That One Thing

Rianne Roggema

Welcome to That One Thing - THE anti-b******t entrepreneurship podcast. If you are searching for magical 5-figure months, early retirements, or 4-hour work weeks, this is not your podcast. Being an entrepreneur is not always easy: you always try to figure out how to take the next hurdle, face the next challenge and fix the next crisis. In this podcast, we learn from the best of the best how they nailed That One Thing - and we are taking you along for the ride.

  1. #22 Poland: Why every founder needs a hobby (Konrad Pawlus)

    05/29/2025

    #22 Poland: Why every founder needs a hobby (Konrad Pawlus)

    Entrepreneur #22 out of 100: Konrad Pawlus from Krakow, Poland Konrad Pawlus didn’t grow up with early access to tech: he got his first laptop at 17. But that didn’t stop him from co-founding SALESmanago, one of Europe’s largest and most influential marketing automation platforms, and successfully exiting the company as CTO. As I mentioned in the last episode, I recorded this conversation in Krakow, where I was hosting a congress. I asked around for local founders to meet, and someone recommended Konrad. Her previous boss, she said, had exited his company and now owned a huge Barbie collection. It turned out it was a bit more nuanced than that, but ofcourse I was curious. Twenty-four hours later, we were recording this episode. We talk about the mental load of entrepreneurship and how Konrad found a way to balance that pressure: by collecting LEGO minifigures. In true founder style, he automated the entire process. Eventually, the collection outgrew his house and became a full-blown museum. In this episode, we explore the one thing that helps him step away from the daily intensity of building companies: 💡 Why every founder needs a hobby💡 How stepping away from work can create space for new ideas💡 And why Konrad insists his museums are not businesses (even though they’re run like one) A sharp and personal conversation about focus, energy, and the unexpected benefits of building something just for yourself.

    30 min

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Welcome to That One Thing - THE anti-b******t entrepreneurship podcast. If you are searching for magical 5-figure months, early retirements, or 4-hour work weeks, this is not your podcast. Being an entrepreneur is not always easy: you always try to figure out how to take the next hurdle, face the next challenge and fix the next crisis. In this podcast, we learn from the best of the best how they nailed That One Thing - and we are taking you along for the ride.