If The Public Only Knew- Behind Every Success, a Story Worth Telling

Gary Sinderbrand
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If the Public Only Knew is a podcast that takes you beyond the headlines and surface-level success stories to uncover the real journeys behind today’s most influential CEOs, founders, and business leaders. Hosted by Gary Sinderbrand, a seasoned professional with decades of experience in the financial and business worlds, the show has evolved from its original focus on exposing behind-the-scenes truths about the financial community to a broader exploration of entrepreneurship, leadership, and growth. Each episode features in-depth conversations with trailblazers who candidly share their origin stories—the ideas that sparked their ventures, the challenges they faced early on, and the pivotal moments that defined their paths. Gary’s thoughtful and direct interview style invites guests to open up about the false starts, missteps, and tough decisions they’ve made along the way. Listeners get an unfiltered look at what it really takes to build a business, from navigating uncertainty to staying true to a vision even when the odds feel stacked against you. Through these conversations, Gary uncovers the lessons learned and insights gained from years of experience in the trenches. The stories go beyond glossy success narratives, instead highlighting the resilience, adaptability, and creativity required to overcome obstacles and build lasting impact. Whether it’s a founder sharing the humbling moment they almost gave up, a CEO explaining how they rallied their team after a major setback, or a leader revealing the personal values that drive their decisions, each episode is designed to inspire and educate. If the Public Only Knew is more than a business podcast; it’s a platform for authentic storytelling. The show offers listeners the opportunity to learn directly from people who have been through the highs and lows of building something meaningful. Entrepreneurs, aspiring leaders, and anyone interested in the human side of business will find actionable takeaways, fresh perspectives, and the reassurance that failure is often part of the process. Join Gary Sinderbrand each week as he digs into the untold stories behind success and explores the real journeys of those shaping industries and communities. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s truly like to start, grow, and lead a business, If the Public Only Knew will give you the insights you need—and the inspiration to keep going.

  1. 4d ago

    Nate Littlewood: From Wall Street Analyst to Founder's Co-Pilot

    After a decade dissecting other people's balance sheets on Wall Street, Nate Littlewood walked away, bootstrapped a seven-figure e-commerce business, and discovered the hardest skill in business isn't finding good ideas — it's ignoring 95% of them. He joins Gary Sinderbrand to unpack what changes when you stop judging companies from the outside and have to build one yourself. In this episode, Gary and Nate Littlewood discuss: Sell-side equity research and the buy-side pressure behind ratingsLeaving a secure finance career for entrepreneurshipKickstarter as pre-sales, capital, and a customer baseFounder "shiny object" addiction and the case for focusFractional CFO work: frameworks, trust-building, and month-to-month terms Key Takeaways: Comfort is not the same as fulfillment. A career can be objectively excellent and still be the wrong one, especially if you never chose it deliberately in the first place.Leaving certainty feels like free fall — right up until the parachute opens and you finally see how much else was out there.Crowdfunding isn't just money. Pre-selling a product buys you capital, a first customer base, and a deadline that forces an imperfect version into the market.The founder's love of learning new skills is also the founder's biggest liability; a constant dopamine rush from acquiring capabilities can masquerade as progress.Knowing where you don't belong is as valuable as knowing where you do. Excelling at the analytical half of the CEO role is a good reason to become the co-pilot rather than the pilot. "No one's going to, you know, really criticize you for having a buy and getting it wrong, but having a sell and getting that wrong is, you know, there are big repercussions to that." — Nate Littlewood About Nate Littlewood: Nate started his own eCommerce brand in 2017 and bootstrapped it from a $40K Kickstarter campaign into a 7-figure business. He has sold millions of dollars worth of product through Amazon, Shopify, and Wholesale, and worked with vendors, suppliers, co-packers, and 3PLs both domestically and abroad. He also got an MBA and, prior to getting into entrepreneurship, had a 9-year career at a Global Investment Bank. Nate is a Lead Mentor for an accelerator program called Food Future Co based in New York and an Advisor for the Startmate Program in Australia. He has worked with dozens of early-stage founders and helped prepare them for their next investment round. In his spare time, he loves camping, biking, and pretty much anything that involves food (cooking, eating, and exploring!) Connect with Nate Littlewood:   Website: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Nate Littlewood: From Wall Street Analyst to Founder's Co-Pilot

