent Beauty. This is Episode Three of our second season of The Human Series. This series is an attempt to explore the full range, depth, and wonder of this mystery of being human. Joining me today is Petronija Makaveeva. Petronja Pavlinka Makaveeva was born in 1976 in the Republic of Macedonia. She is an iconographer and mosaicist. Through her work as a journalist and contributor to various television programs—and later as a creator of documentary projects focused on archaeology and Macedonian cultural heritage—she became drawn to ecclesiastical art, icon painting, and monastic life. She spent seven years at the Monastery of Saint Mary Magdalene, where she honed her skills in fresco and icon painting. In 2001, she began her first painting workshop at the Bigorski Monastery, later continuing her work at the Monastery of Saint Mary Magdalene in Dojran. She has held ten art exhibitions across Europe, and her mosaics and frescoes can be found in numerous places of worship and public squares. In 2016, she moved to Italy, where she created a fresco for the baptistery of the Orthodox church in Neive—the town where she still lives and works today. As of 2025, she has embarked on a new chapter, dedicating herself to research and creative endeavors within the realm of iconography and Orthodoxy in the United States. Till today she has been working as an iconographer for 30 years. From Petronija: An introduction to my art: following university studies in painting in France, as well as various courses and training in drawing and iconography, I decided to move into the world of icons, frescoes, and mosaics. The discipline within art history that I focus on is known as iconography. I am a mosaicist and iconographer—or, in Greek, an "hagiographer"—and the works I create are liturgical icons that carry theological significance. The primary technique used in the world of Byzantine iconography involves powdered pigments. Depending on the binding agent used to disperse the color, different decorative techniques can be distinguished: Tempera: This term refers to any technique that uses organic substances (such as egg yolk, rabbit-skin glue—either in granular or ready-to-use form—or gum arabic) as a binder for pigments. This is the technique I employ in my own work. Fresco: A technique in which the surface being decorated—freshly applied plaster (such as lime putty)—acts as the binder for the pigments. Just as with my frescoes, I use traditional materials for my mosaics. They are primarily composed of fragments of stone, terracotta, glass paste, and Venetian glass, which are applied to a surface using a binder to form the desired image. All of my works serve a decorative purpose and are intended to adorn various spaces—most notably sacred, monumental, or private architectural settings. Thanks to their durability and resistance to change, they can be installed on both floors and walls. ⸻ 📲 Connect with Derek Holser: 🐦 Twitter / X: https://X.com/derekholser 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@derekholser 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplungewithderekholser/ 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/derekholser 📚 New Book! Lightgliders ➡ Grab it NOW: https://tinyurl.com/yc8zcztc

  2. Aug 26

    C.S. Lewis: The Great Divorce | Summer Replay Series

    Welcome to Episode Four in our Summer Replay Series. Today's conversation features Jess Lederman, Elizabeth Hardy, David Burnett, and Turner Burnett. The discussion covers perspectives on the C.S. Lewis novel The Great Divorce, with an emphasis on Lewis's relationship with George MacDonald, and Lewis's portrayal of heaven, hell, and the afterlife.        To listen to the entire conversation with Jess, click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plunge-with-derek-holser/id1762146345?i=1000684949599           To listen to the entire conversation with Elizabeth, click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plunge-with-derek-holser/id1762146345?i=1000683073754           To listen to the entire conversation with David and Turner, click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plunge-with-derek-holser/id1762146345?i=1000678319767             There is no other day. All days are present now. This moment contains all moments... Heaven is reality itself. All that is fully real is Heavenly. For all that can be shaken will be shaken and only the unshakeable remains... Everything becomes more and more itself. Here is joy that cannot be shaken. Our light can swallow up your darkness; but your darkness cannot now infect our light...   ⸻ 📲 Connect with Derek Holser: 🐦 Twitter / X: https://X.com/derekholser 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@derekholser 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplungewithderekholser/ 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/derekholser 📚 Latest Book! Lightgliders ➡ https://www.amazon.com/Tambika-Shield-Wisdom-Lightglider-Origins/dp/1645075486   ⸻

  3. Aug 18

    Human Relationships and the Image of God | Summer Replay Series

    Welcome to Episode Three in our Summer Replay Series.       Today's conversation features Dr. Heather Huckett, Dr. Don Lichi, Margaret Fay, and Pastor Justin Bryeans. As psychologists, counselors, and pastors, they work at the intersection of human identity, relationships, and spirituality.  These discussions explore how we think and feel about ourselves, one another, and the divine.      To listen to the entire conversation with Heather, click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plunge-with-derek-holser/id1762146345?i=1000718982994         To listen to the entire conversation with Don, click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plunge-with-derek-holser/id1762146345?i=1000720219913           To listen to the entire conversation with Margaret, click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plunge-with-derek-holser/id1762146345?i=1000716833166       To listen to the entire conversation with Justin, click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plunge-with-derek-holser/id1762146345?i=1000722091330           ⸻ 📲 Connect with Derek Holser: 🐦 Twitter / X: https://X.com/derekholser 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@derekholser 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplungewithderekholser/ 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/derekholser 📚 Latest Book! Lightgliders ➡ https://www.amazon.com/Tambika-Shield-Wisdom-Lightglider-Origins/dp/1645075486

