In The Blink of AI with Georgie Healy

Stay ahead of the curve in the rapidly changing world of technology with the In the Blink of AI podcast Host of the show Georgie Healy leverages 15 years in tech with a vibrant Aussie sense of humor to interview leading experts in Artificial Intelligence to unpack AI’s transformative potential and provide weekly commentary on the latest headlines. Tune in for candid conversations as the rapid speed of technology navigates innovation and ethics. The podcast's mission is to demystify the AI jargon and provide real human insights for everyone from the AI-curious to seasoned experts. Hosted by Georgie Healy, In the Blink of AI is a Day One® show. Day One is the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators, and investors. Follow In the Blink of AI through Day One on LinkedIn Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups.

  1. Aug 27

    Elon Musk: Hero to Headcase

    For a decade, Elon Musk was the face of the modern entrepreneur: a self-made billionaire who bet his fortune on impossible ideas and somehow made them work. SpaceX made reusable rockets a reality. Tesla helped turn electric cars into a global phenomenon. He became one of the most admired and influential figures in technology. So what happened? In this episode of In the Blink of AI, Georgie Healy traces Musk’s journey from bullied South African kid and PayPal millionaire to the man behind Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, X, xAI and more. Along the way, we explore the moments that transformed his public image: the Tesla “funding secured” controversy, his increasingly combative behavior online, his influence over Starlink during the war in Ukraine, his takeover of Twitter, his political rise alongside Donald Trump, and the controversies surrounding Grok. But this isn’t simply a takedown. Using the 4Gs framework, Georgie asks the harder question: Was Elon Musk actually a genius, or was he simply in the right place at the right time? The answer is more complicated than either side might want to admit. Because Musk may genuinely have helped solve some of the hardest engineering problems of our time. But does extraordinary capability excuse harmful behaviour? You be the judge. CHAPTERS 00:00 Elon Musk: From the World’s Most Admired Entrepreneur to the Most Controversial 02:08 Growing Up in South Africa: Bullying, Obsession, and Early Signs of Genius 02:57 Leaving South Africa and Building His First Tech Ventures 04:26 Zip2: Musk’s First Major Exit and the $307 Million Sale 04:38 X.com, PayPal, and the Power Struggle That Ousted Musk 05:26 The PayPal Mafia and the Fortune That Funded Musk’s Next Bets 07:40 SpaceX and Tesla: Betting His Fortune on Impossible Ideas 08:09 Falcon 1’s Historic Launch and SpaceX’s Near-Death Experience 08:50 Tesla’s Rise and the Revolution of Electric Cars 10:28 Peak Elon: SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, and the Golden Years 11:06 How Much Did Elon Musk Actually Build? The Founder Debate 12:27 The Iron Man Myth and the People Behind Musk’s Companies 13:26 2018: The Year Elon Musk’s Public Image Changed 13:50 The “Funding Secured” Tweet and Tesla’s SEC Battle 15:10 The Thailand Cave Rescue and the “Pedo Guy” Controversy 15:45 Joe Rogan, Marijuana, and Musk’s Growing Pattern of Controversy 18:18 Starlink in Ukraine: When a Private Company Controls Wartime Infrastructure 19:17 Musk, Crimea, and the Limits of Private Power 20:47 Why Starlink May Be Musk’s Biggest Governance Problem 21:07 Buying Twitter for $44 Billion and Taking Over the Platform 22:00 Mass Layoffs, Free Speech Absolutism, and the Birth of X 23:43 Hate Speech, the Great Replacement Theory, and the Advertiser Exodus 25:13 The Case Against Musk’s Version of Free Speech 27:11 Musk Enters Politics and Becomes Trump’s Biggest Donor 28:02 DOGE, the Controversial Gesture, and Musk’s Growing Political Influence 28:44 Tesla Protests, DOGE’s Promised Savings, and the Fallout 30:58 Musk vs. Trump: From Political Alliance to Public Feud 31:16 xAI and Grok: Musk’s Vision for an “Anti-Woke” AI 32:08 Grok’s Hitler Controversy and the Rise of “Spicy Mode” 33:46 AI Safety, Non-Consensual Images, and the Cost of Unrestricted AI 35:00 The Expanding Musk Empire: SpaceX, Starlink, X, xAI, Tesla, and More 36:28 The 4 Gs: Is Elon Musk a Grown-Up, Genius, or Something Else? 36:49 Why Musk Fails the “Grown-Up” and “Gravitas” Tests 39:00 Genius vs. Accountability: What Musk Actually Changed 40:00 The Final Verdict: Genius Without a Hall Pass

