In The Blink of AI with Georgie Healy

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Stay ahead of the curve in the rapidly changing world of technology with the In the Blink of AI podcast Host of the show Georgie Healy leverages 15 years in tech with a vibrant Aussie sense of humor to interview leading experts in Artificial Intelligence to unpack AI’s transformative potential and provide weekly commentary on the latest headlines. Tune in for candid conversations as the rapid speed of technology navigates innovation and ethics. The podcast's mission is to demystify the AI jargon and provide real human insights for everyone from the AI-curious to seasoned experts. Hosted by Georgie Healy, In the Blink of AI is a Day One® show. Day One is the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators, and investors. Follow In the Blink of AI through Day One on LinkedIn Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups.

  1. 6d ago

    Benjamin Plummer (Dragonfly Intelligence) on AI's Real Bottleneck, and Why He's Betting on Australia

    Benjamin Plummer has one of the stranger CVs in Australian tech: nine years inside Bridgewater Associates, the world's largest hedge fund, building an AI lab alongside IBM Watson's inventor, scaling a startup he says went from $10M to $160M in revenue in eighteen months as CEO, and now running Dragonfly Intelligence, a firm that buys ordinary services businesses and rebuilds them as AI-native companies from the ground up. This conversation starts with the week ChatGPT tried to cheat its way out of its own safety harness, and what that says about accountability as models get more capable. From there, Ben and Georgie get into why coding has gotten fast while everything around it, deciding what to build, checking it got built right, has become the real bottleneck, why software has spent a decade getting bloated and what an Apple-style, purpose-built alternative could look like, and why locking your business to one model provider is a losing bet. Ben also makes the case for Australia's shot at this moment: not frontier models, but data centers, the application layer, and physical AI, backed by what he estimates is a two trillion dollar services economy that's largely untouched. It closes with Ben's read on who wins and loses as AI reshapes work, and a blunt warning for the services companies still sitting on the sidelines. CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open 0:51 Welcome to the show 2:16 Sponsor: Deel (pre-roll) 2:36 Hack of the week: the "rambling session" 5:13 Georgie's hack: the NFC nail chip 6:12 When ChatGPT tried to break its own harness 13:14 AI makes coding fast, everything else the bottleneck 15:39 Sponsor: Deel (mid-roll) 18:19 Nine years inside Bridgewater 21:37 Building Elemental Cognition with Watson's inventor 24:26 Scaling Invisible from $10M to $160M 26:06 Why Dragonfly Intelligence 27:59 Spotting "zombie companies" in the AI gold rush 32:10 Why software moats are dying 35:01 Open source, closed source, and not marrying a model 44:26 "Easier to do hard things": Dragonfly's ambition 47:12 The real debate on AI data centers in Australia 52:15 Three bets for Australia beyond frontier models 55:05 Rapid fire: what keeps Ben up, who wins and loses from AI 1:01:30 Outro

    Benjamin Plummer (Dragonfly Intelligence) on AI's Real Bottleneck, and Why He's Betting on Australia

  2. Aug 6

    Deel's COO on the AI Agent Writing Its Own Code

    Dan Westgarth has spent 7 years helping build Deel from a contractor invoicing tool into one of the most valuable HR and payroll platforms in the world, and he did it after cutting his teeth as an early operator at Revolut. As COO, he sits across nearly every function the AI conversation touches: finance, sales, engineering, and the sheer operational load of running a company at global scale. In this conversation, Dan gets specific on AI and Ops. He walks through the internal tool that takes a bug ticket, writes the fix, and opens its own pull request for an engineer to review. He talks through what he actually looks for when hiring, and the future of SaaS isn't dead, but there is about to be a lot more competition. We traverse through a funny detour into Dan's own weekend coding habit (his laptop did not enjoy….), a rundown of which AI tool he reaches for and when, and an answer to "what would you build this weekend” Listen for a leading operator's view of AI adoption at scale CHAPTERS 00:00 Cold open, the AI agent that writes its own code 00:46 Show intro, Deel's sponsorship, and what's ahead 02:03 Sponsor break, Deel 02:30 What Deel actually does 03:14 Rapid AI hot takes, finance roles, human oversight, hardware, sports, and the World Cup 09:29 Why Deel keeps winning after seven years 10:00 How the product evolved from contractor invoicing to a full HR platform 11:28 What Dan looks for when hiring 13:06 Leaving Revolut for Deel 14:17 Sponsor break, Deel 14:57 The YC Winter 2019 connection 15:49 Setting targets and building momentum 16:43 Where AI helps the sales team, and where it can't 19:20 Should AI handle your email 21:03 AI meeting assistants, pros and cons 22:53 What makes an A+ engineer in 2026 23:37 Inside DCA, Deel's self-writing code agent 25:55 Breaking into new international markets 28:34 B2C versus B2B expansion 30:16 The cost of not using a platform like Deel 33:01 What keeps Dan up at night about AI agents 33:29 Akai, and scaling operations without growing headcount 36:15 Dan's own weekend coding experiment 37:26 Rapid fire, is the SaaS apocalypse real 39:48 The physical Deel Card and crypto payroll 42:23 What is a stablecoin 43:02 Which AI tools Dan actually reaches for 44:51 If Dan built one AI project this weekend 46:45 Closing thoughts and where to find Dan 47:08 Deel's new Arsenal FC sponsorship 48:41 Georgie's weekly AI newsletter

