Man in the Middle Show w/ Kevin & Joe

Kevin Rogers & Joe DiRoma

Man in the Middle Show with Kevin & Joe Are you a middle-aged man feeling trapped in your life? Stuck in a relationship, career, health situation, or financial rut that leaves you unfulfilled? Do you find yourself asking, "Is this it? Is it me? Is there more?" You're not alone, and the Man in the Middle Show is here to prove it. Join Kevin and Joe, two regular guys living in the "middle", as they dive deep into the challenges, triumphs, and existential questions that plague men in midlife. This isn't your typical self-help podcast – it's a raw, honest conversation between friends who've been there, done that, and are still figuring it out. Meet Your Hosts: Kevin at 54, he's a bald, bionic entrepreneur with a metal heart valve and 20 years in the "bonus round" of life. A former stand-up comic turned business owner, Kevin's journey includes: - 25 years of marriage - Raising two newly adult children - A near-death experience and open-heart surgery at 35 - Navigating major career shifts and life transitions Joe is The 42-year-old "regular guy" with an extraordinary story: - 15 years sober after a 13-year battle with addiction - High school dropout turned successful restaurant industry leader and now COO in digital marketing - Father to a teenager and expecting a newborn (talk about a midlife shake-up!) - Proof that it's never too late to turn your life around Why Listen? Real Talk, No BS... Kevin and Joe aren't therapists or gurus – they're guys just like you, sharing their experiences and struggles without filters. You're Not Alone! Discover that those feelings of emptiness, confusion, and restlessness are normal and part of the midlife journey for many men. Diverse Perspectives are critical. With their vastly different backgrounds and life experiences, Kevin and Joe offer unique insights into common midlife challenges. Inspiration to Ask Bigger Questions. Instead of easy answers, you'll be motivated to dig deeper and rediscover what truly matters to you. A Safe Space for Men. Finally, a place where you can hear open, honest discussions about the topics men often feel they can't talk about. Practical Wisdom. Learn from the hosts' successes and failures as they navigate relationships, career transitions, health scares, and major life changes. Finally... some Humor and Heart. Expect laughs alongside the deep stuff – because sometimes, you've got to find the funny in life's challenges. The Man in the Middle Show isn't about having it all figured out. It's about embracing the messy middle, finding meaning in the struggle, and realizing that your best years might still be ahead of you. Whether you're feeling lost, looking for a change, or just want to hear from guys who get it, Kevin and Joe are here to bring you into the middle of the conversation. You're not above, you're not below – you're right there with them, part of a community of men facing midlife head-on. Tune in and discover: - Strategies for reigniting passion in your relationships and career - How to navigate major life transitions with grace (or at least a sense of humor) - Ways to redefine success and fulfillment on your own terms - The power of vulnerability and authentic male friendships - Tools for managing stress, health concerns, and the infamous midlife crisis Don't let society tell you how to age or what your life should look like. Join Kevin, Joe, and a growing tribe of men who are rewriting the rules of midlife, one honest conversation at a time. Subscribe to the Man in the Middle Show w/ Kevin & Joe because midlife doesn't have to be a crisis. It can be your awakening. New episodes drop weekly. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Remember... You're not stuck. You're not alone. And there's definitely more to life – let's find it together.

  1. 5D AGO

    Episode 18: "The Father You Had… and the Father Living Inside You"

