Go-To-Market Lab

Kathleen Randall

Welcome to "Go-To-Market Lab," the podcast for startup founders and business leaders mastering go-to-market strategy. Hosted by Kathleen Randall, an expert in B2B SaaS, risk management, and cybersecurity, this show helps you define the right customer profile, create impactful messaging, optimize pricing, and more. Join us for insightful interviews, practical advice, and real-world examples to elevate your business and drive growth. Whether you're at $10M or aiming for $100M, this podcast is your go-to resource for market success.

  1. How We Get Leads From OpenAI (And Grew 200% YoY At Seed Stage) with Russell Spitler

    07/17/2025

    How We Get Leads From OpenAI (And Grew 200% YoY At Seed Stage) with Russell Spitler

    Funding is tight and the B2B tech market is noisy. Founders are pressured to find product-market fit before the runway runs out, often with limited data. What if you could de-risk your launch by validating your market before your product is ready? In this masterclass, Nudge Security CEO and Co-Founder, Russell Spitler, pulls back the curtain on his counter-intuitive strategies. He shares his exact playbook for testing a go-to-market motion on a lean budget, revealing how to refine your messaging and identify your ideal customer profile with just a few thousand dollars in ad spend. This is a practical guide for building a resilient, customer-centric brand from day one. 🎯 KEY EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: The Employee-Driven Security Gap You're Ignoring [01:51]:"As soon as employees start using the internet, all perimeter-based and asset-based controls just start to fall apart...All of those incremental decisions build into a substantial risk factor for organizations."Offering a critical insight for any B2B founder, Russell explains why the biggest security threats often come from everyday employee actions, creating a massive, often overlooked, vulnerability that most traditional solutions miss. Validating Your Market Before Your Product Is Ready [10:43]:"’I know there's a problem. I know there's an audience...But can I reach other people that are like that through traditional digital marketing channels and effectively get them to engage with me with the messaging out there?’ And that led to a lot of refinement in terms of how we talked about the problem, who we were focusing on, what channels we'd use to actually engage that prospective audience."Discover how Nudge Security used early, low-cost ad campaigns not to generate leads, but to gather priceless data that shaped their entire go-to-market strategy, saving them from costly mistakes down the line. The "Discover Why" Sales Mindset [38:23]:"The number one thing is curiosity, it's like they took the call for some reason. You’ve got to discover why...You're not here to tell them something. You're here to learn from them during that sales process."In this game-changing perspective, Russell reveals how shifting from a "pitching" mindset to a "discovery" mindset transforms the sales conversation and builds the trust necessary to close deals. CHAPTERS: [00:00] - Intro[00:51] - Russell Spitler, CEO of Nudge Security[01:16] - Russell's Background and Journey as a B2B Tech Startup Founder[04:35] - Nudge Security's Current Status and Market Position[05:35] - The Evolving Landscape of VC Funding for Startups[09:17] - The Importance of Early Go-to-Market Testing[13:04] - Budgeting and Strategies for Early Ad Campaigns[17:08] - Differentiating Product-Market Fit and Product-Sales Fit[19:12] - Lessons Learned and Hindsight in B2B Tech Startups[25:25] - The Role of Educational Content in Brand Building[30:59] - Preparing for the CEO Role in a Startup Environment[35:38] - Advice for Founders on Developing Sales Skills[38:50] - Rapid Fire Q&A with Russell Spitler 🔗CONNECT WITH RUSSELL SPITLER: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russell-spitler/ Website: nudgesecurity.com 🔗 CONNECT WITH THE GO-TO-MARKET LAB: Kathleen Lim Randall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenlimrandall/ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheGo-to-MarketLab-x3f #FounderLedSales #ProductMarketFit #EarlyStageStartup

    44 min
  2. Q2 2025 - B2B Tech Startup Series A Fundraising Climate Read-Out

    06/26/2025

    Q2 2025 - B2B Tech Startup Series A Fundraising Climate Read-Out

    Is your B2B tech startup ready for the brutal honesty of today's funding climate? The path to securing investment, especially from Seed to Series C, has dramatically shifted. Many founders are finding that what worked even a few years ago simply won't cut it now. Investors are more selective, due diligence is intense, and the goalposts for revenue and growth have moved significantly. But here’s the thing, this challenging environment reveals a massive opportunity for those willing to adapt. The true competitive advantage is no longer solely about your innovative tech, it’s about how you bring that tech to market. A deeply considered, realistic, and agile go-to-market strategy isn't just important; it's everything - the difference between burning through cash with little to show and building a sustainable, fundable business. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Why Go-To-Market Strategy Is Mission-Critical for Startups 01:10 - VC Funding Drops and Selectivity Increases in 2025 01:52 - Raising Series A Now Requires $2M ARR and 3x Growth 02:11 - Fundraising Timelines Are Stretching to Nearly 3 Years 03:26 - AI Leads Investment, But Most Startups Face Capital Constraints 04:11 - Investors Now Demand Strong GTM Metrics and Capital Efficiency 04:25 - GTM Strategy Is the New Competitive Advantage 05:27 - Misaligned ICPs and Unrealistic Budgets Derail GTM Execution 06:55 - Cold Outreach and Deal Cycles Can Take Up to 15 Months 08:07 - VCs Aren’t Your GTM Coach - It’s On You to Get It Right 🔗 CONNECT WITH THE GO-TO-MARKET LAB: Kathleen Lim Randall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenlimrandall/ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheGo-to-MarketLab-x3f #B2BTech #GoToMarket #StartupFunding