    Elon Musk: Hero to Headcase
  2. Aug 20

    We're afraid of the wrong thing in AI - with Paloma Newton

    Paloma Newton is the founder of Elita, a longevity platform for dogs that combines biological testing, clinical history, and the changes owners notice day to day into one picture of how a dog is ageing. She built it backwards by most startup standards, a stem cell bank before a product, years of science before a single marketing push, all under one rule: don't promise more than the platform can back up. On this episode, Paloma brings that same rigor to two of the week's biggest AI headlines. She explains why South Australia's $3 million Royal Commission into AI is aimed at the wrong problem, and makes the sharper case that most of our anxiety about AI isn't really about the technology at all, it's about trust in who controls it. She also gets into the Jevons Paradox and why AI was never going to hand us more free time, her own weekly system for separating real output from busywork, and why she thinks women stepping back from AI over ethical concerns is a bigger loss than it looks. Plus, the origin story behind Elita, starting with her dog Edgar's breed health scan, and a closing surprise guest who may or may not understand what a podcast is. Whether you're building, funding, or just trying to make sense of the AI news cycle, this one's worth the full listen. CHAPTERS 00:00 Cold open 01:10 Welcome & episode preview 02:14 Sponsor: Deel 02:40 AI hack of the week: the self-updating Slack to-do list 04:01 What is Elita 04:51 Headline: South Australia's $3M AI Royal Commission 11:31 Headline: Does AI actually give us more free time 14:58 Sponsor: Deel 18:29 The Elita origin story: Edgar, stem cells, and building backwards 25:35 Pet longevity vs. human longevity 32:18 Holding AI's promise and its doom and gloom at once 40:52 The AI-designed cancer vaccine that started with one dog 45:06 Why women opting out of AI should worry everyone 50:01 Rapid fire 53:23 What Australia does best in AI and deep tech 55:46 A very special guest

    We're afraid of the wrong thing in AI - with Paloma Newton
  3. Aug 13

    Benjamin Plummer (Dragonfly Intelligence) on AI's Real Bottleneck, and Why He's Betting on Australia

    Benjamin Plummer has one of the stranger CVs in Australian tech: nine years inside Bridgewater Associates, the world's largest hedge fund, building an AI lab alongside IBM Watson's inventor, scaling a startup he says went from $10M to $160M in revenue in eighteen months as CEO, and now running Dragonfly Intelligence, a firm that buys ordinary services businesses and rebuilds them as AI-native companies from the ground up. This conversation starts with the week ChatGPT tried to cheat its way out of its own safety harness, and what that says about accountability as models get more capable. From there, Ben and Georgie get into why coding has gotten fast while everything around it, deciding what to build, checking it got built right, has become the real bottleneck, why software has spent a decade getting bloated and what an Apple-style, purpose-built alternative could look like, and why locking your business to one model provider is a losing bet. Ben also makes the case for Australia's shot at this moment: not frontier models, but data centers, the application layer, and physical AI, backed by what he estimates is a two trillion dollar services economy that's largely untouched. It closes with Ben's read on who wins and loses as AI reshapes work, and a blunt warning for the services companies still sitting on the sidelines. CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open 0:51 Welcome to the show 2:16 Sponsor: Deel (pre-roll) 2:36 Hack of the week: the "rambling session" 5:13 Georgie's hack: the NFC nail chip 6:12 When ChatGPT tried to break its own harness 13:14 AI makes coding fast, everything else the bottleneck 15:39 Sponsor: Deel (mid-roll) 18:19 Nine years inside Bridgewater 21:37 Building Elemental Cognition with Watson's inventor 24:26 Scaling Invisible from $10M to $160M 26:06 Why Dragonfly Intelligence 27:59 Spotting "zombie companies" in the AI gold rush 32:10 Why software moats are dying 35:01 Open source, closed source, and not marrying a model 44:26 "Easier to do hard things": Dragonfly's ambition 47:12 The real debate on AI data centers in Australia 52:15 Three bets for Australia beyond frontier models 55:05 Rapid fire: what keeps Ben up, who wins and loses from AI 1:01:30 Outro

    Benjamin Plummer (Dragonfly Intelligence) on AI's Real Bottleneck, and Why He's Betting on Australia
  4. Aug 6