    "The Father You Had… and the Father Living Inside You"Episode OverviewWhat did your father give you, on purpose and by accident? In this episode, Kevin and Joe explore one of the most defining midlife questions: how much of your life has been shaped by chance, and how much by choice, especially when it comes to your father and what he passed down. Kevin reflects on seeing Deliver Me from Nowhere (the Springsteen film) and how it highlights the complicated bond between a son and a father who did his best, but was often ruled by fear and anger. That becomes a doorway into Kevin’s own experiences with his dad: the “toughen up” approach, the lingering charge of old conflicts, and the heavy cost of carrying anger for decades. Joe then takes the conversation deeper with a question that turns the mirror inward: where does the father live inside you? Together they examine what gets inherited (anger, reactivity, control), what gets healed (through mentors, counseling, intentional practice), and what it means to integrate both the wounds and the wisdom, so you’re no longer a prisoner of your history. Why listenThis episode is for men who are starting to see their father more clearly, not as a hero or villain, but as a complex human being shaped by his own unresolved history. Kevin and Joe offer a grounded framework for midlife growth: making peace with the father you had, while taking responsibility for the father living inside you. If you’ve struggled with anger, emotional shutdown, jealousy, or overreaction, this conversation shows how those patterns can be understood, softened, and transformed without denying where they came from. It’s also a practical episode: they discuss counseling, marriage dynamics, emotional regulation, and how small choices, repeated over time, become generational change. Key Quotes“That’s a lot of power to give someone you don’t even like, from three years ago or thirty years ago.” “The real work of midlife is to make peace with the father, both the one who raised us and the one who lives within us.” “I got tired of having to make amends for my overreaction rather than what the overreaction was about.” “Passed down, passed down, passed down… and you can see these elevations in consciousness over generations.” “We’re all prisoners of our histories until we become the authors of our own lives.” Main Topics CoveredChoices vs. chance: the crossroads that shape a man’s lifeFather-son dynamics through the lens of Springsteen’s storyHow fear-based memories can dominate a father’s inner worldAnger as a learned response to pain, fear, and powerlessnessSeeing your father differently as you spend more time togetherThe father “inside you”: inherited patterns like jealousy, road rage, reactivityWhy “That’s just how I am” is often a refusal to growThe role of mentors, brothers, and community in rewiring a young man’s pathHollis’s midlife frame: integration over rejection or idolizationHow Joe learned to stop yelling: counseling, partnership, practice, and accountabilityParenting with presence: how a man’s voice and energy affect childrenEmotional release and the cost of numbing (and what changes when feelings return)Generational healing: taking the good, naming the harm, and choosing betterMentorship as responsibility: pouring into other people’s kids with courage and care Key TakeawaysMidlife invites you to re-evaluate your father with clarity and compassion, not denial.The goal is integration: hold the wounds and the wisdom without becoming either.Anger is often fear in a louder voice, and it can be unlearned with practice.Real accountability means addressing the real issue, not constantly repairing your reaction.Generational change is usually incremental, but it becomes powerful over time.If you lacked what you needed at home, you will seek it elsewhere, so choose your people well.Mentorship matters: a caring word from a steady adult can become a turning point. Recommended ResourceFinding Meaning in the Second Half of Life by James Hollis (referenced directly)The Middle Passage by James Hollis (core framework for midlife transition)Journaling or reflection practice using the question: “What did my father pass down, and what am I choosing to keep?” Next StepsIf this episode described something you’ve been unable to explain, share it with one man you trust. Use it to start a real conversation: not about life “updates,” but about what’s actually changing inside you. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help more men find the show during a season when isolation can turn dangerous. And for Kevin’s companion newsletter tied to each episode, sign up for the SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTubeListen on AppleListen on SpotifySign up for the Newsletter

    42 min
  2. FEB 16

    Episode 16: "Men: Stop Waiting For Your People To Reach Out – Do This Instead"

