The Persuasion Game

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The Persuasion Game is a podcast about the marketing strategies, consumer insights and big ideas driving today's most interesting brands. Each episode, hosts Laura Halliday and Adam Rowles go behind the scenes with marketers and business leaders to unpack the brand, growth and category strategies shaping how companies connect with consumers and win in the modern age.

  1. What children can teach us about creativity and marketing, with Sarah Horowitz, Crayola

    2D AGO

    What children can teach us about creativity and marketing, with Sarah Horowitz, Crayola

    “The biggest thing that children show me is that there are no limits to what we can do.” In this episode of The Persuasion Game podcast, we’re taking inspiration from the creativity of children. Our guest is Sarah Horowitz, Marketing Director for the UK and Northern Europe at Crayola. Crayola is an incredibly well-established brand, and has been relevant in homes and schools for more than a century. We discuss how it’s maintaining and growing that position in a fast-changing world, how it puts creativity at the centre of everything it does, and the lessons all marketers can learn from the way children use its products. Episodes are released bi-weekly. Follow us on LinkedIn for updates. Subscribe to The Persuasion Game Newsletter on LinkedIn. Want to know more about us? Visit our website here: https://forgemsq.com This is an 18Sixty production for Forge and MSQ. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (03:21) The Role of Adults in Children's Creativity (10:42) Understanding Gen Z and Gen Alpha (16:51) Creativity Across All Ages (26:23) Embracing a Child's Perspective

    27 min
  2. The view from the C-Suite: inside PepsiCo’s insights revolution, with Stephan Gans

    FEB 3

    The view from the C-Suite: inside PepsiCo’s insights revolution, with Stephan Gans

    “You need an insights function that is really focused on being a catalyst for growth in an end-to-end way.” For many years, the insights industry has desired a ‘seat at the top table’, influencing decisions at the most senior levels of their organisations. There are few insights professionals as senior and influential to their businesses as our guest on this episode, Stephan Gans, Senior Vice President of Insights and Analytics at PepsiCo. Stephan shares the steps PepsiCo’s insights team has taken to move from order-taking to being a true catalyst for business growth, why our thirst for insights has never been greater, and the three critical roles he says insights teams must play in any future business.  We also talk about the skills that will be most valuable in the future as we enable our insights functions with AI. This is a must-listen for anyone working in insights. Episodes are released bi-weekly. Follow us on LinkedIn for updates. Subscribe to The Persuasion Game Newsletter on LinkedIn. Want to know more about us? Visit our website here: thisistheforge.com This is an 18Sixty production for The Forge. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (04:13) A Unified Approach (07:55) Balancing Short-term and Long-term Goals (14:12) The Role of AI in Insights (19:42) Future Skills for Insights Professionals

    31 min
  3. Our take on marketing, strategy and insights in 2026

    JAN 20

    Our take on marketing, strategy and insights in 2026

    The tables have been turned in this episode of The Persuasion Game podcast, as Adam and Laura get a taste of their own medicine in the hot seat. Izzie Macdonald, Global Cultural Insights Capability Lead at PepsiCo, takes on the role of host. Izzie has years of research and insights experience at Touchstone Partners and with almost a decade under her belt at Pepsi. Adam and Laura give their views on where marketing, strategy and insights might be heading in 2026, and the adaptations that will be needed to get us there. They also reveal their New Year resolutions, both professional and personal, for the year ahead. Episodes are released bi-weekly. Follow us on LinkedIn for updates. Subscribe to The Persuasion Game Newsletter on LinkedIn. Want to know more about us? Visit our website here: thisistheforge.com This is an 18Sixty production for The Forge. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (02:08) Career Journeys in Marketing and Strategy (09:27) The Future of Agency Models (15:48) The Role of AI in Innovation (23:26) Importance of Context in Client Partnerships

    27 min
  4. Why ambition will help us be better marketers in 2026, with Sophie Devonshire, CEO, The Marketing Society

