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WELCOME TO DRUMBEATS Drumbeats is the must-listen podcast for investors interested in Indigenous investment in Canada. Born from the Canadian Indigenous Investment Summit, the show focuses on the nexus of Indigenous economic strategies and investment opportunities. Hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant, co-chairs of the Summit, lead engaging interviews and expert analyses that explore how these crucial conversations impact economic development within Indigenous communities and beyond.

  1. $200M Indigenous Growth Strategy: Scaling Beyond Oil Sands with Nicole Bourque-Bouchier

    6D AGO

    $200M Indigenous Growth Strategy: Scaling Beyond Oil Sands with Nicole Bourque-Bouchier

    Canada Indigenous business growth, oil sands investment opportunities, and Truth and Reconciliation economic impact explained by Nicole Bourque, CEO of Bouchier Group. UK and European investors gain insight into how a $200M Indigenous-owned industrial company is scaling, winning ExxonMobil recognition, and building institutional-grade growth platforms. Part 2 explores how Canada’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission became an unexpected catalyst for Indigenous business competitiveness, unlocking new commercial pathways for Indigenous-owned companies operating at scale. In this continuation of our conversation, Nicole discusses Bouchier's transformation: • Nicole explains how Bouchier Group integrated Indigenous identity with operational excellence. • Nicole reveals why her company achieved 25% growth in peak years and why she's now deliberately slowing to 5% growth at the $200 million threshold to explore diversification beyond oil sands. • What international investors misunderstand about Indigenous partnerships in Canada’s resource economy. An Indigenous female CEO whose company proves Indigenous-led businesses succeed on merit, alliances, and good partnerships. ABOUT NICOLE BOURQUE: Nicole Bourque serves as CEO and Co-owner of The Bouchier Group, one of Canada's largest Indigenous-owned companies with $200+ million annual revenues, 1,400 employees from nearly 100 First Nations, and major contracts with CNRL, Imperial Oil, Suncor Energy. Recent recognition: December 2024 Member of the Order of Canada, December 2024 ExxonMobil International Diverse Supplier Award CHAPTERS 00:00 - Why UK and European investors are re-evaluating Indigenous partnerships in Canada 00:13 - Scaling a $200M Indigenous-owned industrial services company in Canada’s oil sands 00:45 - Canada’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission as a catalyst for institutional investment 01:48 - Indigenous culture, ESG, and operating in Canada’s energy and infrastructure sectors 04:50 - Competing on commercial merit: Indigenous enterprises and global capital expectations 08:53 - ExxonMobil’s global supplier award and what it signals to international investors 10:39 - Diversification beyond Alberta: national expansion and infrastructure opportunities 12:29 - Governance, systems, and capital discipline to scale from $200M to $400M 19:03 - What UK and European investors misunderstand about Indigenous partnerships 20:15 - Lessons from a UK minority investment partnership and institutional governance 30:43 - How international investors should engage Indigenous communities in Canada 33:45 - Relationship-led capitalism as Canada’s strategic advantage in global markets

    36 min
  2. From $250K Loss to $200M Revenue: How Nicole Bourque-Bouchier Scaled Her Indigenous Business

    FEB 12

    From $250K Loss to $200M Revenue: How Nicole Bourque-Bouchier Scaled Her Indigenous Business

