Intrinsically Ordered

Cade Bradley
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Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

  1. Oct 21

    I'm an Agnostic. I Read Every Religion's Holy Book. | River Ward's Journey from Christian Apologetics to Agnosticism

    What happens when you stop learning about other religions from Christian apologists and actually read their sacred texts? In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I'm joined by River Ward (@SiennaRiverWard), a comparative religion content creator who has spent years studying the Bible, Quran, Bhagavad Gita, Tao Te Ching, Book of Mormon, and other foundational religious texts. Raised in conservative evangelical Christianity, River originally began studying other religions to defend her Christian faith. But the more she read, the more her understanding of God, religion, and belief began to change. We discuss what Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Daoism actually teach, how religious traditions understand God differently, and why the beliefs of religious practitioners don't always reflect their sacred texts. We also explore the limitations of Christian apologetics, the differences between religion and cults, the relationship between belief and belonging, and why River continues to find beauty in religion despite identifying as agnostic. Follow River Ward: Instagram: @sienna.river.ward YouTube: @SiennaRiverWard 00:00 Comparative Religion Online 01:23 What Counts as Religion 04:29 From Apologetics to Anthropology 10:00 Reading the Core Texts 14:26 Paradigm Shifts in Daoism 21:24 Confucius to the Gita 26:10 Revisiting the Quran 31:53 Text Versus Tradition 36:57 Mormonism and Upanishads 43:10 What Does Belief Mean 47:44 Defining God and Experience 53:39 Whats Next in Her Journey 58:09 Charity as the Heart To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  2. Oct 14

    Can You Be Catholic And A Feminist? | Salina.Bear On Birth Control and Women's Rights

    In this episode, I sit down with Catholic feminist, lay theologian, and spiritual director-in-training Salina Bear to talk about her unlikely journey from Reformed Protestantism, through deconstruction, and ultimately into the Catholic Church. Salina shares how growing up with Calvinist ideas about God led her to question Christianity from an early age, why she eventually stepped away from organized religion, and how an existential crisis during COVID unexpectedly brought faith back into her life. She also tells the story of attending Eucharistic adoration for the first time convinced she needed to become Catholic. We also get into some of the questions that have made Selena's online work controversial: Can you be a Catholic feminist? What does the Church actually teach about primacy of conscience? Can faithful Catholics disagree with Church teaching? Is contraception an infallible teaching? And why does online Catholicism often look so different from the Catholicism people actually encounter in their parishes? Finally, we talk about her marriage to an Orthodox Christian, spiritual trauma, deconstruction and reconstruction, online traditionalism, and why Salina is training to become a spiritual director for people who want to heal from harmful experiences with Christianity without necessarily abandoning their faith. 00:00 Meet Salina Bear 02:49 Growing Up Reformed 03:53 Calvinism and God Image 07:29 Teen Faith and Doubts 09:02 Church Leadership Disillusionment 13:43 Stepping Away to Deconstruct 15:01 COVID Panic and Return to Prayer 20:41 First Mass and Liturgy Surprise 22:33 Adoration Changed Everything 26:47 Catholic and Orthodox Marriage 35:53 Two Traditions Marriage 39:51 Conscience and Autonomy 41:40 Online Trad Toxicity 44:24 Birth Control & Forming Conscience 56:46 Reading Church Authority 01:03:13 Becoming Spiritual Director To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  3. Oct 7

    Why Aquinas' Five Ways Fail: Two Ex-Catholics Debunk JesusAndWhatnot's "How The Communist Manifesto Proves God's Existence"

    In this episode of Apostate’s Imprimatur, Colin and I react to Jesusandwhatnot’s video titled "How the Communist Manifesto Proves God's Existence," explanation of Aquinas’s famous Five Ways: the arguments from motion, efficient causality, contingency, degrees of perfection, and final causality. We dig into act and potency, infinite regress, first causes, divine simplicity, Aristotle, physics vs. metaphysics, and the assumptions hiding underneath these arguments. Even if we grant some version of a “first cause” or “unmoved mover,” how do we get from there to an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving personal God, much less the God of Christianity? Along the way, we ask whether Aquinas’s arguments describe reality, whether confusing someone with technical philosophical language actually proves anything, and why arguments that have been debated for centuries are still sometimes presented as obvious and uncontested proofs of God. Noah's original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUOZcbNeKIE 00:00 Who Is Jesusandwhatnot 09:33 Aquinas Five Ways Intro 10:26 Motion Proof Explained 13:47 Potency and Ontology Debate 26:10 Causation Chain and Regress 31:50 Physics Pushback and Forces 34:03 Nothing Truly Begins 36:32 From Prime Mover to God 39:46 Special Pleading and Language 41:02 Perfection Smuggled In 52:29 Efficient Cause Argument 54:23 Physics vs Metaphysics Definitions 01:01:59 Infinite Regress and Cosmology 01:06:18 Contingency and Nothingness 01:08:09 Third Way Rehash 01:12:58 Logic Above God 01:16:07 Blendered Proofs Critique 01:17:22 Degrees of Perfection Setup 01:20:49 Fire Causes Heat Debunked 01:23:13 Nominalism and Genus Problems 01:25:26 Goodness Category Errors 01:34:00 Begging the Maximum Cause 01:35:44 Fifth Way Explained 01:36:59 Teleology Meets Evolution 01:39:10 Ends Are Human Uses 01:45:38 Special Pleading Intelligence 01:49:36 Modern Physics Pushback 01:54:33 Summa Ethics Detour 01:57:52 Thomism As Party Trick To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  4. Sep 26

