PESPod - the insiders' guide to the EU labour market (pespodeu)

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The PES podcast has the latest exciting news on the work of the Public Employment Services (PES) in the EU. The monthly podcasts are produced by the European PES Network, with the financing support of the European Union. PES experts and researchers discuss a current labour market topic for everyone with an interest in the European labour market

  1. May 5

    Predicting the skills of the future

    The latest episode of PESPod, the podcast of the European Network of Public Employment Services (PES Network), explores how PES are helping jobseekers and employers prepare for the skills needed in tomorrow’s labour market.Across Europe, the triple transitions of digitalisation, demographic change and the greening of the labour market are reshaping job requirements. This episode examines how PES are responding with stronger skills intelligence, better data analysis and more responsive training programmes.In this episode, host David Poyser is joined by Sophia Cooper (Head of Training) and Gabriele Marconi (Data Scientist) from Luxembourg’s PES, ADEM (Agence pour le développement de l'emploi). Together, they discuss how ADEM are utilising data science and algorithms are used to identify and analyse skills in the Luxembourg labour market and how the outcomes are informing the design of training programmes to meet employer needs.Gabriele outlines how skills-based matching is being introduced to give a clearer picture of what jobseekers can offer and what employers need. He describes how ADEM’s algorithms extract skills from open vacancies and feed into the jobinsights.lu platform, which tracks trends across occupations and sectors. Meanwhile Sophia outlines how combining both quantitative and qualitative intelligence can shape reskilling and upskilling programmes and gives example of how ADEM are using the insights to quickly adapt to employer needs.The episode also explores the lessons learned, examples of programmes developed as a result of data insights and how PES can adopt a shift to skills-based approaches.Key topics discussed include:1. Upskilling and reskilling in a changing labour market in LuxembourgDigitalisation, the uptake of AI and wider economic shifts are driving changes across most occupations. Some IT specialisms are shrinking in while others, such as cybersecurity and data science, are expanding, highlighting the need for continuous skills development.2. Skills-based matching to better reflect labour market needsADEM is moving towards skills-based matching to improve the relevance of job recommendations. By combining occupations, qualifications and skills the PES can help jobseekers and employers identify opportunities more precisely, particularly where jobseekers have transversal skills that apply across roles or sectors.3. Data-driven tools to support skills intelligence and inform training designADEM uses algorithms to extract skills data from open vacancies and combines these insights with wider labour market information, vacancy trends and the Luxembourg shortage occupation list to support evidence-based decision making.4. Agility, collaboration and a shared mindset to support a skills-based approachA shift towards skills-based methods requires flexibility, cross-team collaboration and continuous dialogue with stakeholders and employers. Data driven approaches are most effective when combined with human insight and the ability to adapt quickly.

  2. Jan 29

    From National to Local - Finland’s TE24 Reform

    The latest episode of PESPod – the podcast of the European Network of Public Employment Services (PES Network) – focuses on Finland which has recently undergone significant structural changes. Finland’s TE Services 2024 (TE24) reform, which came into force in January 2025, transferred responsibility for public employment services from the national level to municipalities and employment areas formed by municipalities. This new PESPod episode brings listeners inside the transition and examines what the reform means for jobseekers, employers and local authorities. In the episode, host David Poyser speaks with two guests at the centre of the process. Tiina Korhonen, Director General of the Finnish Public Employment Service, outlines the national context for the reform, including recent labour market challenges and the strategic motivations for decentralising responsibility. She explains how bringing services closer to citizens, integrating employment services with education and business support, and strengthening regional vitality were core aims of the new model. Joining her is Jaakko Westerlund, Head of Employment and Integration Services at the KEHA Centre, the organisation supporting municipalities as they deliver the reformed system. He describes the role of the KEHA Centre in providing guidance, maintaining key IT platforms, supporting staff preparation ahead of the changes and ensuring that municipalities have the tools they need to deliver effective services. Throughout the discussion, both guests share early lessons from the implementation and reflect on what other PES can take from Finland’s experience. Key topics discussed include: • Labour market challenges shaped the need for reform Finland entered the reform with high unemployment, falling vacancies and rising long term joblessness. This context informed the decision to reorganise employment services and make them more responsive to local needs. • Decentralisation is intended to bring services closer to citizens The TE 24 reform transfers responsibility to municipalities and employment areas, enabling services to be tailored to regional needs and integrated with education, business support and wider municipal services. • Communication, staff preparation and coordinated support were essential for implementation Internal guidelines, information events, webinars, national campaigns and structured transition programmes supported the preparation phase. The KEHA Centre provided legal guidance, digital tools, performance monitoring and competence development to help municipalities assume new responsibilities. • Time, trust and careful sequencing are key lessons Early implementation highlighted the importance of realistic timelines, thorough planning and strong cooperation across all levels of the PES. Undertaking IT and service reform simultaneously increased complexity, reinforcing the value of phased and well-coordinated change. Further information: If you have any comments about this episode or would like to suggest future topics, write to: EMPL-PES-SECRETARIAT@ec.europa.eu. Get the latest updates from the PES Network. Get the PES Network’s latest news, events and publications on its priority topics for 2025-2026. Sign up to receive the PES Network newsletter! You can also follow the latest developments from PES Network members in the PES Network LinkedIn group. Click here to join.