    In this first part of our conversation, Nicole Bourque-Bouchier walks through a story that starts with checking her company's first year-end financials on her honeymoon. After the hardest working year of her life, she scrolled to the bottom line: minus $250,000. That was 2005. Bouchier just closed 2025 at $200 million. Nicole is CEO of Bouchier, one of Canada's largest privately-owned Indigenous companies in Alberta's oil sands. She's Mikisew Cree, raised on the trapline before her father took a Syncrude job and moved the family to Fort McMurray. She worked through Syncrude, ran her own consulting business, then joined Shell - where she met David, who had a small contracting operation on the side. In 2004, they both quit their corporate jobs and went all in. Nicole admits she "didn't know what a dozer or excavator was" when she started. Everything about running this business, she taught herself. In this episode, Nicole explains: $250,000 first-year loss to $200 million, what financial discipline actually looks like Fort McKay First Nation, Finning Canada, Alberta Treasury Branch extended payment terms - still partners decades later 28-year relationships with CNRL, Suncor, Imperial Oil, how partnership economics drives client retention Self-taught CEO scaling three divisions with zero business training 99 Indigenous communities, 39% Indigenous workforce, 41% Indigenous leadership Seven Sacred Teachings in daily operations - values as performance framework $12 million community investment, zero-default performance record In December 2024, Nicole received the Order of Canada and ExxonMobil's International Diverse Supplier Award - validation that relationship-based Indigenous business models deliver sustained client retention and performance through cycles. ABOUT NICOLE BOURQUE-BOUCHIER: Nicole Bourque-Bouchier serves as CEO and Co-owner of Bouchier, one of Canada's largest Indigenous-owned companies with $200+ million annual revenues, 1,400 employees from nearly 100 First Nations, and major contracts with CNRL, Imperial Oil, Suncor Energy. Recent recognition: December 2024 Member of the Order of Canada, December 2024 ExxonMobil International Diverse Supplier Award CHAPTERS 00:00 - Why Indigenous partnerships are central to Canadian natural resource and infrastructure investment 00:12 - Building one of Canada’s largest Indigenous-owned companies in the oil sands 00:51 - Global recognition: Order of Canada and ExxonMobil’s international supplier award 02:49 - Understanding Canada’s oil sands geography for UK and European investors 03:17 - Indigenous land stewardship, traditional economies, and modern resource development 07:48 - Education, oil sands entry, and early engagement between industry and First Nations 10:32 - From side business to full commitment: entrepreneurial risk in capital-intensive sectors 12:21 - Winter roads, exploration logistics, and how oil sands projects are actually built 14:25 - Long-term contracts, zero-default performance, and operational credibility 17:03 - Scaling to $200M revenue with Indigenous leadership and workforce participation 18:59 - First-year losses, capital discipline, and financial resilience 21:04 - Governance lessons every entrepreneur and investor must learn early 23:10 - Strategic partners, banks, and suppliers who enable Indigenous enterprise growth 25:35 - Expansion beyond oil sands: facility maintenance, infrastructure, and national growth 27:21 - Embedding Indigenous values into corporate culture and operational performance

    30 min
  3. Jeffery Cyr on Outcomes Funds: Impact With Global Capital Now Paying Attention

    FEB 5

    Jeffery Cyr on Outcomes Funds: Impact With Global Capital Now Paying Attention

    This episode breaks down Indigenous investment, global capital markets, outcomes financing and where the next wave of Indigenous-led impact is heading. 🎧 Jeff Cyr: Founder & Managing Partner, Raven Indigenous Outcomes Funds; CEO, Raven Indigenous Impact Foundation, returns to explain how outcomes-based financing is scaling across Canada and capturing international investment attention. In Part Two, Jeff goes deeper into how Raven’s model differs from other outcomes funds in the UK, US and Australia—centering community decision-making, prioritizing Indigenous leadership on every project, and designing investments that deliver both measurable societal benefit and fair investor returns. You’ll hear how Raven’s model is: Reshaping the perception of Indigenous economies Structuring returns that look and feel like fixed-income products Attracting capital from Switzerland, Germany and the United States Scaling impact by running multiple $5–$10M investments rather than chasing mega-projects Working with governments to shift how public dollars are deployed Jeff also shares what’s coming next: A national pipeline of First Nations projects, partnerships with governments seeking to accelerate outcomes rather than react to crisis, and a growing international awareness that Indigenous-led funds are delivering both impact and market returns. Whether you’re an investor, policymaker, development leader or a member of an Indigenous community exploring capital partnerships, Part Two shows the scale of what’s possible—and why Indigenous leadership is shaping Canada’s most exciting economic opportunities.