  2. Oct 21

    Daniela Jines: From Bolivian Courtrooms to the Science of Happiness

    She left a law career in Bolivia after realizing the justice system only served the privileged — and went on to study happiness at the PhD level. In this episode, Daniela Jines makes the data-backed case that joy isn't a soft perk but the most reliable engine of productivity, retention, and human connection. In this episode, Gary and Daniela Jines discuss: Growing up between poverty and shelters in BoliviaLeaving law for human rights and happiness scienceThe measurable business case for happy culturesMicro-changes vs. radical organizational overhaulsSurf Break: co-living, connection, and relearning community Key Takeaways: Happiness isn't a "hippy thing" — the data shows a happy culture lifts productivity by 37% and cuts sick days by 42%.Organizations driven purely by success do succeed, but the fight-or-flight engine burns out at roughly the three-year mark.The brain is wired for survival, which is why people cling to toxic jobs and relationships: familiar feels safer than unknown.Change sticks when it's small. Light, ventilation, scent, soft music, pets, family photos, a two-minute breath break every twenty minutes — none of it wastes time, and all of it compounds.The more successful someone becomes, the more isolated they tend to be; relearning connection is often the growth that matters most. "We can verify clearly that if you have a happy culture, you can grow your productivity by 37%. And this is not me making it up." — Daniela Jines About Daniela Jines: As an Organizational Happiness Expert with over 20 years of experience, Daniela has guided organizations across South America, Europe, and Asia in transforming their workplaces into dynamic environments of peak productivity and efficiency. By integrating cutting-edge insights from neuroscience and the transformative power of art, she crafts tailored solutions that foster employee well-being, engagement, and performance. Her approach has resulted in measurable improvements, such as a 25% increase in team collaboration, a 30% reduction in employee burnout, and a 40% boost in overall company morale. Passionate about creating lasting positive change, she empowers organizations to cultivate thriving cultures where innovation and creativity flourish.  Whether through leadership development workshops or customized team-building programs, her commitment to sustainable success helps businesses achieve both immediate and long-term results. With a track record of turning workplace challenges into opportunities for growth, she is dedicated to ensuring that every organization she works with achieves its full potential. Connect with Daniela Jines:   Website: https://happyorganizations.org/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniela-jines-90b701170/  Book (For Those Who Have a Job and Are Not Happy... Yet): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/for-those-who-have-a-job-and-are-not-happy-yet-daniela-jines/1148117592  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Daniela Jines: From Bolivian Courtrooms to the Science of Happiness