    10 min
  3. My Guest, ChatGPT, Helps me Pre-Game for a Sales Call

    06/19/2025

    My Guest, ChatGPT, Helps me Pre-Game for a Sales Call

    Discover a completely new way to sharpen your go-to-market messaging today as Kathleen invites 'Jordan,' an OpenAI voice assistant, to workshop a real-world elevator pitch for a highly technical B2B product. This isn't just theory. It's a live, unscripted masterclass in transforming dense technical jargon into a compelling, value-driven message that resonates with C-level buyers.Founders with brilliant products often get stuck in the technical weeds, failing to communicate the real business impact. Today’s episode reveals how to use AI as a sparring partner to anticipate objections, tailor your pitch to different personas like a CISO, and find the core value that actually captures attention. Without this clarity, even the best products can fail to connect with the market.BIGGEST TAKEAWAY[10:35]:"The core of an account-based marketing approach is that you are using that information about the account, about even about the person, to really make how you explain your value and your offering in a way that is pertinent to that person... that is going to be the key."It’s not just about crafting one good pitch; it’s about understanding that tailoring your value proposition to a specific buyer's context is the foundation of any successful account-based marketing strategy - and that AI can play a critical role throughout!CHAPTERS:00:00 - Introducing AI Voice as a Go-to-Market Co-Host01:05 - How to Pitch Complex B2B Tech Products Simply03:21 - AI Identity Management, Pitch Example and Value Framing05:01 - Addressing CISO Objections and Competitor Landscape06:41 - Human-AI Collaboration for Sales Strategy Development09:23 - Tailoring Elevator Pitches for Different Enterprise Personas11:02 - Go-to-Market Success Depends on Team Agility and Execution🔗 CONNECT WITH THE GO-TO-MARKET LAB:Kathleen Lim Randall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenlimrandall/Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheGo-to-MarketLab-x3f#GoToMarket #ElevatorPitch #AIinMarketing

    12 min
  4. Turn Intro Calls into Qualified Deals in 5 Min

    06/05/2025

    Turn Intro Calls into Qualified Deals in 5 Min

    Feeling the pressure before a big sales call, knowing that good preparation is vital but time is always scarce? So many B2B professionals jump into crucial conversations without the deep insights that make a real difference. Often they miss the mark because they haven't truly understood the prospect's world. This common pitfall of inadequate prep can cost you deals before you even say hello. But what if you could transform your sales call preparation using AI? What if you could go from overwhelmed to over-prepared in minutes? Today’s episode reveals how to leverage tools like ChatGPT to ask smarter questions and build credibility fast so that, ultimately, you can make the most of every single interaction with potential customers. Learn how to master your sales call prep in under five minutes here today in this live, step-by-step demonstration. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [01:05]:"...the best interviewers really do ask these questions that are deeper questions. They come in prepared and they ask questions that are not face value. And as a result you're going to get deeper answers in a faster, more efficient way and take advantage of that precious time you have with a prospect or a lead or potential customer." KEY EPISODE TAKEAWAYS:🧠 BUILD YOUR INTERNAL AI KNOWLEDGE HUB [03:36]:"If you're a company that's not at least starting to train your own GPT as really your live Wiki and live internal help desk, then in my opinion you're losing out."Ignoring internal AI development means missing out on a powerful efficiency driver. Discover how training your own GPT can transform your company's knowledge into an instant, accessible resource and support system. Don't let your organization fall behind 🚀 🛠️ AI IS A TOOL, NOT AN ORACLE [18:05]:"And so I'm going to catch it and say, ‘I'm with Cortex Cloud, not with Archer. Can you make sure the questions are aligned to what Palo Alto and Cortex Cloud does?’"Don't blindly trust initial AI output! This segment demonstrates the crucial step of guiding and correcting your AI. Ensure the information and generated questions are perfectly aligned with your specific product and prospect scenario. Steer your AI to laser-focused accuracy! 🧭CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Why Founders Must Prepare for Sales Calls 00:39 - How to Research a Prospect in Under 5 Minutes 02:05 - Using ChatGPT to Prep for Enterprise Sales 04:02 - Structuring a High-Impact First Meeting With a CISO 07:01 - Crafting Smart Discovery Questions With AI 09:38 - Mapping Platform Features to Buyer Pain Points 11:06 - Writing Personalized Elevator Pitches With GPT 13:52 - Real-Time Demo: Selling Prisma Cloud to a CISO 17:14 - Personalizing AI Prompts for Better Sales Alignment 22:44 - Turning Research Into Downloadable Sales Briefs 24:12 - Why Every Meeting Deserves Your Best Prep 🔗 CONNECT WITH THE GO-TO-MARKET LAB:Kathleen Lim Randall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenlimrandall/ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheGo-to-MarketLab-x3f #SalesPrep #AIforSales #ChatGPT