    “Men: Stop Waiting for Your People to Reach Out – Do This Instead”Episode OverviewWhat do you do when you’re going through something difficult, and the people you expected to hear from stay silent? In this episode, Kevin and Joe name a quiet midlife reality: many men feel isolated, not because they have no one, but because they’re waiting, resentfully, for someone else to make the first move. Kevin shares what he learned during a season of deep solitude and life transition: assumptions create suffering, and silence can easily become a story we use against others. Joe offers a direct, practical alternative: stop waiting to be loved. Be the man who leads with love. When someone enters your consciousness, reach out immediately. A simple text, sent at the right time, can repair distance, reopen brotherhood, and change the emotional weather of a man’s life. Why listenKevin and Joe continue integrating insights from their recent conversation with Dr. James Hollis, especially the idea that real change requires insight, courage, and endurance. This episode focuses on what courage looks like in everyday life: choosing discomfort, initiating connection, and acting on the inner nudge to show up for someone. If you’ve been feeling disconnected, disappointed in friendships, or quietly angry that “nobody checks on me,” this is a clean reset. Not with platitudes, with a specific practice you can start today. Key Quotes“Don’t blame others for inaction when you need them, create the action that sparks what you needed.” “Unstated unrealistic expectations are only premeditated resentments.” “When somebody entered my consciousness, I would call or text them… ‘I was thinking about you.’ It radically transformed my relationships.” “You’ve got to fight for peace… schedule your priorities.” “When you’re at your lowest, do something. Do something for other people. Do something for yourself. And keep moving.” Main Topics CoveredMen, isolation, and the habit of waiting for others to initiateHow midlife transitions expose friendship gaps and unmet expectationsWhy silence isn’t always betrayal, it’s often discomfort and avoidanceChoosing growth over comfort in relationshipsInsight, courage, and endurance as everyday practicesHow resentment builds when expectations are unspokenA simple relationship rule: “If they enter your mind, reach out”Scheduling peace, nature, and movement for mental stabilityFatherhood, legacy, and defining success beyond moneySmall actions that rebuild meaning: journaling, walking, showing up Key TakeawaysIf you need support, initiate, silence is not proof of disloyalty. The “nudge” to reach out is often worth following immediately.Resentment grows when expectations are unspoken and unrealistic.Depth and brotherhood are built through repeated, simple reps.When you feel low, movement and service are medicine, keep moving. Recommended ResourceThe Middle Passage by James Hollis (referenced as a core framework for midlife transition)The Broken Mirror by James Hollis (mentioned in the discussion)Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life by James Hollis (quoted and referenced) Next StepsIf this episode gave you a needed push, send it to one man you care about, especially someone you’ve been meaning to check on. Consider using it as the simplest outreach line possible: “I heard this and thought of you.” Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help the show reach more men navigating midlife transitions. And for weekly companion reflections to each episode, sign up for the SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTubeListen on AppleListen on SpotifySign up for the Newsletter

    56 min
  3. FEB 9

    Episode 15: Dr. James Hollis Joins Man in the Middle (Our Exclusive Interview)

    “Dr. James Hollis Joins Man in the Middle (Our Exclusive Interview)”Episode OverviewWhat happens when the life you worked so hard to build suddenly feels too small? In this rare and deeply reflective conversation, Kevin and Joe sit down with Dr. James Hollis to explore the inner crisis many men face in midlife, when achievement no longer satisfies, certainty dissolves, and the soul begins asking different question Why listenDr. James Hollis is a renowned Jungian analyst and the author of more than 19 books, including The Middle Passage, a foundational work that has given language to the psychological and spiritual transition of midlife. His writing has guided generations of men through the often unspoken inner reckoning of the second half of life Key Quotes“The ego never knows enough to know enough.” “The question of the second half of life is not what the world wants from me—but what the soul wants of me.” “You are not crazy. There is a purpose to what is breaking down.” “The smallest thing with meaning is greater than the largest thing without it.” Main Topics CoveredThe psychology of midlife transitionFirst adulthood vs. second adulthoodWhy achievement can become a prisonDepression as a summons, not a disorderEnergy, meaning, and inner authorityShadow work and the unlived lifeDreams as guidance systemsPatience, endurance, and courage Masculinity, isolation, and authenticityLegacy beyond success Key TakeawaysMidlife unrest is not failure, it is initiation.Letting go of old identities is necessary before new meaning emerges.Feelings, energy levels, and dreams are diagnostic tools, not inconveniences.The second half of life asks for service, not status.This journey cannot be rushed but it can be honored. Recommended ResourceThe Middle Passage by James Hollis (a foundational text for men in midlife)Audiobook versions of Hollis’ work, read by the authorPrisms and other writings by James Hollis Next StepsIf this episode inspired you to reconnect with joy and curiosity, please share it with someone who could use the encouragement. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help us reach more listeners navigating midlife transitions. Every episode is complemented with a weekly newsletter so sign up for our SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTubeListen on AppleListen on SpotifySign up for the Newsletter