    Deel's COO on the AI Agent Writing Its Own Code

  3. Jul 30

    Lucas Cantor: "I Don't Think Anybody Knows What AI Is"

    Lucas Cantor has an unusual claim on the AI conversation. In 2019, Huawei asked him to finish Schubert's Unfinished Symphony using artificial intelligence, and he did it. He's an Emmy-winning composer who has worked on every Olympics since 2002, produced a cover of Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde, and now invests in music technology. His new book is Unfinished: The Role of the Artist in the Age of Artificial Intelligence. In this episode Georgie Healy gets Lucas to take apart the story we're all being told about AI. Why he thinks nobody actually knows what the term even means. Why every single person he asks assumes AI can do the job they're not an expert in, and can't do the job they are. Why the claim that AI democratizes creativity is a fallacy sold by AI companies, and what it actually democratizes instead. Why B2B SaaS isn't dead, and who benefits from you believing it is. And why the music industry, supposedly murdered by Napster, is bigger now than it was before. If you build, market, or operate anything, this is a useful hour of pressure testing. Lucas isn't a doomer and he isn't an evangelist. He's someone who has been inside the technology long enough to tell the difference between what it does and what it's sold as. Recorded ahead of his first trip to Australia for BIGSOUND - which is September 1st - 4th in Brisbane! Chapters: 00:00 Cold open 00:54 Welcome, and who Lucas Cantor is 02:49 The AI hack: stem separation 04:14 Taylor Swift's wedding 04:55 BIGSOUND, and the fear around AI in music 06:23 Why the purist argument falls apart 07:25 Tuning has drifted since the Renaissance 10:02 Composer, producer, author, investor 11:16 What Suno is, and the ethics problem 12:20 Why all music sounds better now 15:33 What it actually means to have your music stolen 16:56 Covering Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde 19:19 Source Connect, Audio Movers, and remote studios 20:22 The fallacy that AI democratizes creativity 22:38 Black Swan, conductors, and the war on expertise 24:26 The doctor who said AI could write a pop song 27:38 Why he called himself a Luddite 30:18 Hans Zimmer's studio, and saying yes to Huawei 32:34 Finishing Schubert's Unfinished Symphony 37:00 "I don't think anybody knows what AI is" 38:49 Every AI agent ad shows something nobody needs 42:14 Hot take: is B2B SaaS dead? 45:13 AI is a story, and that's the problem 46:25 What actually wins in music tech 49:28 Amusing, but not amazing 50:20 Ben Affleck, Scorsese, and AI in the creative process 53:30 Two Emmys and a coach of the year award 55:36 The one takeaway from Unfinished 57:33 Georgie's Substack, Attention Is All I Need

    Lucas Cantor: "I Don't Think Anybody Knows What AI Is"