    Debunking: "Does Porn Make You Gay?" | What Psychological Studies Actually Shows About @JesusAndWhatnot's Claim

    After seeing Catholic apologist Noah ( @Jesus.andwhatnot )  argue that pornography may cause homosexual desires, I decided to dig into the actual research. In this video, I work through more than two dozen academic sources covering sexual orientation, sexual identity formation, pornography use, childhood abuse, correlation vs. causation, sexual fluidity, and sexual orientation change efforts. I also explain some of the basic research concepts that can help us distinguish a provocative correlation from evidence that one thing actually causes another. As a gay former traditional Catholic apologist myself, I also want to talk about why these claims matter beyond an academic debate. Ideas about sexual orientation being caused or changed by particular behaviors can quickly overlap with claims underlying conversion therapy and sexual orientation change efforts. My sources: https://gayextrad.substack.com/p/debunking-with-actual-studies-does Noah's original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXtY2xa9lFQ 00:00 Does Porn Make You Gay? 01:17 It's Not a Study 01:34 Survey Not Study 01:58 Orientation Is Complex 03:44 Identity Attraction Behavior 05:54 Porn Survey Problems 12:32 Correlation Not Causation 14:43 How To Test It 17:17 Puberty And Timing 18:34 What The Data Show 21:54 Abuse Claim Reversed 28:04 Hypothetheory Critique 29:44 Disordered Language Harm 31:28 Conversion Therapy Harms 32:38 Causality And Methods 35:55 Expert Consensus Matters 41:12 Motte Bailey To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  5. Sep 23

    No, The Resurrection Is Not A Historical Fact - Part 2 - Responding to Trent Doherty on Pints With Aquinas

    Is the resurrection of Jesus actually a historical fact or does the argument only work if you begin with Christian assumptions? In part two of our deep dive into the historical case for the Resurrection, Colin and I examine some of the most popular arguments used by Christian apologists: the claim that the apostles wouldn’t die for a lie, the supposed eyewitness accounts of the risen Jesus, the 500 witnesses mentioned by Paul, the early creed in 1 Corinthians 15, and attempts to use probability and Bayes’ theorem to argue that the Resurrection is historically likely. We look at what we actually know about the deaths of the apostles, how the resurrection narratives developed across the Gospels, what Paul does—and doesn’t—claim to have witnessed, and whether early belief in the Resurrection is the same thing as evidence that it actually happened. 00:00 Recap Minimal Facts 02:20 Escaping Apologetics Maze 03:55 Apostles Die for Lie 11:11 Roman Guards Doubts 24:10 500 Witnesses Problem 26:49 Women at the Tomb Motif 29:08 Doubting Thomas and Belief 31:32 Memory and Legend Growth 35:46 Mythic Tropes and Other Gospels 39:57 Paul and the 500 Witnesses 50:25 Visions and Bereavement Experiences 54:48 Skepticism About 500 56:52 Pauline Creed Timeline 01:02:37 Memory And Mythmaking 01:09:44 God Assumption Debate 01:11:20 Additive Evidence Claim 01:13:35 What Resurrection Means To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  6. Sep 16

    Coming Out Made Me A Stronger Man: Gym Culture, Masculinity, and Entrepreneurship | @SigurdAuthentic