    1h 12m
  4. FEB 2

    Episode 14: Facing Our Dark Side - Dealing with the Parts of Ourselves We Don’t Like to Admit Exist

    “Facing Our Dark Side: Dealing with the Parts of Ourselves We Don’t Like to Admit Exist”Episode OverviewWhat if the parts of you that you hide, your anger, cravings, judgments, shame, or “unacceptable” emotions, are actually the exact keys to your freedom? In this episode, Kevin and Joe go deep into the shadow self (a.k.a. your dark side), not as something “bad,” but as the parts of you that were labeled unacceptable by family, culture, or society… and quietly shaped your life from behind the scenes. Why listenKevin and Joe don’t talk theory, they talk reality. Joe brings structured insight from ontological coaching (including emotional deconstruction work), plus lived experience around recovery, identity shifts, and behavioral patterns. Kevin brings the midlife lens: self-awareness, morality, identity, and personal accountability in a way that’s honest and deeply relatable. Key Quotes“Dark side doesn’t mean bad… it means unacceptable.” “Guilt is breaking your own moral code. Shame is breaking society’s.” “Your strongest emotional reactions show you where your shadow lives.” “You’re one decision away from a different life.” “Shadow work brings you back to your authentic self.” Main Topics CoveredJung’s shadow: what it is and why it matters.Cultural conditioning vs personal morality.Guilt vs shame.Triggers, judgments, projections, and patterns.Emotional suppression in families (especially men).Humor as avoidance vs connection.Midlife awakening and identity transformation.Accountability, integrity, and conscious living. Key TakeawaysYour shadow isn’t evil, it’s exiledThe “dark parts” are often natural emotions or desires that were punished, shamed, or rejected.Your triggers are your trailIf someone annoys you irrationally, there’s usually something in you asking to be acknowledged.Midlife forces truthThis is why men in midlife start asking: “Is this really my life? Is this really me?”Bring the unconscious into the lightThe shadow has power when it’s hidden.Once seen clearly, it becomes something you can integrate instead of fear. Recommended ResourceCarl Jung — “The Shadow” (conceptual framework)Disposition work from ontological coachingJoe references Bill Burr’s recent work (special/interviews) as an example of emotional growth & masculine identity evolution Next StepsIf this episode inspired you to reconnect with joy and curiosity, please share it with someone who could use the encouragement. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help us reach more listeners navigating midlife transitions. Every episode is complemented with a weekly newsletter so sign up for our SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTubeListen on AppleListen on SpotifySign up for the Newsletter