  4. Jul 23

    Why AI Can't Replace Marketing Strategy - with LinkedIn's Robin O'Connell

    Robin O'Connell spends his days inside LinkedIn's marketing and advertising team in Australia, working with founders and brands on content strategy - which makes him a rare voice on where AI genuinely helps marketers, and where it still falls flat. In this episode, Robin makes the case that the smartest move for any marketer right now is trying to replace parts of your own job with AI, just to find out fast what it can't do. His answer: strategy. AI can automate tactics at scale, but it still can't replace the judgement that comes from genuinely understanding a customer. Georgie and Robin get into how brands actually stand out on LinkedIn (hint: it's not by looking like Apple), why comments and DMs are a better growth signal than impressions, and how to tell when AI-written content is quietly killing your credibility. The standout story, though, is personal: Robin's dad Dennis, a serial entrepreneur in Dublin who lost his retail business during COVID, now runs a landscaping venture - and uses AI image generation on an iPad to show clients exactly what their garden will look like before a single spade hits the ground. It's one of the clearest, most human examples of AI actually changing how someone runs a small business. Find Robin on LinkedIn for more on marketing, AI, and content strategy.

    Why AI Can't Replace Marketing Strategy - with LinkedIn's Robin O'Connell

  5. Jul 16

    "The SaaS Apocalypse Is A Myth" with Freddie McKenzie, Co-Founder & CEO of Manifest

    Freddie McKenzie is the co-founder and CEO of Manifest, an AI platform that helps creative and marketing agencies capture the real value of their work without timesheets. Before Manifest, he built and exited VIVID Creative, an Auckland-based production agency behind campaigns for Jetstar and other major brands, and in this conversation with Georgie Healy he traces that journey and where he thinks AI agents, and the AI hype cycle, are actually heading. Freddie shares his AI hack of stacking meeting transcripts to actually see progress over time, and explains why he refuses to automate the one interface he thinks matters most: his inbox. He unpacks why Manifest's CTO built a proprietary AI model instead of wrapping an off-the-shelf one, the real story behind Manifest's $2 million pre-seed raise in a tough funding market, and his take on why most companies experimenting with AI agents still can't get past their first prompt. He also makes the case that the so-called SaaS apocalypse is a myth, and shares his simple rule for founders chasing product-market fit: find the ugly problem, not the sexy one. Mentioned in this episode: Deel x PX_Post Intro

    "The SaaS Apocalypse Is A Myth" with Freddie McKenzie, Co-Founder & CEO of Manifest

  6. Jul 9

    Mira Murati, the Quiet Superpower in the AI Race

    Welcome to the first ever episode of AI Icons, a new thing I'm launching on the show. Here's the idea: the people reshaping tech have stories more entertaining than anything Hollywood is putting out, so in under 30 minutes I'm going to tell you the whole story, the good, the bad, and the ugly, but only the facts. No spin. And at the end, I'll give you my two cents on what actually made them an icon, and whether it's something you and I could ever replicate. First up is Mira Murati, and I'll admit it, I'm a fan. I take you all the way back to her childhood in isolated post-communist Albania, where maths was the one subject the party couldn't rewrite, through a scholarship in Canada, degrees in maths and mechanical engineering, and a Goldman Sachs floor in Tokyo at 21. Then it's Tesla and those ridiculous Falcon Wing doors, a risky bet on a startup called Leap Motion, and the move that made her famous: OpenAI, where she rose to CTO and helped bring DALL-E and ChatGPT into your life. And then there's the part that genuinely reads like a thriller. The 72 hours in November 2023 when Sam Altman was fired, Mira was named CEO, and a 52-page memo and a string of 2:30am texts sat right at the center of it. I walk you through what we know, what we still don't, and what came out under oath. I finish on her next act, Thinking Machines Lab, the record-breaking raise, the talent exodus, and why, out of my four Gs, I think one of them explains her better than the rest. Come find out which one. In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders. It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast. Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone ✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/ The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors. Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter

    Mira Murati, the Quiet Superpower in the AI Race

  7. Jul 2

    How AI Models Are Really Judged, with Peter Gostev (Arena / LMArena)

    Peter Gostev is head of AI capabilities at Arena (LMArena), the community-based platform where millions of real people vote in blind tests to rank AI models, born out of research at UC Berkeley. Before Arena, Peter was Head of AI at Moonpig and built a large following sharing hands-on explorations of what the latest models can actually do. He joins Georgie Healy from London for a genuinely nerdy, insider look at how models are judged and where the frontier is heading. In this episode, Peter explains the difference between static benchmarks and human judgment, and why a model can pass every test you write and still produce something that looks completely awful. He breaks down the current state of the leaderboards, why Anthropic's models are dominating and how that tracks with real world adoption, and gives a sharp comparison of the top Western models, including why Anthropic's non-reasoning models are exceptional while OpenAI's strength lies in deep reasoning. Georgie and Peter get into why people aren't using Chinese models more despite their quality, the economics behind AI pricing and how enterprise usage is priced very differently from consumer subscriptions, why release cadence matters as much as capability, and what the wave of data centre investment means for the models arriving next. Along the way there's a fond detour on Opus 3 as the model you could talk to for hours, and why better models can sometimes feel worse. Tune in for a clear-eyed, hype-free guide to how AI models are really evaluated, straight from someone who watches the charts move in real time. Mentioned in this episode: Deel x PX_Post Intro