    27 min
  5. 05/22/2025

    The Key To Scaling Founder-Led Sales with Jason McKarge

    The Key To Scaling Founder-Led Sales Feeling the friction shifting from founder-led sales to a scalable team? Many founders excel at selling their vision initially, understanding the Go To Market blend of product, marketing, and sales. But the common "ick" factor associated with traditional selling and the difficulty in bottling founder passion often creates hesitation when building a dedicated sales function. This reluctance to systematize, however, leads to stalled growth and missed potential. You need a repeatable process focused on customer value, not just product features. Learn how to bridge this gap as value selling expert Jason McKarge joins the Go To Market Lab to unpack the critical mindset shifts and practical skills needed to transform your sales approach from founder intuition to a high-performing, scalable engine. He reveals why focusing on the customer's problems is the true acceleration point for growth. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [9:53]: "Sellers need to get really good really quickly at what are the problems we solve uniquely or better than alternatives in the market and making that connection... Helping the customer understand that connection or that linkage, that's the acceleration point." KEY EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: ✨ GROWTH ACCELERATOR [15:22]:"Value selling allows us to quickly orient to the other side of the table... And because of its simplicity, it's adaptable."See how this straightforward, customer-centric approach is easily adopted by growing teams, helping you scale the founder's sales effectiveness into a repeatable engine. Game-changing insight 🎯 ⚠️ CRITICAL MISTAKE [27:30]:"If you miss a line on one critical area [by assuming], rapport's out the window for the most part."Stop guessing and start asking! Learn why assumptions kill deals faster than anything else and how to avoid this common trap that destroys trust instantly. Must-watch segment 👀 ⚡ ESSENTIAL SKILL [32:05]:"It's about preparation... technology has allowed us to be better prepared. Shame on you for not doing that part. And then... it's listening, it's asking follow up questions..."Master the non-negotiables for effective sales calls. Discover why preparation is crucial (and easier than ever) and how active listening truly helps you understand client needs. Save this timestamp 🔖 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Why Sales Should Be Treated Like a Science and a Craft 02:21 - Value Selling Expert Jason McKarge 04:51 - Defining Today’s Episode Agenda and Focus on Value Selling 08:59 - How to Scale from Founder-Led Sales to a Revenue Team 10:32 - The Secret to Selling: Solving Real Customer Problems 11:18 - Turning Feature Dumps into True Value Statements 14:20 - Why Value Selling Wins Over Other Sales Methodologies 16:47 - The Role of Active Listening and Two-Way Communication in Sales 18:43 - How B2B Sales Complexity is Changing with Smarter Buyers 21:32 - How to Prep for a Call Without Burning Time 23:46 - How to Ask Better Sales Questions That Build Trust 27:09 - Top Mistakes Sellers Make After the First Call 32:01 - The Two Skills That Instantly Elevate Sales Performance 35:04 - Mindset Shift: From Talking About You to Helping Them 38:33 - Jason’s Ideal Way to Spend Four Free Hours 39:13 - The Coolest Use of GPT 40:56 - Jason’s Biggest Career Lesson 🔗 CONNECT WITH JASON: Visualize Website: https://visualize.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-mckarge-b6b3a35/ #ValueSelling #FounderLedSales #B2BSales

    44 min
  6. How To Sell As a Founder (Even If You're Not 'Salesy')

    01/09/2025

    How To Sell As a Founder (Even If You're Not 'Salesy')