    51 min
  5. JAN 26

    Episode 13: Career Change Without Burning Your Life Down

    “Career Change Without Burning Your Life Down”Episode OverviewWhat happens when you’re 45, 55, or even 65… and career change isn’t a choice—it’s forced? In this episode, Kevin and Joe break down the real psychology behind midlife career transitions, especially when other people depend on you. If you’ve been feeling restless, drained, boxed in, or secretly craving a second chapter… this conversation will hit home. Why listenKevin and Joe bring a grounded mix of midlife coaching insight + real lived experience, including firsthand experience with layoffs, career pivots, and rebuilding identity after a major professional reset. Key Quotes“It’s not something somebody could flippantly advise… you got a lot more concerns than just, ‘I look dumb here.’” “The task of midlife is not to look outside for answers, but to look within…” “The most important person in the world is watching everything that you do—and that’s yourself.” “You don’t need to be stuck in this thing of something that you said you didn’t want in the first place.” “We are not here to fit in… We are here to become ourselves.” Main Topics CoveredMidlife career changes after 45: why they’re rising.Provider pressure + identity crisis in men.Fear of incompetence and sunk-cost fallacy.Family expectations and lifestyle resistance.How layoffs can become a “calling”.Finding alignment vs forcing discipline.Transferable skills and resume reframing.Blue-collar opportunities and buying businesses.Why communication with your spouse is crucial. Key TakeawaysMidlife career change isn’t only professional, it’s personal identity.Don’t ignore the inner restlessness—explore before you’re forced.Look for the through-line: what wants to come to life in you now?You’re more qualified than you think—your experience contains transferable skills.Discipline without alignment becomes misery. Alignment creates discipline naturally.If your marriage can’t handle these conversations, fix that first. Recommended ResourceJames Hollis - The Middle Passage.Carl Jung (unlived life concept). Next StepsIf this episode inspired you to reconnect with joy and curiosity, please share it with someone who could use the encouragement. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help us reach more listeners navigating midlife transitions. Every episode is complemented with a weekly newsletter so sign up for our SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTubeListen on AppleListen on SpotifySign up for the Newsletter

    58 min
  6. JAN 19

    Episode12: The Dreams You Abandoned: Why Your Childhood Ambitions Hold the Key to Midlife Purpose

    “The Dreams You Abandoned: Why Your Childhood Ambitions Hold the Key to Midlife Purpose”Episode OverviewMost men don’t “lose” purpose overnight. It fades through tiny compromises: safer choices, social pressure, and years of doing what’s expected. In this episode, Kevin and Joe revisit childhood ambitions—not as nostalgia, but as data. What you loved early can reveal what your current life is missing, and what your next chapter is asking from you. Why listenKevin Rogers and Joe DiRoma have spent decades leading teams, building communities, and doing the inner work that midlife demands. They speak from experience—career pivots, leadership pressure, family responsibility, recovery, and hard-earned perspective. Key Quotes“The only regrets that come to mind… are the shots I didn’t take.” “Don’t fight it. It doesn’t matter where it leads.” “People can really feel the difference between when you’re talking to them or you’re talking at them.” “No one finds this enlightening… they’re not going to keep listening.” “All we really take in life comes down to experiences and relationships.” “You have to seek counsel… from scars, not wounds.” Main Topics CoveredChildhood dreams as clues to adult purposeIdentity vs. true aptitude: when something “looks cool” but isn’t your laneHow early gifts evolve into leadership strengthsHumor: talent, tool, and defense mechanismRegret as avoidance—and how to reclaim “missed shots” nowRecovery, integrity, and rebuilding a life without self-hatredRetirement without purpose (and why it can accelerate decline)Career uncertainty in midlife and how to adapt without panicThe role of community: why you can’t do this alone Key TakeawaysYour childhood interests are not childish. They’re often the earliest evidence of what energizes you.Regret is usually about fear, not failure. The cost of “playing it safe” compounds over decades.Your gifts can change form without losing meaning. You may not become the “actor,” but you can become the leader who creates presence and connection.Purpose must outlive your job title. If your identity depends on your role, retirement (or job loss) can become a crisis.Healing requires honesty and relationships. Growth accelerates when you stop managing it alone. Call-to-ActionIf this episode inspired you to reconnect with joy and curiosity, please share it with someone who could use the encouragement. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help us reach more listeners navigating midlife transitions. Every episode is complemented with a weekly newsletter so sign up for our SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTubeListen on AppleListen on SpotifySign up for the Newsletter

    52 min
  7. JAN 12

    Episode 11: Everything After 'But' is Bulls**t: How to Cut Through Your Own Excuses and Live Again