    Deel's COO on the AI Agent Writing Its Own Code

    Dan Westgarth has spent 7 years helping build Deel from a contractor invoicing tool into one of the most valuable HR and payroll platforms in the world, and he did it after cutting his teeth as an early operator at Revolut. As COO, he sits across nearly every function the AI conversation touches: finance, sales, engineering, and the sheer operational load of running a company at global scale. In this conversation, Dan gets specific on AI and Ops. He walks through the internal tool that takes a bug ticket, writes the fix, and opens its own pull request for an engineer to review. He talks through what he actually looks for when hiring, and the future of SaaS isn't dead, but there is about to be a lot more competition. We traverse through a funny detour into Dan's own weekend coding habit (his laptop did not enjoy….), a rundown of which AI tool he reaches for and when, and an answer to "what would you build this weekend” Listen for a leading operator's view of AI adoption at scale CHAPTERS 00:00 Cold open, the AI agent that writes its own code 00:46 Show intro, Deel's sponsorship, and what's ahead 02:03 Sponsor break, Deel 02:30 What Deel actually does 03:14 Rapid AI hot takes, finance roles, human oversight, hardware, sports, and the World Cup 09:29 Why Deel keeps winning after seven years 10:00 How the product evolved from contractor invoicing to a full HR platform 11:28 What Dan looks for when hiring 13:06 Leaving Revolut for Deel 14:17 Sponsor break, Deel 14:57 The YC Winter 2019 connection 15:49 Setting targets and building momentum 16:43 Where AI helps the sales team, and where it can't 19:20 Should AI handle your email 21:03 AI meeting assistants, pros and cons 22:53 What makes an A+ engineer in 2026 23:37 Inside DCA, Deel's self-writing code agent 25:55 Breaking into new international markets 28:34 B2C versus B2B expansion 30:16 The cost of not using a platform like Deel 33:01 What keeps Dan up at night about AI agents 33:29 Akai, and scaling operations without growing headcount 36:15 Dan's own weekend coding experiment 37:26 Rapid fire, is the SaaS apocalypse real 39:48 The physical Deel Card and crypto payroll 42:23 What is a stablecoin 43:02 Which AI tools Dan actually reaches for 44:51 If Dan built one AI project this weekend 46:45 Closing thoughts and where to find Dan 47:08 Deel's new Arsenal FC sponsorship 48:41 Georgie's weekly AI newsletter

    Deel's COO on the AI Agent Writing Its Own Code
  5. Jul 30

    Lucas Cantor: "I Don't Think Anybody Knows What AI Is"

    Lucas Cantor has an unusual claim on the AI conversation. In 2019, Huawei asked him to finish Schubert's Unfinished Symphony using artificial intelligence, and he did it. He's an Emmy-winning composer who has worked on every Olympics since 2002, produced a cover of Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde, and now invests in music technology. His new book is Unfinished: The Role of the Artist in the Age of Artificial Intelligence. In this episode Georgie Healy gets Lucas to take apart the story we're all being told about AI. Why he thinks nobody actually knows what the term even means. Why every single person he asks assumes AI can do the job they're not an expert in, and can't do the job they are. Why the claim that AI democratizes creativity is a fallacy sold by AI companies, and what it actually democratizes instead. Why B2B SaaS isn't dead, and who benefits from you believing it is. And why the music industry, supposedly murdered by Napster, is bigger now than it was before. If you build, market, or operate anything, this is a useful hour of pressure testing. Lucas isn't a doomer and he isn't an evangelist. He's someone who has been inside the technology long enough to tell the difference between what it does and what it's sold as. Recorded ahead of his first trip to Australia for BIGSOUND - which is September 1st - 4th in Brisbane! Chapters: 00:00 Cold open 00:54 Welcome, and who Lucas Cantor is 02:49 The AI hack: stem separation 04:14 Taylor Swift's wedding 04:55 BIGSOUND, and the fear around AI in music 06:23 Why the purist argument falls apart 07:25 Tuning has drifted since the Renaissance 10:02 Composer, producer, author, investor 11:16 What Suno is, and the ethics problem 12:20 Why all music sounds better now 15:33 What it actually means to have your music stolen 16:56 Covering Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde 19:19 Source Connect, Audio Movers, and remote studios 20:22 The fallacy that AI democratizes creativity 22:38 Black Swan, conductors, and the war on expertise 24:26 The doctor who said AI could write a pop song 27:38 Why he called himself a Luddite 30:18 Hans Zimmer's studio, and saying yes to Huawei 32:34 Finishing Schubert's Unfinished Symphony 37:00 "I don't think anybody knows what AI is" 38:49 Every AI agent ad shows something nobody needs 42:14 Hot take: is B2B SaaS dead? 45:13 AI is a story, and that's the problem 46:25 What actually wins in music tech 49:28 Amusing, but not amazing 50:20 Ben Affleck, Scorsese, and AI in the creative process 53:30 Two Emmys and a coach of the year award 55:36 The one takeaway from Unfinished 57:33 Georgie's Substack, Attention Is All I Need

    Lucas Cantor: "I Don't Think Anybody Knows What AI Is"

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Stay ahead of the curve in the rapidly changing world of technology with the In the Blink of AI podcast Host of the show Georgie Healy leverages 15 years in tech with a vibrant Aussie sense of humor to interview leading experts in Artificial Intelligence to unpack AI’s transformative potential and provide weekly commentary on the latest headlines. Tune in for candid conversations as the rapid speed of technology navigates innovation and ethics. The podcast's mission is to demystify the AI jargon and provide real human insights for everyone from the AI-curious to seasoned experts. Hosted by Georgie Healy, In the Blink of AI is a Day One® show. Day One is the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators, and investors. Follow In the Blink of AI through Day One on LinkedIn Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups.

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