Theater History and Mysteries

Dr. Jon Bruschke, PhD

The deepest dives you can find anywhere into the history and backstory of the great musical productions.  Dense content...for people who aren't.  And, I’ll never miss an opportunity to pursue any mystery, bizarre coincidence, improbable event, or supernatural suggestion along the way because, in the words of Dirk Gentley, it is all connected. You can contact me directly at theaterhistorypodcast@gmail.com Released every other Tuesday.  Music by Jon Bruschke and Andrew Howat, arranged, performed, and recorded by Andrew Howat. Check out the interview on Musical Theater Radio, episode 404: https://www.musicaltheatreradio.com/podcast

  1. 9H AGO

    The Secret Garden -- an interview with Emily Clark (episode 38)

    Send a text What’s the most awesome theater moment you’ve had?  Not, like, the biggest show you’ve been in, or the biggest audience you’ve played to, or the best tickets you ever had…those are important.  I want you to think about awesome…the time you were in times square on the way to a show, stopped to take a picture with Elmo, and got photo bombed by Patrick Stewart.  Or the time you were in a production of In the Heights and right before the blackout scene the power really did go out…Or you were on stage and your fellow performer forgot all their lines and you successfully improved Weird Al Yankovich lyrics for 5 minutes.  I mean, AWESOME. Today’s guest is Emily Clark, and she’d have a tough time answering that question, because her life, and she, are awesome.  But for my money, it was this: BIGFOOT!!  She was in Bigfoot the musical!  That’s like an 11 out of 10 on the awesome scale.  And it’s obviously tounge-in cheek, but works as a comedy, has great music, according to Emily is about to open off-broadway, definitely won the 2024 Best of Fringe award…but more than any of that…it’s just awesome. Today we are going to meet performer, educator, townie in Bigfoot, and Cal. State Fullerton Master’s candidate Emily Clark, who is going to share with us her research about the Secret Garden, which is of course a beloved children’s book and was a Broadway musical that had 7 Tony nomination and 3 wins in 1991…and it was one of the first ever show with an all-female production team.  We’ll cover all that ground, and get to meet Emily, but first…let’s run the intro… Support the show

    57 min
  2. FEB 24

    Hadestown...how do we save the environment? (Hadestown 8/8, episode 37)

    Send a text To really understand the smash musical Hadestown, you have to understand…mines.  Hear me out. Hadestown isn’t just a re-telling of the ancient Orpheus tale, as the name suggest it’s a story that focuses on a particular location…the underworld. And there is obviously a conscious choice to make the underworld much different than the Greeks imagined it, and much more like the company towns associated with the early industrial era.  And not just any company towns, but mining towns.  What you can’t really miss about the show is that it’s focused on Hades and it’s a mining town. The other thing you can’t miss is that it’s about environmental destruction and oppression – Eurydice has to make a deal with Hades because she can’t find food and shelter on the surface, and Orpheus can’t provide it.  The only one with control over resources is Hades, and he is obviously mostly interested in keeping himself at the top of the food chain.  The show is an invitation to think about the themes in the Orpheus myth, but do so in the context of a real world threatened by growing levels of corporate control and ever-greater threats to the natural environment. And it’s all centered around…mines.  So what is it about mines that is so important to the central themes of the show?  Grab your pickaxe, put a canary in a cage, strap on your hard hat, and let’s go into the tunnels together on this episode of THM. Climate myth citations https://www.nrdc.org/stories/hadestown-coal-fired-lights-are-bright-broadway https://www.history.com/articles/industrial-revolution https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/06/too-late-climate-crisis-myth/ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-battle-of-blair-mountain/ https://www.teenvogue.com/story/workers-rights-won-by-unions https://energyhistory.yale.edu/coal-mining-and-labor-conflict/ Support the show

    46 min
  3. FEB 10

    Hadestown...how do we save the environment? (Hadestown 7/8, episode 36)

    Send a text Hadestown is a story about politics.  You’ve seen the show, so you know that it’s the ancient Greek story of Orpheus put in a fictional but modern setting – a “a post-apocalyptic  American Depression  era.”  It’s a world of environmental ravage and resource scarcity.  Hades himself is unambiguously an industrialist, a mine-owner, and a tyrant.  “It was hard times” is a line straight from the dialogue of the show There is no doubt that Anais Mitchell, the author, is putting political issues right in the front and center of the audience.  And the question is – what are we gonna do about it? Today we will talk about Mitchell’s answer – how should the public respond to income inequality, unfair working conditions, environmental destruction, and sexism?  A truism is that those who benefit from our current arrangement aren’t going to walk away from the things that are making them filthy rich just because it’s the right thing to do.  We have to do something to force the change.  There aren’t a lot of great models out there – So, what should we do? And to me, this is really the heart of the show, because while the problems that Mitchell puts in the script are obvious, the obvious answer to all those problems in the script is – seems a little futile.  We should find a musician who will write a song good enough to restore balance to the universe, it won’t work, and then we’ll toast him for trying.  Just like Sisyphus pushing his rock up a hill for all eternity, we should try again. I mean, that’s not Annie. Is that all there is to it?  Is that enough?  Is that a satisfying answer?  Mitchell is right – the environment is in a lot of trouble, and the guys who are destroying it are all about building walls and not so much empowering the workers.  What should we do? If you want a big answer you gotta ask a big question, and Mitchell has certainly done that.  How do you get out of Hadestown without looking back?  We’ll see if we can figure out what Orpheus could not, on this episode of THM. References UNEP: https://www.unep.org/interactives/geo-7-feature/2025 Support the show