  4. Jul 10 ·  Bonus

    Owen Barfield: The Evolution of Consciousness | Summer Replay Series

    Welcome to Episode Two in our Summer Replay Series. Today's conversation features Laura Van Dyke, Owen A. Barfield, Landon Loftin, and Max Leyf. The discussion covers some biographical elements of Owen Barfield's life, along with his work on the imagination, his "Great War" with C.S. Lewis, and his lifelong pursuit of anthroposophy, as developed by the philosopher Rudolf Steiner.   To view the entire conversation with Laura, click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFo74tCJlUg&list=PLyZJdcfxNq7UGQ-LGcMVGDuLj8w1Bx2MM&index=4     To view the entire conversation with Owen, click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ66daOsYfg&list=PLyZJdcfxNq7UGQ-LGcMVGDuLj8w1Bx2MM&index=6     To view the entire conversation with Landon, click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AhwBKr4OsU&list=PLyZJdcfxNq7UGQ-LGcMVGDuLj8w1Bx2MM&index=1     To view the entire conversation with Max, click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJLXVa2fCW0&list=PLyZJdcfxNq7UGQ-LGcMVGDuLj8w1Bx2MM&index=10         Owen Barfield (1898–1997) was an English philosopher, author, poet, critic, and solicitor best known as a foundational member of the Inklings literary circle. Born in London to a solicitor father and suffragette mother, he was educated at Highgate School and Wadham College, Oxford, where he earned a first-class degree in English language and literature in 1920; his subsequent B.Litt. thesis became the basis for his influential early work. In 1923, he married musician and choreographer Maud Douie; the couple adopted three children, including daughter Lucy, C.S. Lewis’s goddaughter. Barfield met C.S. Lewis at Oxford in 1919 and maintained a close, forty-four-year friendship marked by their famous “Great War” debates over imagination, materialism, and anthroposophy; Lewis repeatedly acknowledged Barfield as one of his most important intellectual companions and dedicated The Allegory of Love to him. Barfield earned the title “first and last Inkling” for the depth of his influence on the group’s thinking about language, myth, and meaning. After a decade devoted to poetry and writing, Barfield qualified as a solicitor in 1934 and practiced law in London until retiring in 1959 at age sixty, after which he served as a visiting professor at several North American universities.  Barfield’s central philosophical project was tracing The Evolution of Consciousness— the historical transformation of how humans perceive and participate in reality through changes in language and thought. Deeply shaped by Rudolf Steiner’s anthroposophy (which he helped introduce to English-speaking readers), he contrasted “original participation,” the primordial, intuitive unity with a meaningful cosmos expressed in the living metaphors of early language, with modern “idolatry,” the habit of treating abstract scientific representations as the sole reality while ignoring our participatory role in constituting the phenomenal world. His landmark Poetic Diction: A Study in Meaning (1928) demonstrated how poetry recovers lost semantic vitality and reveals the history of consciousness itself. In the widely admired Saving the Appearances: A Study in Idolatry (1957), he argued that genuine knowledge requires “final participation,” a conscious, redeemed reunion with the world that overcomes the alienation of purely representational thinking.   Other major works— History in English Words (1926), Romanticism Comes of Age (1944), Speaker’s Meaning (1967), and The Rediscovery of Meaning (1977)—extend these themes across linguistics, literary criticism, and cultural history. Barfield’s ideas profoundly shaped Lewis’s and Tolkien’s imaginative worlds and continue to inspire contemporary efforts to re-enchant modern thought by recovering participatory, imaginative ways of knowing.       ⸻ 📲 Connect with Derek Holser: 🐦 Twitter / X: https://X.com/derekholser 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@derekholser 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theplungewithderekholser/ 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/derekholser 📚 Latest Book! Lightgliders ➡ https://www.amazon.com/Tambika-Shield-Wisdom-Lightglider-Origins/dp/1645075486   ⸻

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The Plunge is a serial podcast, hosted by Derek Holser, and anchored by conversations about Theology, Philosophy, and Culture. The Plunge is a forum for producing extended conversations with a variety of guests that invite the listener to explore stories and their creators, thinkers and their ideas, artists and athletes, and their unique aesthetics. The Plunge endeavors to dive into deep waters safely and freely, by welcoming thinkers from various areas of human expression. Each topic will be presented with a variety of guest conversationalists, over a period of 8-12 weeks and each series is intended to be accessible and enjoyable for the curious and the studious. Welcome to the Plunge: Let’s Dive In!

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