    JAN 6

    Why ambition will help us be better marketers in 2026, with Sophie Devonshire, CEO, The Marketing Society

    Ambition is the watchword for The Marketing Society in 2026: “Ambition for our businesses, our careers and our country.” In this episode of The Persuasion Game podcast, we welcome Sophie Devonshire, CEO of The Marketing Society, for a conversation not to be missed by anyone working in marketing who has ambitions for a great year in 2026. We discuss the growing role of CMOs, why leading marketing teams is more like rugby than football, and why we all need to make more time for learning. Sophie also shares her views on why personal ambition isn’t about “killing yourself at work”, but should focus on how it fits in with the rest of your life goals. Sophie spent years working in marketing roles at Procter & Gamble, Coca Cola and agency side, before becoming a CEO and published author. Reading list: “Superfast, Lead at Speed” by Sophie Devonshire https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superfast-Lead-speed-Sophie-Devonshire/dp/1473661862 “Drive” by Dan Pink https://www.amazon.co.uk/Drive-Daniel-H-Pink/dp/184767769X “It's Not How Good You Are, It's How Good You Want to Be” by Paul Arden https://www.amazon.co.uk/Its-Not-How-Good-Want/dp/0714843377 "The Whole Marketer" by Abby Dixon https://www.amazon.co.uk/Whole-Marketer-successful-fulfilled-marketer/dp/1911671057 CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (01:01) Defining Ambition for 2026 (04:13) Global Perspectives on Ambition (09:57) Building Ambitious Foundations (14:20) The Role of Technology and Human Connection

    29 min
  5. 2025’s Christmas Ads: Which ones will drive sales?

    12/16/2025

    2025’s Christmas Ads: Which ones will drive sales?

    “It might not necessarily be the most emotional response ad, but I think it will be one of the most effective.” In this festive episode of The Persuasion Game, Media Effectiveness Expert, Matt Stockbridge helps us unpick the effectiveness of the Christmas adverts in 2025. From John Lewis telling the story of a teenage son connecting with his father, to JD Sports’ user-generated clip sequences, major brands have taken different approaches in 2025. The question is: which will be most effective when it comes to sales? Matt is perfectly placed to help us answer that question, having previously worked on brands including Danone, Cadbury and Innocent. He talks about the need to grab people’s attention, the art of product placement and the power of generating an emotional response. From everyone at The Forge, Merry Christmas and see you in the New Year! CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (05:45) Sainsbury’s: https://youtu.be/QaF1my5h-Os?si=vb5FgcseZ56KCtWU (10:15) John Lewis: https://youtu.be/dc5S4IV_NeA?si=1MIyrA2xCBRvQnYl (18:49) Marks and Spencer: https://youtu.be/EWGYQL0KMoI?si=pCGDrAY8v4pDChZ4 (22:43) Waitrose: https://youtu.be/wWeYKBXmCRs?si=UZHjSlbrsMn4JVfv (24:09) JD Sports: https://youtu.be/aCsvYgOcXz4?si=vpGgsDLHkzWEtGGU

    30 min
  6. Unlock huge brand growth using behavioural science, with Richard Shotton