    "Everything After 'But' is Bulls**t: How to Cut Through Your Own Excuses and Live Again"Episode SummaryYou've built a successful life, climbed the ladder, and proven yourself. So why does the idea of starting over as a beginner feel both terrifying and necessary? In this season two premiere, Kevin and Joe tackle the uncomfortable truth about midlife: everything after "but" is usually an excuse, and staying comfortable is the most dangerous choice you can make. Through raw personal stories, Joe's transformation from bodybuilder to triathlete and Kevin's journey learning to dance alone at 55, they reveal why reclaiming the beginner's mindset might be the key to living fully again. Why You Should ListenIf you're a professional man who has achieved what you set out to accomplish but still feel something is missing, this episode offers a roadmap for renewal. Kevin and Joe don't just talk about change, they're living it. You'll discover why the discomfort you feel isn't a problem to solve but an invitation to grow, and how becoming a beginner again can unlock joy, purpose, and vitality you thought were behind you. Key Quotes"Everything after 'but' is usually b******t." - Joe's mentor"The privilege of a lifetime is to become who you truly are." - Carl Jung"Shit's coming, everybody. That's the one promise. Appreciate the blessing of every day that goes your way. And be ready for when it doesn't." - Kevin Rogers"The task of midlife is not to look into the light, but to bring light into the darkness." - James HollisKey TakeawaysListen for your "buts" - Every time you say "I'd love to, but..." you're likely feeding yourself an excuse disguised as logic. The moment you hear yourself say "but," pause and ask what fear is really driving that statement.Start before you're ready - You don't need the perfect plan, equipment, or knowledge to begin. Those who do the most sweeping discover what makes a good broom through the doing. Start messy, start imperfect, just start.Practice being uncomfortable - Find something that makes you the new guy again. The humility and growth that comes from beginner status is medicine for the stagnant soul. Whether it's a sport, skill, or social situation, put yourself in positions where you don't have all the answers.Remove friction from new habits - If you're serious about a new pursuit, eliminate barriers. Joe shaved his head for swimming efficiency. What's your equivalent? Make it easier to do the thing than to avoid it. Resources Mentioned"The Middle Passage: From Misery to Meaning in Midlife" by James Hollis - A guide to understanding that the task of midlife is not to look into the light, but to bring light into the darkness through self-realization and growth. Call-to-ActionIf this episode inspired you to reconnect with joy and curiosity, please share it with someone who could use the encouragement. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help us reach more listeners navigating midlife transitions. Every episode is complemented with a weekly newsletter so sign up for our SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTube Listen on Apple Listen on Spotify Sign up for the Newsletter

    43 min
  8. 12/16/2024

    Episode 10: Stop Taking Yourself So Seriously Reclaiming Joy and Curiosity in Midlife

    Stop Taking Yourself So Seriously: Reclaiming Joy and Curiosity in MidlifeEpisode SummaryWhat if rediscovering joy and play could unlock a deeper connection with yourself and those around you? In this lively episode, Kevin and Joe discuss why midlife is the perfect time to let go of seriousness, embrace curiosity, and reclaim the playfulness of childhood. Why You Should ListenKevin Rogers and Joe DiRoma, known for their authentic and insightful takes on midlife challenges, explore how men can integrate joy and creativity into their lives. Their combined experiences in personal development and leadership provide a unique lens on why play is more than just fun—it’s essential for growth. Why This Episode MattersAs men navigate midlife, the pressures of career, family, and societal expectations often leave little room for joy and spontaneity. This episode challenges the narrative that adulthood must be devoid of play, offering actionable ways to reignite curiosity and embrace creativity. Key Quotes“The ego’s need for control often masquerades as maturity.” – Joe, quoting James Hollis“Playfulness isn’t just for children—it’s a way to access the deepest parts of ourselves.” – Kevin“When your work becomes play, there’s no difference between them.” – JoeKey TakeawaysThe Importance of Play in Midlife: Rediscovering activities that bring joy, such as dancing, hiking, or creative hobbies, can provide mental clarity and emotional release.Letting Go of Judgment: Fear of how others perceive us often blocks joy. Kevin emphasizes the power of being the first to step on the dance floor or try something new, giving others permission to do the same.Curiosity as a Gateway to Joy: Cultivating curiosity can reignite a sense of wonder. Joe highlights how asking questions, exploring interests, and breaking from routines open pathways to creativity.The Productivity of Non-Productivity: Structured play or even intentional downtime allows for self-reflection, growth, and recharging. Resources MentionedBook: Memories, Dreams, Reflections by Carl JungBook: The Middle Passage by James HollisStudy: George Land’s NASA creativity study, revealing that 98% of five-year-olds demonstrate genius-level creativityQuote: Maya Angelou’s insight on how people remember how you make them feel Call-to-ActionIf this episode inspired you to reconnect with joy and curiosity, please share it with someone who could use the encouragement. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to help us reach more listeners navigating midlife transitions. Every episode is complemented with a weekly newsletter so sign up for our SubStack at maninthemiddleshow.com Connect with UsWatch on YouTube Listen on Apple Listen on Spotify Sign up for the Newsletter