    In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with  @SigurdAuthentic , founder of Gay Unmasked, to hear his coming out story and explore what it actually takes to accept that you're gay. https://www.skool.com/gay-unmasked-4697/about Sigurd opens up about recognizing his attraction to men as a teenager, falling for his male best friend, wrestling with stereotypes about gay men, and eventually reframing what being gay meant to him. We talk about masculinity, strength, CBT, shame, self-acceptance, dating, coming out to family and friends, and why building a life around purpose became so important after coming out. We also dig into the philosophy behind Gay Unmasked, Sigurd's growing community for gay men, and his argument that coming out shouldn't be about asking other people for permission to be yourself. 00:00 Coming Out Is Ongoing 02:15 Early Signs and Denial 04:19 Growing Up Around Masculinity 11:16 Accepting It at 18 13:25 Mac and First Real Feelings 18:16 Reframing Gay Identity 21:51 CBT and Strength Mindset 25:44 First Confession to a Friend 30:01 Coming Out to Dad and Friends 31:46 Tinder Screenshot Plot Twist 36:01 Strength as Shield 36:29 Gym as Emotional Outlet 38:40 Life Moves On Mindset 40:39 Unmasking and Alan Watts 47:06 After Coming Out Purpose 49:21 Redirecting the Fight 55:56 Dating Men and Identity 01:05:44 Community and CBT Coaching 01:11:33 Success Stories and Farewell To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  7. Sep 9

    We Visited the Biggest Catholic Cult in America: The SSPX in St Mary's, Kansas (With Atheist Church Audit @Heliocentric and Mormons @AllThoseInFavor)

    I took an atheist and a Mormon on a road trip to St. Mary’s, Kansas to experience the SSPX firsthand. We attended a traditional Latin Mass, toured the massive Immaculata, talked with members of the community, and tried to understand what draws people to this intensely traditional form of Catholicism. Coming from three very different religious backgrounds (ex-traditional Catholic / current atheist, former Pentecostal / current atheist, and practicing Latter-day Saint), we each walked away with very different reactions. We talk about the beauty (and boredom) of the Latin Mass, Catholic tradition, relics, hell, Vatican II, the SSPX’s conflict with Rome, how outsiders are treated, and whether this community actually succeeds at its stated mission of saving souls. 00:00 Heliocentric & All Those In Favor 01:41 What Is the SSPX 03:24 Expectations Going In 05:03 Road Trip to St Marys 06:43 First Sight of the Church 08:22 Drone Shots and Suspicious Locals 10:12 Medieval Dinner and Hotel 11:34 Mass Morning and Naming the Building 13:35 Inside the Immaculata First Impressions 16:48 Silence Sunlight and Getting Shushed 18:41 Latin Mass Reactions 22:11 Relics and Ranking Spirituality 30:27 SSPX Identity and Excommunication Denial 33:28 Latin Mass Confusion 34:10 Sermon Advice: Read Books 39:24 Hellfire Afterlife 41:21 Communion Rail Awkwardness 45:59 Tour Guides And Lunch 52:55 Trad Culture And Politics 54:27 Human Stories And Mary 59:17 Seeker Friendly Critique 01:05:08 Final Takeaways Next Steps To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  8. Sep 9

    Is the Resurrection of Jesus a Historical Fact? Atheists Respond to EVERY Resurrection Claim - Part 1 - (Trent Dougherty on Pints With Aquinas Reaction)

    Can history actually establish that Jesus rose from the dead? In this episode of Atheist Imprimatur, Colin and I take on one of the central arguments in Christian apologetics: that the Resurrection isn't merely something Christians believe by faith, but something we have good historical reasons to accept as fact. We examine the “minimal facts” approach associated with Gary Habermas, claims about the empty tomb, eyewitness testimony, early Christian belief, and the role our assumptions about God and miracles play in evaluating the evidence. More importantly, we ask a basic question that often gets lost in apologetics: What can historians actually establish—and where does historical evidence end and faith begin? This is Part 1 of our very long attempt to answer that question. 00:00 Why This Resurrection Video 07:28 Apologetics as Reassurance 11:13 Faith Versus Evidence 13:06 Appeal to Authority Problems 23:22 God Exists Then Miracles 27:42 Supernatural Explanations Spiral 32:23 Is God Really 50/50? 34:11 Historians and Resurrection Claims 42:16 Easter Meditation Not Proof 44:38 Habermas and Minimal Facts 52:38 Three Es and Empty Tomb 56:46 Sherlock Holmes Historiography 01:00:57 Empty Tomb Sources and Context 01:04:17 Empty Tomb Objections 01:08:42 Why Not Produce the Body 01:10:53 Acts and Early Movement 01:13:35 Roman Religious Tolerance 01:16:17 Three Explanations Critique 01:21:35 Tomb Worship Skepticism 01:25:19 They Wouldnt Die for a Lie To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

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Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

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  • Creator
    Cade Bradley
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    90
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Cade Hanson Media LLC
  • Show Website
    Intrinsically Ordered

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