    You’ve poured your heart and soul into building your SaaS product, and now it’s time to get it into the hands of customers. But if the thought of “selling” makes you cringe, you’re not alone. Many founders, especially those with technical backgrounds, find the sales process daunting. This episode of the Go-To-Market Lab features Jim Wilson from Costanoa Ventures, a seasoned expert in guiding early-stage founders through the crucial stages of sales. Jim draws on his extensive experience as an operator and venture capitalist to provide a practical checklist for founders, diving deep into the essentials of discovery, qualification, crafting compelling pitches and demos, and navigating the often-murky waters of early-stage pricing. Forget the stereotypical “salesy” tactics. Jim emphasizes building a repeatable sales playbook from day one, not just for attracting investors, but also for effectively training your first sales hires. He highlights the critical components of this playbook, from defining your ideal customer profile and buyer personas to mastering discovery questions that foster genuine connection. Learn how to transform initial conversations into valuable insights, moving beyond one-sided pitches to understand your customer's needs and demonstrate how your solution truly fits. This episode provides actionable strategies to empower founders to become confident and effective sellers, focusing on genuine engagement and value delivery rather than pushy techniques. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [00:06:38]: "For founders, you need to start thinking about [building a repeatable sales playbook] from day one. And you need to do that for two reasons. One, investors, when you raise your second round of funding are going to want to know, do you have a repeatable sales process that I can invest in? The second reason you want to have a repeatable sales process is because when you eventually hire your first salesperson or you expand your sales team, you need to teach them something." Discover the foundational elements of a winning sales strategy as Jim unpacks the essential building blocks for founders. 🎯 EPISODE GOLD [00:04:34]: "Founder sales is talked about a lot, but I think very few people articulate what it really means." Jim shares his unique perspective on what truly constitutes "founder sales" and why it's critical for early-stage success. This changes everything about how you approach your initial customer interactions because it shifts the focus from polished salesmanship to genuine problem-solving. 🔑 BREAKTHROUGH MOMENT [00:12:31]: Tired of one-sided sales calls where you do all the talking? "[You want to] set up a cadence where it's a two way conversation... have three to five key discovery questions and have a thesis on how those answers map to your ideal customer profile." Watch as Jim reveals how to transform your initial customer meetings into valuable discovery sessions without feeling like you're interrogating them. Don't miss this part ⏰. 💡 FRAMEWORK REVEAL [00:24:05]: The Key to Simple Pricing: • Treat pricing like a first-class feature. • Keep it simple for easy explanation. • Focus on packaging that aligns with value. Watch this part to understand how simplifying your pricing can significantly reduce friction and accelerate early deals. Save this timestamp 🔖. 🔗 CONNECT WITH JIM: • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimwilsoncostanoa/ #FounderSales #SaaSSales #GoToMarketStrategy #EarlyStageStartup #SalesProcess

    37 min
  7. The 6 Questions Every Startup Founder Should Ask About Outbound Sales

    12/05/2024

    The 6 Questions Every Startup Founder Should Ask About Outbound Sales

    You've launched your startup, secured funding, and developed a great product. However, generating leads and hitting those initial sales targets seems daunting without case studies or inbound marketing success. Fear not - Brittany Wardlow, Head Of Business Development at Instil, is here today to offer actionable strategies, tool recommendations, and real-world examples to help you break through those outbound sales challenges. Tune in now and you will learn how to master outbound sales, connect with your ideal customers, and rapidly accelerate revenue growth by answering just 6 key questions. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [44:19]: "When you get laser focused, you will find more success. You're going to reach out to less people, but you're going to have the right conversations with the right people and it's going to accelerate your business." Learn how to identify and connect with the perfect prospects to drive faster growth even in a crowded market. ⚠️ WAKE-UP CALL [10:30]: "Attracting talent and the right talent is like step one. Because if you have a bad hire and you only have one seat, you're screwed." Don't underestimate the importance of hiring the right sales talent from the start and the devastating impact of a bad hire on a startup's trajectory. ✨ GROWTH OPPORTUNITY [26:36]: "My colleague got 18 meetings in a month...We have officially closed one deal [and] have three really big enterprise deals in our pipeline just from when we started using this tool." Discover how leveraging AI-powered prospecting tools can significantly boost your meeting generation and pipeline growth, even in competitive enterprise markets. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Is the Startup Truly Ready for Outbound Sales Motions? 13:02 - What's the Best Initial Sales Team Structure and Profile for This Stage? 23:46 - What Outbound Strategies and Tactics Should Be Prioritized? 31:22 - How Should These Outbound Efforts Be Measured and Adjusted? 35:37 - What Sales Technology Stack is Appropriate for a Startup with Limited Resources? 40:45- How Can a Startup with a Limited Network Initiate Outbound Effectively? 🔗 CONNECT WITH BRITTANY WARDLOW: • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittany-wardlow-60982822/ #startupsales #salestools #leadgeneration

    49 min

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Welcome to "Go-To-Market Lab," the podcast for startup founders and business leaders mastering go-to-market strategy. Hosted by Kathleen Randall, an expert in B2B SaaS, risk management, and cybersecurity, this show helps you define the right customer profile, create impactful messaging, optimize pricing, and more. Join us for insightful interviews, practical advice, and real-world examples to elevate your business and drive growth. Whether you're at $10M or aiming for $100M, this podcast is your go-to resource for market success.