    27 min
  4. Indigenous Outcomes Investing: Jeff Cyr’s $50M Fund, Fast Deployment & Investor Returns

    JAN 29

    Indigenous Outcomes Investing: Jeff Cyr’s $50M Fund, Fast Deployment & Investor Returns

    OUTCOMES FINANCE | INDIGENOUS INVESTMENT | COMMUNITY CAPITAL This episode breaks down how Indigenous communities are accelerating infrastructure, financing clean energy, and reshaping the investment landscape through outcomes-based financing. Guest: Jeffrey Cyr, Founder & Managing Partner, Raven Indigenous Outcomes Funds. How do Indigenous Nations deploy housing, energy, and infrastructure faster while delivering investor returns and community impact? Jeffrey Cyr, Founder and Managing Partner of Raven Indigenous Outcomes Funds, breaks down how outcomes-based financing moves projects out of government bottlenecks, channels capital directly into communities, creates measurable public savings, and repays investors from those savings with verified returns. Jeffrey has spent 20+ years advancing self-determination from negotiating land rights to designing policy systems, leading the National Association of Friendship Centres, and launching the first globally Indigenous-led VC firm. In this episode, Jeffrey explains: How outcomes contracts pool federal and provincial programs into scalable capital pipelinesWhy blended finance unlocks projects that foundations, private equity, or governments can’t fund aloneHow Raven structures returns (4–7%) while keeping wealth inside communitiesHow geothermal and solar projects lower housing costs, cut emissions, and keep skilled jobs localWhy Canada has become a global leader in Indigenous economic developmentWhere the next wave of investable projects will emerge housing, clean energy, health, diabetes reduction, and workforce developmentYou’ll learn why outcomes financing is more than a funding model it’s a tool for redistributing power, capital, and decision-making back to Indigenous communities. Whether you’re an Indigenous leader, policy-maker, or investor exploring Canada, the UK, the U.S., or Europe, this episode reveals how First Nations, Inuit and Métis communities are moving from surviving to thriving and what opportunities exist for aligned capital.

    27 min
  5. First Nation Partnerships in the Nuclear Supply Chain Represent a Huge Opportunity

    JAN 22

    First Nation Partnerships in the Nuclear Supply Chain Represent a Huge Opportunity

    This episode breaks down Indigenous investment strategy in Saskatchewan’s critical minerals and nuclear sector—including uranium, small modular reactors (SMRs), and Nation-owned economic development models. We explore how First Nations are securing supply chain opportunities in the mining sector, pursuing a diversified investment. Saskatchewan holds 20% of the world’s known uranium reserves and the province’s new focus of also on deploying small modular reactor is creating new opportunities in the nuclear supply chain for Indigenous-led economic development organizations. Our guest Alex Fallon, CEO of Birch Narrows Dene Nation Development Inc., explains how First Nations are partnering with mining companies like NexGen through Mutual Benefit Agreements to create investment and employment opportunities.. Alex brings a rare threefold perspective: A Saskatchewan mining sector focus with his role as CEO Birch Narrows Dene Development Inc. Knowledge and opportunities across Canada through his role as Founder & Chair of the Western Canada Economic Forum. International investment bridge-building as British Honorary Consul for Saskatchewan for the past 14 years. In this episode, we cover: How Birch Narrows Dene Nation is positioning itself beside one of Saskatchewan’s next major uranium mines Why First Nations are pursuing early-stage equity in critical minerals rather than waiting for projects to mature Lessons from the Sparrowhawk and Roal Helium MOU How loan guarantee programmes can unlock Indigenous ownership in emerging resources Saskatchewan’s fast-moving SMR roadmap, including leadership from Bruce Power and Ontario Power Generation What UK and European investors should understand about working with Indigenous partners in Canada’s natural resource sectors We also explore the important role of Western Canada Economic Forum plays in bringing key stakeholders from industry, provincial government, and federal government together to spur greater collaboration across Western Canada (British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba) in energy and mining, agriculture, and supply chain development. Whether you’re a Nation building your economic development strategy or an investor looking to partner respectfully and effectively, this episode offers clear, practical insights into where the opportunities are emerging and how Indigenous Nations are positioning to lead them.

