The Business of Expansion with Hale Schneider

Hale Schneider
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Conversations with entrepreneurs and leaders working in the area of the expansion of human consciousness.

  1. Aug 4

    EP 35: Sex, Power, and the Real Story of est with MARCIA MARTIN

    At 22, Marcia Martin sat in a San Francisco room of 30 people when the Human Potential Movement was born. She became the first vice president of est, the training company that grew into Landmark, and the woman Werner Erhard called "the one who put est on the map." She was there for the founding of est, LifeSpring, the Hoffman Process, Tony Robbins' early years, the Transformational Leadership Council she built with Jack Canfield, and even the filming of The Secret. In this conversation she tells the real story of how the modern self-help industry was built, the good and the bad, drawn from her new memoir Sex, Power, and Transformation. We get into how genuine breakthroughs and outright manipulation lived side by side in the same room, why movements that change lives so often curdle into something cult-like, and the warning signs Marcia learned to spot after watching the same arc play out again and again. She shares the demonstration that made her go all in, the "gift" that came with a catch, and the one simple practice she says changes everything. If you build anything with people, or you've ever wondered how good movements go bad, this one stays with you. Chapters 00:00  Meet Marcia Martin 02:09  How the Human Potential Movement was born 04:26  Werner Erhard, Mind Dynamics, and the birth of est 11:16  When fame, power, and money corrupt a movement 14:35  Inside the training: "your levels" and the demonstration 21:56  What made est different: Scientology's influence 30:50  When community becomes hierarchy 37:51  Leading transformation without building a cult 43:46  Leaving est: the car, the gaslighting, the betrayal 47:15  After est: Hollywood, the media company, and the TLC 58:04  Marcia's new workshop and the architecture of leadership 1:06:23  Building with integrity: grow like nature, learn by doing 1:16:17  Closing wisdom: center before you act 1:19:19  Hale's takeaways   Links & Resources mentioned Book: Sex, Power, and Transformation by Marcia Martin Website: marciamartin.com Landmark Worldwide (the Landmark Forum, formerly est) Esalen Institute, co-founded by Michael Murphy The Silva Method, founded by José Silva The Hoffman Process Jack Canfield and the Transformational Leadership Council Tony Robbins Lynne Twist and the Pachamama Alliance   Connect Join the free Business of Expansion community Hale's Instagram

  2. Jun 30

    EP 34: Is Your Growth Gap a Frequency Problem? with SAM KUKATHAS

    What if the gap between where you are and where you want to be isn't a strategy problem — it's a frequency problem? That's the central question Sam Kukathas brings to this conversation, and his answer will likely challenge everything you think you know about growth, identity, and what it actually takes to collapse time between your current reality and your biggest vision. Sam's story is one of the most unusual you'll hear on this show: from academic philosopher studying David Hume, to discovering mid-psychedelic journey that he could channel other people's energy, to building a technology platform that recalibrates human consciousness at scale. We get into the moment a voice boomed through him loud enough to shut the windows, the 13 years it took to let go of a PhD he'd outgrown, and what it looks like when a $100M belief shift happens in under an hour. This is a conversation about the intersection of inner frequency and outer results — and why the most visionary leaders still get stuck.   What We Cover How Sam went from academic philosopher to energy healer to creator of Resonance OS The psychedelic journey that cracked everything open — and the "booming voice" that led him into energy work What "collapsing time" actually means and how it works in practice The $100M belief shift: how clearing one subconscious pattern expanded a client's vision from $4.5M to $100M in a single session The $20M deal that came through four hours after a group wealth frequency event How Sam cleared a client's 25-year gut issue and business blocks simultaneously in one session Why visionary leaders get stuck even when they have a great strategy The 13-year journey of letting go of his doctorate — and the moment Buddha and Yogananda told him it was done Resonance OS: the vision for creating the "overview effect" in everyday human experience The frequency of you — and why becoming a copy of your mentor is a waste of your gifts   Connect with Sam 1) Soul Purpose Leaders 2) Resonance OS 3) Sam's instagram 4) Sam's Linkedin   Links & Resources Join the Business of Expansion community (free): thebusinessofexpansion.com/join Connect with Hale on Instagram and LinkedIn Subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify

  3. May 20

    EP 33: Beyond Reality: Consciousness, Connection, and AI with JENNIFER K. HILL

    In this episode, I sit down with Jennifer K. Hill — the "fairy godmother of human connection" — to explore her Golden Triangle of Connection framework and why self-connection is the foundation everything else is built on. We dive into heart-focused breathing, the neuroscience of why it works, and how to use it as a daily reset. Jennifer also shares her "death card year" — the sudden loss of her business partner, the collapse of a major acquisition, and the unexpected rebirth that followed — including the Jen Hill Tribe and how she's using AI to deepen human connection, not replace it. 00:00 Fairy Godmother Intro 01:09 Purpose Through Connection 03:30 Align App Gifts 05:15 Defining Consciousness 09:24 Don Hoffman Serendipity 12:57 Golden Triangle Framework 15:20 Inner Child Self Love 16:54 HeartMath Coherence Practice 29:07 Recovering A*****e Story 32:07 Rewiring Your Presence 33:27 Death Card Year Begins 36:11 Julian's Sudden Passing 37:01 Tribe Becomes Community 40:50 Mentors and Letting Go 43:17 AI and Human Connection 48:11 Is AI Conscious 51:03 The Field and Attention 56:11 Global Sadness and Self Hug 59:30 Where to Find Jen 01:01:00 Key Takeaways and Wrap Resources mentioned in the episode: 1) Align App 2) Heartmath Institute 3) Sedona Method 4) Transcendental Meditation 5) Zodiac.fm 6) The Anti-A*****e Prayer Books: 1)  The Case Against Reality 2)  Pure Human 3)  Secret of Secrets 4)  Waste Tide     @haleschneider ✨ Want to meet like-minded conscious entrepreneurs and leaders?  Join the Business of Expansion Community: www.thebusinessofexpansion.com/join

  4. Mar 24

    EP 32: Consciousness at Davos and the Future of Human Flourishing with ASH MORACA

    In this episode, I sit down with Ash Moraca, founder of Retreat and co-creator of the House of Consciousness at Davos, to explore what it looks like to bring consciousness, healing, and human flourishing into spaces shaping the future of business and society. We talk about regenerative business, conscious leadership, the tension of building in the startup world without losing your values, and why inner transformation has to be part of systems change. Ash also shares how her own healing journey informs the way she builds. This episode is for entrepreneurs and leaders who know business can be about more than growth alone. If you're interested in consciousness, entrepreneurship, and the future we're creating, this conversation is for you. Chapters 00:00 Consciousness Meets Davos 01:21 Why Create the House 02:30 Inside Davos Energy 04:22 Arc of the Day 06:27 What Comes Next 08:08 Synchronicities and Setup 10:38 Lessons and Collaboration 11:48 Funding Without Agenda 13:04 Healing Journey Origins 15:43 Modalities That Helped 18:19 Purpose and Calling 19:13 From Healing to Startup 21:27 Building the Retreat Platform 24:16 Blended Practices Live 25:59 Fundraising Sacred Work 27:57 Finding Human Flourishing Investors 29:37 Defining Human Flourishing 30:23 Founder Day to Day 30:37 Balancing Work and Life 31:59 Anti Hustle Guardrails 35:11 Business as Consciousness 36:49 Tuning Into Retreat Energy 41:59 Regenerative Business Design 44:23 Future Paradigms and AI 49:27 Consciousness as Trojan Horse 54:47 Where to Find Ash 56:04 Host Takeaways and Wrap LINKS: 1) Ash's personal website 2) Retreat App 3) House of Consciousness @haleschneider ✨ Want to meet like-minded conscious entrepreneurs and leaders?  Join the Business of Expansion Community: www.thebusinessofexpansion.com/join

  5. Mar 10

    EP 31: Burnout, Identity Collapse, and Meaning: Psychotherapy Meets High Performance with AGGELOS MOUZAKITIS

    In this episode I interview Aggelos Mouzakitis, an integrative psychotherapist and coach for high achievers and founders who blends psychotherapy with product-growth research techniques.   Aggelos shares how user interviewing and psychology models drew him into formal training, why he delayed practicing after confronting life-and-death cases in a cancer hospital clinic, and how his own extreme success, bankruptcy, and identity crisis reshaped his work.   We explore how high performers often seek external validation, why burnout is frequently driven by meaningless work rather than effort, and what happens psychologically when an achiever identity is threatened—denial, insecurity, impostor feelings, depressive symptoms, confusion, and anger—followed by new identity formation.    Chapters: 00:00 Burnout Identity Collapse 01:17 Aggelos Origin Story 01:42 From Product Research to Therapy 05:17 Becoming Ready to Practice 09:20 Therapy Meets Coaching 13:39 Prescriptions vs Real Needs 17:01 When Success Cracks Identity 21:47 Breaking External Validation 26:57 Rebuilding a New Self 28:45 Tear It Down Temptation 29:41 Corporate to Startup Reality Check 33:05 De Risking Big Leaps 37:36 Dopamine Planning Trap 39:17 Hustle Culture and Self Worth 41:37 Meaning and Flow Clarity 45:39 His Own Identity Crisis 50:13 Burnout Hype and Vulnerability 54:50 Therapy as Performance Stack 57:33 Final Takeaways and Outro   Links: 1) Aggelos' website 2) Outgrown - diagnostic workbook   @haleschneider ✨ Want to meet like-minded conscious entrepreneurs and leaders?  Join the Business of Expansion Community: www.thebusinessofexpansion.com/join

  6. Mar 3

    EP 30: From Force to Power: Shifting Entrepreneurial Consciousness with JACLYN ORENT"