    How AI Models Are Really Judged, with Peter Gostev (Arena / LMArena)

  8. Jun 25

    Inside ElevenLabs: Voice AI, Cloning Ethics, and the End of the Call Centre?

    Damian Naughton is the General Manager of ANZ at ElevenLabs, the voice AI company now past US$500 million in ARR, just four years after its 2022 founding. Formerly a regional VP at Slack and an early team member at Sydney's Hyper Anna (acquired by Alteryx), Damian is leading ElevenLabs' new Sydney office and tripling the local team as enterprise demand for voice AI accelerates. In this episode, Damian and Georgie Healy cover why ElevenLabs is planting a flag in ANZ now and the local customers already on board, including Xero, Employment Hero, Heidi Health, Australia Post, and Andromeda Robotics' aged care companion robot Abby. Damian unpacks the company's high performance culture and the "11x yourself" philosophy, why intrinsic motivation beats top down pressure, and how he co-designs stretch goals with new hires. They get into voice cloning and the ethics behind it, how little audio you actually need to clone a voice, and how ElevenLabs handles consent, safety, and scammers, including a clever "reverse" use case that keeps fraudsters on the line to gather intel for banks. Damian also shares his view that enterprise AI needs to be led by the business rather than tech, why the BPO and consulting worlds are facing real disruption, and his take that tall poppy syndrome is a scourge holding Australian tech back. Tune in for a candid conversation on voice AI, building a high performing team, and how enterprises should prepare for a near future where your own AI assistant takes action on your behalf. Time Stamps 00:00 – Intro: Your AI Assistant Will Soon Take Action For You 02:17 – AI Hack of the Week: A Michael Caine Voice Butler On The Fridge 04:57 – ElevenLabs Launches in Australia and New Zealand 07:14 – Why Voice AI Is Ready Now (Xero, Employment Hero, Heidi, Andromeda) 10:52 – From Journalist to Voice AI: How AI Is Changing the News 13:40 – Inside Hyper Anna, the Aussie Startup Acquired by Alteryx 15:31 – ElevenLabs' High Performance Culture and the "11x Yourself" Rule 25:38 – The ElevenLabs Founding Story: Two Polish Founders and Bad Dubbing 28:42 – How Will Australia React to Voice AI? 31:24 – Voice Cloning Ethics, Consent, and Celebrity Voices 34:12 – How Little Audio You Need to Clone a Voice 37:17 – Voice AI and Scammers: How ElevenLabs Fights Fraud 42:05 – Can AI Bring Back Music From Artists Who Have Passed? 45:11 – Can Enterprise Companies Actually Adapt to AI? 53:05 – Advice for Heads of AI: Let Business Lead, Not Tech 56:39 – Rapid Fire: Tall Poppy Syndrome, Hiring, and Spicy Takes 1:02:05 – Where to Follow Damian and ElevenLabs In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders. It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast. Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone ✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/ The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors. Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter Mentioned in this episode: Deel x PX_Post Intro

    Inside ElevenLabs: Voice AI, Cloning Ethics, and the End of the Call Centre?
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Stay ahead of the curve in the rapidly changing world of technology with the In the Blink of AI podcast Host of the show Georgie Healy leverages 15 years in tech with a vibrant Aussie sense of humor to interview leading experts in Artificial Intelligence to unpack AI’s transformative potential and provide weekly commentary on the latest headlines. Tune in for candid conversations as the rapid speed of technology navigates innovation and ethics. The podcast's mission is to demystify the AI jargon and provide real human insights for everyone from the AI-curious to seasoned experts. Hosted by Georgie Healy, In the Blink of AI is a Day One® show. Day One is the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators, and investors. Follow In the Blink of AI through Day One on LinkedIn Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups.

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