  3. Oct 14

    Oscar Trimboli: Coding How We Listen to Transform Leadership

    Listening isn’t just a soft skill—it’s a system you can code, measure, and use to transform how teams perform. In this episode, you’ll hear how one pivotal moment at Microsoft sent Oscar Trimboli on a journey to decode listening, redesign meetings, and change the way leaders communicate forever. In this episode, Gary and Oscar Trimboli discuss: The origin story of “coding how to listen” at MicrosoftMeasuring listening: share of voice, turn-taking, and curiosityDesigning better meetings: purpose, process, and participationEngaging introverts and unlocking silent perspectivesRelevance vs. repetition in leadership messaging and behavior change Key Takeaways: One courageous piece of feedback about how you listen can completely redirect a career and reveal an overlooked superpower.Listening can be quantified through data points like share of voice, turn-taking ratios, and question types, giving leaders a clear mirror on how their meetings actually run.Great meetings start by clarifying purpose and asking participants what would make it a good conversation, aligning everyone’s attention from the outset.Introverts often contribute the deepest synthesis when invited to speak from an external perspective—like a customer, competitor, or board member—and given time to prepare.Repeating a message isn’t the problem; failing to make it relevant to where people are in the project or in their lives is what causes them to tune out. "The right conversation at the wrong time is still the wrong conversation." — Oscar Trimboli About Oscar Trimboli: Oscar Trimboli is an author, host of the Apple Award-winning podcast Deep Listening, and a sought-after keynote speaker. Along with the Deep Listening Ambassador Community, he is on a quest to create 100 million deep listeners in the workplace.  Through his work with chairs, boards of directors, and executive teams, Oscar has experienced first-hand the transformational impact leaders can have when they listen beyond words. He believes that when leadership teams focus their attention and listening, they will build organizations that create powerful legacies for the people they serve – today and, more importantly, for future generations. Oscar is a marketing and technology industry veteran who has worked for Microsoft, PeopleSoft, Polycom, and Vodafone. He consults with organizations, including American Express, AstraZeneca, Cisco, Google, HSBC, IAG, Montblanc, PwC, Salesforce, Sanofi, SAP, and Siemens. He is the author of How to Listen – Discover the Hidden Key to Better Communication – the most comprehensive book about listening in the workplace, Deep Listening – Impact beyond words, and Breakthroughs: How to Confront Assumptions. Oscar loves his afternoon walks with his wife, Jennie, and their dog Kilimanjaro. On the weekends, you will find him playing Lego with his grandchildren. Connect with Oscar Trimboli:   Website: https://www.oscartrimboli.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oscartrimboli/  Book (How To Listen): https://www.oscartrimboli.com/howtolisten/  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Oscar Trimboli: Coding How We Listen to Transform Leadership

  4. Oct 12 ·  Bonus

    Richard Watts: Why Generic AI Outreach Gets Ignored

    Can AI make outreach feel genuinely personal—or does it just make generic messages more convincing? In this conversation, a bestselling author reacts to a new AI prospecting tool, explains why formulaic pitches fall flat, and explores how expert knowledge could become personalized, on-demand coaching. In this episode, Gary and Richard Watts discuss: AI-powered prospect matching for financial advisorsJungian archetypes and personality-based outreachWhy generic book-related pitches miss the markAI coaching built from an expert’s body of workTurning knowledge into a business advantage Key Takeaways: Personalization only works when it reflects real, current knowledge—not just details pulled from someone’s public profile.If outreach sounds like a template, even a carefully researched one, it can blend in with the noise.A genuine connection or referral can create a stronger opening than a cold pitch.An expert’s body of work can become more useful when people can ask it questions and get tailored guidance.Technology may be easier to build than ever, but meaningful expertise is still what makes it valuable. “Well, it's been out a month, so you know, double national bestseller. I'm not ready to be hearing that my book is stale yet, you know.” — Richard Watts About Richard Watts: As personal advisor and legal counsel to the super wealthy, Richard Watts spends his workdays within the castle walls of America’s most successful families. Called on to guide his clients through some of the most intimate and difficult decisions they have to make, his primary passion is conveying the wisdom of life through his practice, lectures, and writings. Richard is an attorney and founder of Family Business Office ®, a family office legal and consulting firm in Orange County, California. He is a national bestselling author, renowned speaker, and contributor to national publications to spread his positive message of making your family strong. A resident of Laguna Beach, California, Richard’s passions include traveling with his wife, Debbie, and family, skiing in the local mountains, swimming, playing the piano, composing music, and sitting in a local coffee shop with friends, talking about subjects that really matter. He is the proud father of his three sons: Aaron (wife Rene), Todd (wife Stephanie), and Russell, and has three granddaughters: Maclane, Lucy, and Chandler, and two grandsons: Bennett and Ford. Connect with Richard Watts:   Website: www.richardwatts.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-watts-author  Book: https://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Redefined-Create-Impact-Money/dp/B0GMRFB3ZP/ref=sr_1_1   To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Richard Watts: Why Generic AI Outreach Gets Ignored

