Pondering Play and Therapy Podcast

Julie and Philippa
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In a world where play can be seen as frivolous or unnecessary, Julie and Philippa set out to explore its importance in our everyday lives.Pondering play and therapy, both separately but also the inter-connectedness that play can in its own right be the very therapy we need. Julie and Philippa have many years of experience playing, both in their extensive professional careers and their personal lives. They will share, ponder, and discuss their experiences along the way in the hope that this might invite others to join in playfulness. 

  1. 3H AGO

    EP58 Exploring the Journey to becoming a Clinical Psychologist. A conversation with Oliver

    In this episode of 'Pondering Play and Therapy,' host Philippa welcomes Oliver, a trainee clinical psychologist. They discuss the extensive and multifaceted training path for clinical psychologists in the UK, which includes clinical placements, research, and academic work. Oliver explains the importance of evidence-based practice, the variety of therapeutic approaches like CBT, DBT, and CFT, and the practical challenges faced during training. He shares his diverse experiences working in acute and urgent care, CAMHS, and other settings. The conversation also highlights the competitive nature of gaining entry to doctoral programs and the ongoing efforts to diversify the field of clinical psychology. Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    49 min

  2. FEB 20

    EP57 Healing Journeys; In Conversation with Kim Golding

    In this episode of Pondering Play and Therapy, host Philippa interviews Kim Golding, CBE, a clinical psychologist, author, and expert in dyadic developmental psychotherapy (DDP) with over 30 years of experience. Kim shares her unconventional journey into psychology, her long tenure in the NHS, and her work with children affected by early relational trauma. The discussion covers the evolution of attachment theory, the challenges of working with foster and adoptive families, and the development and importance of the PACE model (Playfulness, Acceptance, Curiosity, and Empathy) in creating supportive environments for traumatised children. Kim also highlights the importance of long-term support for caregivers and introduces her upcoming book, aimed at making DDP approaches accessible through stories and visuals. https://kimsgolding.co.uk/ Creating Loving Attachments - https://amzn.eu/d/eeSBaCe Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    52 min

  3. FEB 13

    EP56 Towards a Play-Based Future - Eugene Minogue's Journey with Play England

    The State of Play in England: A Deep Dive with Eugene Minogue, Executive Director of Play England Welcome to this week's episode of Pondering Play and Therapy with Philippa and special guest Eugene Minogue, the executive director of Play England. In this episode, Eugene delves into the history, challenges, and current state of play in England. The conversation discusses Eugene's volunteer role in Play England, its evolution from the Children's Play Council, and the impacts of government policies on play opportunities. Eugene elaborates on Play England's new 10-year strategy to restore a play-based childhood and the organization's efforts in policy advocacy, including significant wins such as closing the smoking ban loophole in playgrounds and gaining statutory protection for play spaces in the National Planning Policy Framework. Eugene shares personal stories, insights into parkour, plans for future legislative changes, and the importance of community involvement in advocating for children's right to play. Tune in to learn about the importance of play and how we can work together to bring back a play-centered society. https://www.playengland.org.uk/what-we-do https://www.playengland.org.uk/newsblog/consultation-response-proposed-reforms-to-the-national-planning-policy-framework-nppf https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/proposed-reforms-to-the-national-planning-policy-framework-and-other-changes-to-the-planning-system/proposed-reforms-to-the-national-planning-policy-framework-and-other-changes-to-the-planning-system#scope-of-consultation 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:29 The Role and History of Play England 01:34 Challenges and Changes in Play Policy 05:15 Eugene's Passion and Background 05:28 Parkour and Play Advocacy 10:15 Play England's Strategic Reset 14:45 Policy Wins and Future Goals 33:01 The Importance of Investing in Children's Play 34:26 The Shift from Play-Based to Phone-Based Childhoods 34:45 The Role of Artificial General Intelligence in Future Childhoods 35:19 The Need for Systemic Changes to Support Play 36:19 Political Efforts and Challenges in Promoting Play 38:58 The Role of the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Play 46:57 The Vision for a Play-Based Childhood by 2035 48:35 Strategies for Promoting Play in Deprived Communities 01:01:43 Encouraging Community Involvement in Promoting Play 01:02:32 Conclusion and Call to Action 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:29 The Role and History of Play England 01:34 Challenges and Changes in Play Policy 05:15 Eugene's Passion and Background 05:28 Parkour and Play Advocacy 10:15 Play England's Strategic Reset 14:45 Policy Wins and Future Goals 33:01 The Importance of Investing in Children's Play 34:26 The Shift from Play-Based to Phone-Based Childhoods 34:45 The Role of Artificial General Intelligence in Future Childhoods 35:19 The Need for Systemic Changes to Support Play 36:19 Political Efforts and Challenges in Promoting Play 38:58 The Role of the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Play 46:57 The Vision for a Play-Based Childhood by 2035 48:35 Strategies for Promoting Play in Deprived Communities 01:01:43 Encouraging Community Involvement in Promoting Play 01:02:32 Conclusion and Call to Action Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    1h 3m