    37 min
  6. Indigenous Investment in Canada: The National Indigenous Economic Strategy Explained

    JAN 15

    Indigenous Investment in Canada: The National Indigenous Economic Strategy Explained

    This episode examines Indigenous investment in Canada, institutional capital, and Indigenous partnerships, as well as why Indigenous-led finance is now central to infrastructure, energy, and natural resource investment outcomes. Under Dawn Madahbee-Leach leadership a $150,000 First Nation–owned loan fund scaled to more than $170 million, supporting more than 4,000 projects across Canada. In this episode of Drumbeats, she joins Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant to examine what that growth reveals about Indigenous-led capital, governance, and long-term economic value creation. Recorded on the 10th anniversary of Canada’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission, this conversation offers a rare, inside perspective on the National Indigenous Economic Strategy for Canada a landmark framework authored by Indigenous leaders and 25 national organisations, outlining 107 calls to economic prosperity across four pathways: people, land, finance, and infrastructure. Dawn explains how corporations, institutional investors, and government agencies are already implementing elements of the strategy, reshaping procurement, equity participation, and significant project development in the energy, infrastructure, mining, and trade sectors. She also shares what senior decision-makers should watch for ahead of the 2027 progress report and why Indigenous partnerships are no longer optional but foundational to successful investment in Canada. This episode is essential listening for institutional investors, policymakers, corporate leaders, and Indigenous economic leaders as they navigate the future of capital, reconciliation, and economic sovereignty.

    39 min
  7. Emily Black: Why Indigenous Partnerships Are Now Core Corporate Strategy

    JAN 8

    Emily Black: Why Indigenous Partnerships Are Now Core Corporate Strategy

    Canada's largest Indigenous equity partnerships aren't happening by accident - they're the result of deliberate corporate strategy, government support, and Indigenous communities' increasing interest in owning infrastructure that operate in their territories. Enbridge has been at the centre of this important work, having completed multiple transaction since 2022. Until December 2025, Emily Black served as Director of Strategic Projects and Partnerships at Enbridge Inc., where she led a landmark Indigenous equity transaction with 38 First Nations in British Columbia, the first transaction to utilize the government of Canada's Indigenous Loan Guarantee Program. Emily has now been appointed Director of Corporate Strategy for Enbridge, one of North America's largest infrastructure companies with operations spanning liquids pipelines, gas transmission, gas distribution, and renewable power across Canada, the United States, and Europe.

    38 min
  8. Best of Drumbeats 2025: Looking Back to Move Forward

    JAN 1

    Best of Drumbeats 2025: Looking Back to Move Forward

    Mark and Rob kick off 2026 by exploring the Canadian levée tradition, tracing its origins back to 1606 and highlighting how Indigenous participation has been fundamental to this relationship-building custom since the very beginning. The episode features the "Best of Drumbeats 2025," showcasing highlights from the top 10 most influential guest conversations—including insights from leaders like Clint Davis, Harold Calla, and Jaimie Lickers—that define the current state of Indigenous investment and capital flow. Looking ahead, the hosts discuss the massive 2026 project pipeline, with over $116 billion in energy and mineral developments now referred to the Major Projects Office, all requiring meaningful Indigenous partnership for successful execution.

    40 min
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WELCOME TO DRUMBEATS Drumbeats is the must-listen podcast for investors interested in Indigenous investment in Canada. Born from the Canadian Indigenous Investment Summit, the show focuses on the nexus of Indigenous economic strategies and investment opportunities. Hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant, co-chairs of the Summit, lead engaging interviews and expert analyses that explore how these crucial conversations impact economic development within Indigenous communities and beyond.

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