  3. 11/26/2025

    Fair recruitment of third-country nationals

    The latest episode of PESPod – the podcast of the European Network of Public Employment Services (PES Network) – explores how Public Employment Services (PES) can promote fair and ethical recruitment of workers from outside the European Union. With skill shortages growing across Europe and many employers turning to third-country nationals (TCNs) to fill vacancies, this episode focuses on how PES can support recruitment that is transparent, rights-based and beneficial for both workers and employers. In this episode, host David Poyser is joined by Regina Konle-Seidl, Senior Researcher at the Institute for Employment Research (IAB) in Nuremberg, Germany, and Metka Barbo Škerbinc, Director-General of the Employment Service of Slovenia. Together, they discuss how Public Employment Services (PES) can strengthen their role as trusted intermediaries in international recruitment, working with employers, social partners and public authorities to prevent exploitation and ensure fair treatment of migrant workers. Regina and Metka also share insights from the PES Network Thematic Review Workshop on fair recruitment of third country nationals held in Ljubljana, Slovenia, in June 2025, as well as examples from various PES on how they promote fair recruitment. The episode also explores how Slovenia is applying this in practice, from validating employment contracts before work permits are issued, to organising ‘Living and Working in Slovenia’ events in nearby countries such as Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia and Serbia. Key topics discussed include: • The growing importance of fair recruitment: With skill shortages across Europe, PES are taking a more active role in ensuring ethical international recruitment. • PES as trusted intermediaries: From assessing working conditions to coordinating with labour inspectorates, PES can help guarantee fairness throughout the recruitment process. • Innovative practices from Slovenia: Bilateral cooperation with neighbouring countries and information events abroad are helping protect workers from misinformation or exploitation whilst providing comprehensive information on living conditions, rights and obligations under Slovenian legislation. • Future opportunities: How the EU Talent Pool could provide a transparent platform for international recruitment, making it easier for employers to connect with jobseekers in third countries while promoting fair working conditions. Further information: Get the PES Network’s latest news, events and publications on its priority topics for 2025-2026. Sign up (https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/empl/user-subscriptions/3294/create ) to receive the PES Network newsletter! You can also follow the latest developments from PES Network members in the PES Network LinkedIn group. Click here (https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13050888/ ) to join.

  4. 05/14/2025

    AI, Algorithms and Digital Trends

    The latest episode of PESPod – the podcast of the European Network of Public Employment Services (PES Network) - explores the impact and transformative potential of artificial intelligence (AI) on PES. In this episode, host David Poyser is joined by two guests to discuss how PES can utilise AI to enhance service delivery, improve operational efficiency, and discuss key learnings and best practices that PES can adopt when designing and implementing AI. Joining him is Dr Willem Pieterson, author of the recently published PES Network Report ‘Opportunities of AI within PES processes and services’ exploring how these technologies can enhance service delivery, improve operational efficiency, and ultimately better serve jobseekers and employers. Willem provides an overview of the current state of AI adoption within PES before discussing trends such as agentic AI (systems capable of autonomous decision-making and actions). The second guest is Andreas Henningsson, Senior Strategist and Product Area Manager for AI and Data at Arbetsförmedlingen (the Swedish PES). Andreas shares how Sweden is innovatively using AI to match jobseekers with an expanded range of vacancies they might not have previously considered, by identifying transferable skills with hard and soft competencies. For example, this method could allow a data scientist to be matched to other roles in sales, education and other sectors.

  5. 02/19/2025

    Regional Work Centres: How an innovative one-stop shop approach in the Netherlands provides better outcomes for jobseekers and employers

    The latest episode of PESPod – the podcast of the European Network of Public Employment Services (PES Network) – shines a light on the strides being made in Regional Work Centres across the Netherlands. Maarten Camps, Chair of the Board at UWV, the Social Security and Public Employment Agency of the Netherlands, shares how these new hubs could strengthen the labour market in the Netherlands. In the episode, Mr Camps delves into the efforts made by UWV to enhance collaboration between municipalities, private partners, and other key stakeholders in the labour market. While the country’s unemployment rate is at a historic low of 3.7%, there is still room to expand job participation. Regional Work Centres can play a central role by offering support to those facing challenges related to disabilities, age, or inadequate skills.