  5. Oct 7

    Darren Tompkins: From Military Police to AI-Driven Recruiting Entrepreneurship

    A former Army MP and oil & gas technologist walks away from W-2 life to build an AI-powered recruiting firm that actually respects both companies and candidates. In this conversation, he shares how military discipline, volatile markets, and bad recruiters shaped his mission to do hiring better, faster, and more ethically. In this episode, Gary and Darren Tompkins discuss: Military police service, leadership, and promotionsTransition from enlisted to officer and into civilian lifeOil and gas career volatility and post-Harvey turning pointBuilding an AI-forward recruiting firm and processCulture fit, scams, and the future of work and entry-level roles Key Takeaways: A structured military background can build resilience, leadership, and a bias for performance that translates powerfully into entrepreneurship.Career paths are rarely linear; administrative delays, missed opportunities, and industry shocks can nudge you into entirely new sectors and business models.Volatile industries like oil and gas can pay extremely well, but the boom-and-bust cycles often push high performers to seek more control through entrepreneurship.Effective recruiting goes far beyond job boards—it demands deep understanding of the client’s world, cultural fit, social signals, and long-term succession planning.AI is becoming a force multiplier in recruiting and business operations, but it still requires strong human judgment, ethical guardrails, and relationship-building to work well. "People leave for two reasons, man. They leave for money, or they leave for better culture." — Darren Tompkins About Darren Tompkins: Darren Tompkins is the Founder and CEO of Vader-Rey Companies, a Texas-based powerhouse made up of three divisions: Vader-Rey Recruiting, Vader-Rey Engineering Contractors, and Vader-Rey Virtual Professionals. They’re not just filling jobs — they’re building high-impact teams, deploying elite contract talent, and supporting businesses with remote virtual staffing that actually moves the needle. Whether it’s placing top-tier engineers on billion-dollar projects, providing turnkey recruiting solutions, or helping companies scale with offshore virtual professionals, Vader-Rey brings grit, speed, and precision to every client engagement. Connect with Darren Tompkins:   Website: https://vaderrey.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-tompkins-21b86814/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61577139333819  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vaderreycompanies/  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Darren Tompkins: From Military Police to AI-Driven Recruiting Entrepreneurship

  6. Sep 30

    George Haymaker III: Rewiring the Brain After Addiction and Entrepreneur Burnout

    A high-performing entrepreneur hits rock bottom at 52, then rebuilds his life by decoding how the brain really works. In this episode, you’ll hear how childhood trauma, relentless drive, addiction, and neuroscience collide to reveal a practical path to real fulfillment. In this episode, Gary and George Haymaker III discuss: Childhood instability, trauma, and early anxietyEntrepreneurship as a search for worth, agency, and significanceChronic nervous system activation, addiction, and hitting bottomRecovery, AA, community, and the slow path to changeNeuroscience, core psychological needs, and brain pattern rewiring  Key Takeaways: Early instability, trauma, and unmet needs can wire the brain toward anxiety, low self-worth, and a compensating drive to prove value through achievement.Entrepreneurship can become a coping mechanism, offering autonomy and significance, while silently keeping the nervous system in a chronically activated, unsustainable state.Lasting recovery begins not with a clear roadmap, but with a decision to let go of old patterns, accept help, and commit to small, daily steps in a safer community.Fulfillment emerges when core psychological needs—autonomy, equality, skillfulness, significance, stability, and togetherness—are consistently met through healthy patterns, not temporary relief.The brain resists change until it has enough real-world evidence that new behaviors are safe, rewarding, and less costly, which is why incremental practice and “proving it” to the brain are essential. "The brain will not learn anything new when it's threatened." — George Haymaker III   About George Haymaker III: George Haymaker III is a former serial entrepreneur turned neuroscience-based coach and educator. After building multiple businesses across manufacturing, metals distribution, telecommunications, restaurants, and consumer packaged goods, he hit rock bottom in his early 50s following decades of coping with anxiety and a chronically over-activated nervous system through alcohol and drugs. His recovery journey through rehab and Alcoholics Anonymous sparked a deep curiosity about why certain methods worked, leading him to immerse himself in psychology, addiction science, and ultimately earn a graduate degree in neuroscience. Today, he helps people understand how their brains are patterned, how unmet psychological needs drive unhelpful behaviors, and how to systematically rewire those patterns to achieve genuine fulfillment.   If this conversation resonated, George offers a short Brain Performance Insight Call — a no-pressure conversation to understand how your brain may be working against you and where friction is coming from: https://calendly.com/gthaymaker/executive-performance-conversation?month=2026-09    Connect with George Haymaker III:  Website: https://www.heirpreparedness.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgehaymaker/     To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/   Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    George Haymaker III: Rewiring the Brain After Addiction and Entrepreneur Burnout