    1h 10m
  4. JAN 27

    What does Hadestown say about race and gender? (Hadestown 6/8, episode 35)

    Send a text Are there crazy connections in the world?  In 1984 I was a 4th-year college debater at Cal. State Fullerton with aspirations of finishing in the top 16 in the country when my partner quit.  In January I was paired up with a sophomore, and we needed an argument nobody else was talking about…right when a change of power in Egypt put Hosni Mubarak in the geopolitical spotlight.  We based our entire argument strategy on how various government actions might mess up that transition and the global impact it would have.  In our sophomoric tone, common to 20-year-old males and strangely tolerated in the world of competitive academic debate, we labelled the argument “You hose Hosni.”  The basic claim was that the regime was fragile, and easily disrupted. In what must have been very close to that same year, Anais Mitchell – who would go on to write Hadestown – had this experience, which she recounted in her book “Working on a song” – In college I studied abroad in Cairo, Egypt.  May Arabic Lit professor was an older woman with dark eyeliner who took it upon herself ot introduce leftist, bohemian values to a generate of distracted young Egyptians.  She barely concealed her disdain for then-President Hosni Mubarak” Both the Arabic Lit professor and our undergraduate drivel were proven right by history!  In February of 2011, Mubarak was ousted from power following violent protests… Unlike Hosni Mubarak, both Anais Mitchell and, in a far less spectacular way, I understood that the world was changing.  The future would not belong to autocrats, but to those who explored the emerging concerns of that bohemian, mobile-phone using generation: Race, gender, the environment, and the working class.  This is where the revolution lies, and this is where it’s dangerous to light the match.  So we’ll use of phone flashlights as we look at race, gender, and the environment as the issues play out in this episode of THM. Rosalind Henderson https://medium.com/@rosalindhenderson_54321/toxic-masculinity-a-leading-cause-of-our-environmental-issues-d2e9d6fb58bf Support the show

    1h 2m
  5. JAN 13

    Hadestown...and autism (Hadestown 5/8, episode 34)

    Send a text Hadestown Episode 5 script – Autism In my favorite episode of this show, I went to the Phantom of the Opera sites on Facebook and asked people what they thought about the show and why it worked for them.  The follow-up question was whether they would come on to the show and speak about their experiences.   Of the responses I got, a surprising number of folks identified that they were neuroatypical.  I didn’t even know that was true of them until they told me.  But descriptions of hyperfocus and late-life diagnoses were, honestly, more powerful than most of the topics we have delved into on this show. I can’t really say how much I respected those people and the stories they shared.  I don’t want to present their lives like I have some master understanding of the issue, but I do think that just listening to what they had to say rounded out who they were as people and provided a whole new depth to what neurodivergence is and, importantly for this show, how it relates to theater. This series, however, is about Hadestown, not the Phantom.  The big bad isn’t a shunned creature who lurks in the shadows, but a god who rules over one-third of the universe and is in charge of hell itself.  The central character isn’t a warped man living in the catacombs, it is the beautiful, naïve poet who still believes he can change the world with a song. Imagine my delight when I found in the hallowed pages of the academic journal Studies in Musical Theater an article with the title: Hadestown’s Orpheus: The autistic hero musical theatre didn’t know it needed I didn’t know I needed it on this podcast, but here we are! What is the connection between autism and Hadestown?  Does it play out in the actual plot?  Was it part of Anais Mitchell’s rewriting of the Orpheus character as the show developed?  We’ll crack the cover and leaf through the pages together on this episode of THM. Support the show

    56 min
  6. 12/16/2025

    Mitchell's version of the Orpheus story compared to Virgil and Ovid (Hadestown 3/8, episode 32)

    Send a text The ancient poet Virgil died of a fever with his master work still unfinished…and it was left to his executors to finish the work.  The book was the Aeneid, and it would be, in its time, the definitive work on the founding myths and stories of the Roman state.  This would cement his role as the greatest poet of his day, and it is a legacy that has never died.  Virgil is still read today.   But the stories he told were his own adaptations.  His version of Orpheus was different from that of Homer and Euripides.  He wasn’t even re-telling the story so much as inventing it. He was followed by Ovid, who would also have impacts at a historic level.  His books, too, are still read, and his contributions, too, carried on the Greek and Roman tradition in a way that is still recognizable today.  And he, too, told the story in his own way.  Scholars would write that he very consciously not only adapted the ancient stories for his own use, he would take VIRGIL’S story and freely change them for his own use. And twenty centuries later, a folk musician named Anais Mitchell would take this great story, powerfully carried forward in these two great works, and do what Virgil and Ovid had both done: Told their own story, in their own way, to make the story ring true for their audiences. What changes did Mitchell make, and why did she make them?  Did she ever ask “Who am I to think that I can hold my head up higher than my fellow humans?”  Could this modern bard write something that would improve on Virgil and Ovid.  She sure did, and we’ll find out how in this episode of THM. Support the show

    1h 12m

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The deepest dives you can find anywhere into the history and backstory of the great musical productions.  Dense content...for people who aren't.  And, I’ll never miss an opportunity to pursue any mystery, bizarre coincidence, improbable event, or supernatural suggestion along the way because, in the words of Dirk Gentley, it is all connected. You can contact me directly at theaterhistorypodcast@gmail.com Released every other Tuesday.  Music by Jon Bruschke and Andrew Howat, arranged, performed, and recorded by Andrew Howat. Check out the interview on Musical Theater Radio, episode 404: https://www.musicaltheatreradio.com/podcast