    On today's episode I'm joined by Jaclyn Orent, who describes becoming a "cultural catalyst" and "frequency architect" after realizing her coaching produced exponential results that didn't fit conventional results-based structures.   Drawing on David Hawkins' Power vs. Force and Letting Go, she explains consciousness as the root driver of leadership, health, relationships, and business outcomes, and demonstrates Hawkins' three-step surrender process.   She integrates Hawkins' work with Richard Boyatzis' intentional change theory and Benjamin Hardy's scaling frameworks to show how impossible goals and timelines can simplify decisions when they generate positive emotional attractor energy rather than depletion.    00:00 Consciousness as Bottleneck 00:58 Meet Jacqueline Orent 01:42 Cultural Catalyst Origin 04:27 Exponential Client Results 06:40 Power Versus Force 08:55 Raising Consciousness Process 10:43 Letting Go Technique 12:40 Stop Fixing Everything 16:45 Hawkins Bridge Science 18:31 Research Allies and Books 22:43 Building Cultural Catalyst System 23:05 Scaling for Cultural Change 26:23 Resonance Creates Change 29:01 Peers and Network Need 30:51 Goal Setting Contradictions 32:05 Goals That Drain Energy 32:39 Vision Before Performance 33:18 Impossible Goals Done Right 35:07 Founders Fear Letting Go 37:55 Finding the Floor Fast 40:41 Personal Floor Wedding Delay 43:34 Detachment and Commitment 47:19 Building Cultural Catalyst Network 50:46 Masterclass and EFT Tools 54:12 Identity and Resonant Peers 57:51 Fractal Change Love Over Fear 01:01:07 Final Takeaways and Wrap Links: 1) Cultural Catalyst Masterclass 2) Power vs Force 3) Science of Change 4) The Science of Scaling   @haleschneider ✨ Want to meet like-minded conscious entrepreneurs and leaders?  Join the Business of Expansion Community: www.thebusinessofexpansion.com/join

  7. Feb 10

    EP 29: Quantum Networking and the Evolution of Human Connection with GIL PETERSIL

    In this episode I sit down with Gil Petersil, a global community builder and networking expert.   Gil shares his transformative insights on networking, redefining it as a spiritual practice essential for conscious leaders. The conversation explores Gil's concept of quantum networking, the importance of time awareness, and practical strategies for enhancing your networking abilities.    Additionally, Gil delves into his innovative tea project, Chatea, aimed at fostering human connection through mindful tea ceremonies.    00:00 Introduction to Quantum Networking 01:25 Exploring the Concept of Belonging 04:26 Practical Tips for Building Connections 07:02 From Business to Movements 13:40 The Spiritual Side of Networking 21:25 Understanding Quantum Networking 38:15 The Power of Networking Levels Three and Four 38:48 Weekly Networking Practices and Cadence 39:52 Understanding and Meeting People's Needs 41:06 The Importance of Self-Belief in Networking 41:46 Effective Networking Strategies and Practices 44:42 The Concept of Karmic Management 47:24 The Role of Networking Angels 55:15 The Tea Project and Its Origins 01:02:41 The Vision for Tea and Networking 01:11:18 Final Thoughts and Takeaways Links: 1) Gil's Website 2) Gil's LinkedIn 3) Chatea 4) Karmic Management book      @haleschneider ✨ Want to meet like-minded conscious entrepreneurs and leaders?  Join the Business of Expansion Community: www.thebusinessofexpansion.com/join

  8. Feb 3

    EP 28: Dubai's Conscious Leadership Movement with MATTHIEU BONELLI

    In this episode I'm joined by Matthieu Bonelli, founder of Conscious Leaders Dubai, for an in-depth conversation about conscious leadership.   We discuss how true leadership begins with self-awareness and the impact of the energy leaders bring into a room. Matthieu shares his journey from corporate burnout to building a conscious leadership movement in Dubai.   We go into the significance of observing rather than obeying the inner saboteur, the importance of identity shifts, and various techniques such as breath work and human design that aid in personal and leadership growth.    We also touch on the unique environment of Dubai and how it's both a challenge and an opportunity for fostering conscious leadership.   00:00 Introduction to Conscious Leadership 01:29 Defining a Conscious Leader 03:08 Setting the Energy in Leadership 04:23 Understanding and Challenging the Inner Saboteur 14:10 Matthew's Journey to Conscious Leadership 18:02 Building a Conscious Leadership Movement in Dubai 26:25 Program Structure and Identity Shifts 32:43 Exploring Breathwork and Its Accessibility 33:33 Finding the Right Breathwork for You 35:15 Personal Meditative Practices 36:30 Curiosity and Experimentation in Practices 36:43 Insights from a Three-Month Program 40:54 Transformative Leadership Experiences 44:04 Spirituality and Human Design 46:41 The Power of Breathwork and Free Diving 50:33 Moving from Valencia to Dubai 54:40 Brain Mapping and Conscious Leadership 01:02:11 Final Thoughts and Takeaways Episode Links: Matthieu's YouTube Channel Conscious Leaders Dubai Matthieu's LinkedIn        @haleschneider ✨ Want to meet like-minded conscious entrepreneurs and leaders?  Join the Business of Expansion Community: www.thebusinessofexpansion.com/join

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