  7. Sep 23

    Peter Maher: Fixing Credit by Looking at Cash Flow, Not a Three-Digit Score

    A single credit card mistake haunted his financial life for over a decade—until he decided to rebuild the system that judged him. In this episode, we follow Peter Maher’s journey from firefighting and roofing to launching Flote, a cash-flow–based alternative to traditional credit scoring. In this episode, Gary and Peter Maher discuss: Dropping out to pursue firefighting and wilderness rescueDoor-to-door roofing sales and learning margins the hard wayHow one defaulted credit card shaped a decade of financial lifeFrom payroll and virtual cards to buy now, pay later fintechBuilding Flote: cash-flow underwriting, AI, and serving the “unscorable” Key Takeaways: A single early mistake with credit can shape your financial life for years, but it doesn’t have to define your long-term potential or behavior.Traditional credit scores often ignore real-time affordability and cash flow, leaving many capable, responsible earners shut out of fair financing.Some of the most powerful entrepreneurial decisions come from playing out the true “worst-case scenario” and realizing you can live with it.Bringing a team into the problem, inviting criticism, and building ideas together creates stronger solutions and deeper buy-in than top-down directives.The most valuable long-term asset in modern lending isn’t the user-facing product—it’s the risk and decisioning model that can fairly assess people others overlook. "If you can be okay with it not working out, and it's something that you really want to do, make the jump. But like, if you're really not okay with what could go wrong, probably don't do it." — Peter Maher About Peter Maher: Peter builds and scales businesses from 1–10, partnering with founders and operators to drive real, measurable growth. He operates at the intersection of go-to-market, partnerships, and revenue, working hands-on with early-stage and under-optimized companies to create systems that actually scale. Currently, Peter is an independent growth partner across fintech and local services, bringing deep experience in structured capital, risk, and payments to real-world business challenges. He’s an active investor and operator, leading demand generation, pricing strategy, and sales systems that have helped businesses grow multiple times over. Previously, Peter architected and led U.S. market entry for Flote, Ovanti’s consumer installment platform, expanding access to short-duration credit through cash-flow underwriting and structured capital strategy. Over more than 15 years, he has worked across business lending, consumer finance, BNPL, open banking, and payments, including senior leadership roles at Zip Co and Capital One. Peter partners with a select group of founders and operators on go-to-market, partnerships, and revenue growth. He is based in Golden, Colorado, where he also serves as a volunteer firefighter and department officer. Outside of work, he spends as much time as possible outdoors and is a big believer in keeping life, health, and people first. Connect with Peter Maher:   Website: https://www.atom.com/name/Flote   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getflote/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GetFlote/  X: https://x.com/GetFlote  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    Peter Maher: Fixing Credit by Looking at Cash Flow, Not a Three-Digit Score