  6. 12/16/2024

    PES Network at 10 years: reflections and looking to the future with Network Chairs past and present

    PES Network at 10 years: reflections and looking to the future with Network Chairs past and present.

  7. 06/28/2024

    Behavioural Sciece- a new tool for PES?

    How behavioural science can help PES help their clients.In episode 13 of PESPod, host David Poyser speaks to Mike Keesman from the Dutch PES (UWV) and Anne-Greet Keizer, Research Fellow at the Netherlands Scientific Council for Government Policy (WRR) on how a WRR report on behavioural science has helped to improve PES performance.Anne-Greet Keizer explains how the WRR’s research highlighted the importance of understanding the “difference between what people are expected to do and what they are actually capable of.” This is not an issue of motivation or willingness, nor just a concern for vulnerable groups - anyone can find themselves unable to take appropriate action in their best interests at different moments.The topic is particularly relevant for PES since the modern labour market “makes heavy demands on people’s self-reliance” to manage increasingly complex career paths. Furthermore, people are often in contact with PES at distressing times, such as when they have lost their job.Hear from Mike Keesman about how this report helped the Dutch PES to understand that “wrong decisions or passivity are not necessarily a sign of unwillingness”. They also gave the PES a new “language to really talk about how to improve our services” and communicate with service users.How inspirational has the Dutch PES found behavioural science? More than half of all its counsellors have engaged in voluntary training on the concept. Results include improved client attendance at appointments and more people applying for jobs with better hiring prospects.Listen to this episode to find out more about the Dutch PES experience with behavioural science and how the concept can also be applied to redesigning policies and laws.If you want to contact us with ideas for interviewees, or questions you would like movers and shakers in the EU employment world to tell you about then just email us: EMPL-PES-SECRETARIAT@ec.europa.eu

  8. 06/28/2024

    Skills, Innovation and Initiatives from the Greek PES with Spiros Protopsaltis

    The Greek PES Changemaker Reflects on Challenges and Opportunities in the Labour Market The latest PESPod episode explores persistent challenges faced by PES in Europe, including skills shortages and the transformative impact of the European Year of Skills, as well as how Greece is tackling the skills challenge and fostering a fair and inclusive labour market. Spiros Protopsaltis, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Greek Public Employment Service (DYPA), provides insights and navigates through critical issues, offering solutions and discussing promising strategic initiatives. Spiros Protopsaltis underscored the transformative impact of the European Year of Skills, which runs until May 2024. He noted a surge in awareness and stresses the need for substantial investments in upskilling and reskilling programmes throughout Europe. According to him, there is an urgent need to bridge existing gaps and prepare the workforce for the demands of a rapidly changing job market. He emphasised the positive impact of the European Year of Skills in Greece, which, coupled with significant resources from the ESF and the Recovery and Resilience Facility, has allowed Greece to undertake large-scale initiatives. These include the modernisation of vocational schools and a record-breaking upskilling and reskilling programme for the unemployed. Protopsaltis points to a success story in Greece in upskilling on digital and green skills, noting this requires investment. “In one year, 220,000 unemployed persons have been trained and certified in digital or green skills. It's a massive programme funded with a billion EUR from the recovery, and it has become our flagship initiative during this past year,” he said. Protopsaltis also discussed Greece’s efforts in addressing a skills mismatch through a strategic emphasis on vocational education. He underscores the importance of aligning educational curricula with the dynamic needs of the job market to ensure a more harmonious integration of skilled people in the workforce. DYPA faces challenges as it navigates the complexities of digitalisation, impending workforce retirements, and the need to adapt to unpredictable external shocks. Protopsaltis highlights the importance of modernising PES systems to effectively address these challenges. In the podcast, Protopsaltis advocated for the enhancement of equal opportunities as a priority in workforce development. In order to achieve this, he stressed the need to provide broader access and increased mobility to address restrictions on career pathways. Protopsaltis’s insights highlight the importance of adaptability, strategic investments, and training for the PES Network. He underlined the need for attitudinal changes towards vocational education and training to address skill mismatches effectively in order to meet the labour market demands of the future. If you have any comments about this episode of PESPod or relevant topics for future episodes, write to us at: EMPL-PES-SECRETARIAT@ec.europa.eu.

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The PES podcast has the latest exciting news on the work of the Public Employment Services (PES) in the EU. The monthly podcasts are produced by the European PES Network, with the financing support of the European Union. PES experts and researchers discuss a current labour market topic for everyone with an interest in the European labour market

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