    53 min
4.4
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Man in the Middle Show with Kevin & Joe Are you a middle-aged man feeling trapped in your life? Stuck in a relationship, career, health situation, or financial rut that leaves you unfulfilled? Do you find yourself asking, "Is this it? Is it me? Is there more?" You're not alone, and the Man in the Middle Show is here to prove it. Join Kevin and Joe, two regular guys living in the "middle", as they dive deep into the challenges, triumphs, and existential questions that plague men in midlife. This isn't your typical self-help podcast – it's a raw, honest conversation between friends who've been there, done that, and are still figuring it out. Meet Your Hosts: Kevin at 54, he's a bald, bionic entrepreneur with a metal heart valve and 20 years in the "bonus round" of life. A former stand-up comic turned business owner, Kevin's journey includes: - 25 years of marriage - Raising two newly adult children - A near-death experience and open-heart surgery at 35 - Navigating major career shifts and life transitions Joe is The 42-year-old "regular guy" with an extraordinary story: - 15 years sober after a 13-year battle with addiction - High school dropout turned successful restaurant industry leader and now COO in digital marketing - Father to a teenager and expecting a newborn (talk about a midlife shake-up!) - Proof that it's never too late to turn your life around Why Listen? Real Talk, No BS... Kevin and Joe aren't therapists or gurus – they're guys just like you, sharing their experiences and struggles without filters. You're Not Alone! Discover that those feelings of emptiness, confusion, and restlessness are normal and part of the midlife journey for many men. Diverse Perspectives are critical. With their vastly different backgrounds and life experiences, Kevin and Joe offer unique insights into common midlife challenges. Inspiration to Ask Bigger Questions. Instead of easy answers, you'll be motivated to dig deeper and rediscover what truly matters to you. A Safe Space for Men. Finally, a place where you can hear open, honest discussions about the topics men often feel they can't talk about. Practical Wisdom. Learn from the hosts' successes and failures as they navigate relationships, career transitions, health scares, and major life changes. Finally... some Humor and Heart. Expect laughs alongside the deep stuff – because sometimes, you've got to find the funny in life's challenges. The Man in the Middle Show isn't about having it all figured out. It's about embracing the messy middle, finding meaning in the struggle, and realizing that your best years might still be ahead of you. Whether you're feeling lost, looking for a change, or just want to hear from guys who get it, Kevin and Joe are here to bring you into the middle of the conversation. You're not above, you're not below – you're right there with them, part of a community of men facing midlife head-on. Tune in and discover: - Strategies for reigniting passion in your relationships and career - How to navigate major life transitions with grace (or at least a sense of humor) - Ways to redefine success and fulfillment on your own terms - The power of vulnerability and authentic male friendships - Tools for managing stress, health concerns, and the infamous midlife crisis Don't let society tell you how to age or what your life should look like. Join Kevin, Joe, and a growing tribe of men who are rewriting the rules of midlife, one honest conversation at a time. Subscribe to the Man in the Middle Show w/ Kevin & Joe because midlife doesn't have to be a crisis. It can be your awakening. New episodes drop weekly. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Remember... You're not stuck. You're not alone. And there's definitely more to life – let's find it together.

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