  8. Sep 17 ·  Bonus

    John Yeager: How Courage Keepers Help Us Move from Fear to Action

    When fear shows up—on the field, in the boardroom, or in a hospital waiting room—who helps you step forward anyway? In this episode, we explore how “courage keepers” create agency, unlock brave decisions, and turn everyday fear into meaningful action. In this episode, Gary and John Yeager discuss: Early lessons in courage from lacrosse and sportAgency, parenting, and formative leadership momentsCrisis counseling, psychological safety, and helping others tell their storyEight pathways to courage and the dance between fear and loveMoral courage, leadership, and recovering after a life-changing health scare Key Takeaways: Courage often begins in ordinary moments—like saying yes to an unexpected role—that later become templates for how we handle fear and pressure.Giving people true agency (“it’s your call”) can be a powerful catalyst for confidence, resilience, and long-term leadership growth.Creating psychologically safe spaces, staying in someone’s emotional “space,” and letting them tell their own story are foundational to helping others find their courage.Brave leadership is inseparable from moral courage; it requires taking real risks in service of meaningful, noble goals rather than clinging to comfort or status.Courage is not a rare, heroic event but an ongoing process of choosing approach over avoidance, guided by values, curiosity, self-compassion, and presence in the moment. "Whether a person's an entrepreneur, a leadership consultant, a lacrosse player, whatever they do, when you have agency, there's a level of confidence in there that you can believe in yourself and you can move forward." — John Yeager About John Yeager: John is an educator, coach, and storyteller who has dedicated his career to studying the motivations behind human action and the mechanics of courageous leadership. As the Chief Education Officer at Yeager Leadership, he works across the corporate, healthcare, education, community, and athletic sectors to help leaders embrace courage as a daily, repeatable process. Driven by a mission to empower others, he combines extensive research with decades of experience to foster grit, vulnerability, and growth within teams and organizations. A veteran teacher and a graduate of the Master of Applied Positive Psychology program at the University of Pennsylvania, he is also the author of The Coaching Zone: Next Level Leadership in Sports. He roots for the underdog and those striving to live life well. Courage Keepers: A Guide to Brave Leadership and Inspiring Bold Action in Others is the product of his deep dive into how leaders can model and mentor bravery in times of uncertainty. Connect with John Yeager:   Website: https://thecouragekeepers.com/  LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/courage-keepers | https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-yeager-8699115/    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/the.courage.keepers | https://www.facebook.com/john.m.yeager  To get in touch with Gary: Website: https://archematch.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/ Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    John Yeager: How Courage Keepers Help Us Move from Fear to Action
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If the Public Only Knew is a podcast that takes you beyond the headlines and surface-level success stories to uncover the real journeys behind today’s most influential CEOs, founders, and business leaders. Hosted by Gary Sinderbrand, a seasoned professional with decades of experience in the financial and business worlds, the show has evolved from its original focus on exposing behind-the-scenes truths about the financial community to a broader exploration of entrepreneurship, leadership, and growth. Each episode features in-depth conversations with trailblazers who candidly share their origin stories—the ideas that sparked their ventures, the challenges they faced early on, and the pivotal moments that defined their paths. Gary’s thoughtful and direct interview style invites guests to open up about the false starts, missteps, and tough decisions they’ve made along the way. Listeners get an unfiltered look at what it really takes to build a business, from navigating uncertainty to staying true to a vision even when the odds feel stacked against you. Through these conversations, Gary uncovers the lessons learned and insights gained from years of experience in the trenches. The stories go beyond glossy success narratives, instead highlighting the resilience, adaptability, and creativity required to overcome obstacles and build lasting impact. Whether it’s a founder sharing the humbling moment they almost gave up, a CEO explaining how they rallied their team after a major setback, or a leader revealing the personal values that drive their decisions, each episode is designed to inspire and educate. If the Public Only Knew is more than a business podcast; it’s a platform for authentic storytelling. The show offers listeners the opportunity to learn directly from people who have been through the highs and lows of building something meaningful. Entrepreneurs, aspiring leaders, and anyone interested in the human side of business will find actionable takeaways, fresh perspectives, and the reassurance that failure is often part of the process. Join Gary Sinderbrand each week as he digs into the untold stories behind success and explores the real journeys of those shaping industries and communities. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s truly like to start, grow, and lead a business, If the Public Only Knew will give you the insights you need—and the inspiration to keep going.

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