  4. FEB 6

    EP55 The Essence of Play - Nurturing Development in Children

    In this episode of 'Pondering Play and Therapy,' Philippa and Julie explore the concept of 'just playing' in therapeutic contexts. They discuss the fine line between play and therapy, sharing personal anecdotes and insights on how play can serve different roles for children. They reflect on the pressure therapists face to meet goals within limited sessions and emphasise the importance of allowing children the freedom to guide the play. They also touch on building agency, establishing safety in relationships, and the therapeutic value of unstructured play. Window of Tolerance - Dan Seigel - https://www.nicabm.com/trauma-how-to-help-your-clients-understand-their-window-of-tolerance/ Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    56 min

  5. JAN 30

    EP54 The Heart of Justice - Child First Approach. A conversation with Ruth Hayles

    In this episode of 'Pondering Play and Therapy,' Philippa interviews Ruth Hayles, service lead for Contextual Safeguarding and Youth Justice, about her 18-year career working across children's services. Ruth shares insights on her journey, highlighting the importance of early intervention, youth justice, and building trusting relationships with children and families. She explains concepts such as early help, child-first practice, and restorative justice. Ruth also discusses innovative programs like the 'fresh air approach,' emphasising creative and therapeutic methods to engage and support youth in the justice system. The episode underscores the significance of relational practice, trauma-informed care, and community involvement in transforming the lives of vulnerable children. Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    54 min

  6. JAN 23

    EP53 Behind the Quiet Child - Play Therapy for Young Carers; An Interview with Frankie

    In this episode of 'Pondering Play and Therapy,' host Julie interviews Frankie, a recent graduate with a master's degree in play therapy from Roehampton University. They discuss Frankie's research on play therapy for young carers—children under 18 who provide emotional or physical care for a family member. The conversation explores the challenges young carers face, such as the burden of care, silenced voices, and systemic gaps in support. Frankie shares insights from interviews with play therapists and highlights the importance of early therapeutic interventions, advocacy, and awareness in supporting young carers. The episode emphasises the critical need for increased visibility and targeted support for these children within educational and therapeutic settings. Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    58 min

  7. JAN 16

    The Therapeutic Treasure Box: Insights from Dr. Karen Treisman

    Understanding Trauma in Children: Insights from Dr. Karen Treisman | Pondering Play and Therapy Welcome to this week's episode of Pondering Play and Therapy with Philippa, featuring Dr. Karen Treisman, a clinical psychologist, author, and MBE award recipient. Dive deep into the world of trauma as Dr. Treisman elaborates on different types of trauma—cultural, intergenerational, and more—while highlighting the significance of trauma-informed approaches. Discover how trauma impacts children and families, and explore the nuances between being trauma-aware and trauma-informed. Dr. Treisman also discusses her extensive work, including her renowned books and practical resources designed to support children and families through their trauma recovery journey. Whether you're a parent, educator, or professional, this episode offers valuable insights and tools for fostering healing and resilience. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 00:47 Understanding Trauma: Definitions and Impacts 27:09 Creative Ways to Engage with Children 29:27 The Importance of Relational Health Website: https://safehandsthinkingminds.co.uk/ Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    50 min

  8. JAN 9

    EP51 - Stories of self-doubt and Imposter Syndrome; Julie interviews Philippa

    In this episode of 'Pondering Play and Therapy,' Julie interviews Philippa Kelly about her career journey in play therapy with children and families. Kelly reflects on her year-long co-hosting experience, her struggles with self-doubt, and how she overcame significant challenges. Key highlights include her path from a troubled school life to becoming a social worker, completing a family therapy degree, and ultimately, a practitioner at Gateway Psychological Services. The episode delves into her valuable lessons from mentors and experiences, emphasising the importance of communication, compassion, and critically evaluating therapeutic methods. Philippa candidly shares her ongoing struggles with imposter syndrome, offering a relatable perspective for fellow practitioners. Send a text Pondering Play and Therapy | Instagram, Facebook, | Linktree

    1h 19m
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In a world where play can be seen as frivolous or unnecessary, Julie and Philippa set out to explore its importance in our everyday lives.Pondering play and therapy, both separately but also the inter-connectedness that play can in its own right be the very therapy we need. Julie and Philippa have many years of experience playing, both in their extensive professional careers and their personal lives. They will share, ponder, and discuss their experiences along the way in the hope that this might invite others to join in playfulness. 

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