    12/02/2025

    Unlock huge brand growth using behavioural science, with Richard Shotton

    “Behavioural science is the most relevant field out there for a marketer. If you are in marketing, you are in the business of behaviour change.” Our guest on this episode of The Persuasion Game podcast is Richard Shotton, a behavioural science expert and author of The Choice Factory and Hacking the Human Mind. Richard shares some of the principles of behavioural science and how they can be used marketing teams to grow their brands. He has an incredible wealth of knowledge and enough real-world examples to fill a book (or three). Among them, how Monzo and Aperol use ‘social proof’, how Kraft understood the say-do gap and how ‘making it easy’ can transform a brand’s fortunes. Hacking the Human Mind: https://www.waterstones.com/book/hacking-the-human-mind/michaelaaron-flicker/richard-shotton/9781804091326 The Choice Factory & The Illusion of Choice  https://www.astroten.co.uk/the-choice-factory  Richard’s newsletter: https://astroten.us19.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6ad73155a84f0c05285e72212&id=4a2da629fc  Episodes are released bi-weekly. Follow us on LinkedIn for updates. Subscribe to The Persuasion Game Newsletter on LinkedIn. Want to know more about us? Visit our website here: thisistheforge.com This is an 18Sixty production for The Forge. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (02:03) The Power of Making Things Easy (07:48) Social Proof and Its Impact (13:09) The Say-Do Gap (19:20) AI and Behavioural Science

    29 min
  7. Rebranding an icon, with Chris Willingham, CMO, Brompton Bicycle

    11/18/2025

    Rebranding an icon, with Chris Willingham, CMO, Brompton Bicycle

    “It’s about understanding what people actually want to engage with. 99% of people aren't interested in your brand for most of their waking lives.” Our guest on this episode of The Persuasion Game podcast is Chris Willingham, Chief Marketing Office at Brompton Bicycles. Chris has had a remarkable career, previously working on accounts including Playstation, Sony Electronics, and Cadbury. Now at the iconic Brompton, he is leading the company through a brand refresh, aimed at talking to a younger, more diverse, and more global audience. And it’s doing it by harnessing the love of the brand that exists among its current customer base. Chris says the ‘Life Unfolded’ campaign marks a shift from talking about the impressive engineering of the bikes and focussing instead on the customer benefits - something that resonates in most markets around the world. He talks about the power of emotions, being authentic, and his dream of manufacturing the first genuine Back to the Future style hoverboards. Brompton - Life Unfolded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqRybgafMBc Episodes are released bi-weekly. Follow us on LinkedIn for updates. Subscribe to The Persuasion Game Newsletter on LinkedIn. Want to know more about us? Visit our website here: thisistheforge.com This is an 18Sixty production for The Forge. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (04:24) The Brompton Brand: A Global Perspective (07:54) Engaging the Brompton Community (12:15) Balancing Functional and Emotional Benefits (21:58) Urban Mobility and Future Innovations (23:56) The Power of Purpose

    29 min
  8. How a film transformed Johnnie Walker’s prospects, with Steve White, Diageo

    11/04/2025

    How a film transformed Johnnie Walker’s prospects, with Steve White, Diageo

    Our guest on this episode of The Persuasion Game podcast is Stephen White, Senior Vice President, North America at Diageo. He is an expert in transforming teams, brands, innovation pipelines and businesses and has spent years working in different markets, all around the world, doing just that. Stephen shares stories and learnings from across his 20+ years leading teams at Diageo including: brand turnarounds; managing global and local dynamics; and transforming underperforming teams. One example Stephen shares is how a short film starring Robert Carlyle helped reframe the iconic whisky brand Johnnie Walker “we spent the amount of money we would've spent on an external film, on an internal audience, we then subsequently had 9-10 years of consistent growth.” Johnnie Walker “The Man Who Walked Around the World”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ6aiVg2qVk Episodes are released bi-weekly. Follow us on LinkedIn for updates. Subscribe to The Persuasion Game Newsletter on LinkedIn. Want to know more about us? Visit our website here: thisistheforge.com This is an 18Sixty production for The Forge. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (03:00) Key Innovations at Diageo (09:32) Building Trust and Empathy (14:29) Breaking Down Organisational Silos (20:31) Leveraging AI and Future Trends

    29 min
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The Persuasion Game is a podcast about the marketing strategies, consumer insights and big ideas driving today's most interesting brands. Each episode, hosts Laura Halliday and Adam Rowles go behind the scenes with marketers and business leaders to unpack the brand, growth and category strategies shaping how companies connect with consumers and win in the modern age.

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  • Creator
    Forge
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    37
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    © Forge, 2026
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