Down Fracture- A Podcast for Talkin' Jaws

Drs. Wasson and Bobek
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Standing firmly somewhere between the worst and best jaw surgery podcasts of all time, we bring you Down Fracture, A Podcast for Talkin' Jaws. Down Fracture is intended for Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeons and other healthcare professionals interested in learning about jaw surgery. Topics will include Orthognathic surgery, TMJ surgery, Obstructive Sleep Apnea Surgery, and more. This podcast is hosted by Drs. Bobek and Wasson whose practices are limited to Orthognathic, TMJ, and OSA Surgery.

  1. Jun 23

    AAAHC Accreditation for Oral Surgery Offices With Angie Murphy

    In this episode, Dr. Bobek and Dr. Wasson are joined by Angie Barker Murphy of Murphy Healthcare Consultants, who has worked in oral surgery compliance and accreditation since 1999. Angie helped one of the earliest oral surgery practices pursue AAAHC certification for in-office jaw surgery and has since built a consulting practice helping oral surgery offices through the accreditation process. Topics covered in this episode: - What AAAHC accreditation is and how it differs from standard dental or oral surgery licensing requirements - Office-based surgery accreditation vs. the ASC route and when each makes sense - Whether accreditation can be used to negotiate facility fees with insurance companies - What the accreditation process actually involves: timelines, site visits, case observation, and documentation - Staff onboarding, training documentation, and clinical competencies under AAAHC standards - Common things practices are already doing but not documenting, and common blind spots such as CLIA waivers and medication handling - The role of a consultant vs. attempting the process independently - Approximate costs: AAAHC fees, consultant fees, and what to budget - Ongoing maintenance and reaccreditation every 3 years - Quality improvement studies and how to make them meaningful for oral surgery practices - How Dr. Bobek's practice experienced the process and what changed afterward Murphy Healthcare Consultants can be reached through their website once live, or via the email below. 📬 Questions or topic suggestions: downfracturedpodcast@gmail.com The Down Fracture Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. All opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and their guests.

    55 min

  2. Jun 17

    What CT Superimpositions Actually Tell Us About Jaw Surgery Outcomes

    In this episode, Dr. Bobek and Dr. Wasson discuss CT superimpositions in orthognathic surgery: what they are, when they are useful, and why more surgeons are not routinely doing them. Topics covered in this episode: - What superimposition means in the context of jaw surgery outcomes and how it differs from just reviewing a post-op CT - Uses beyond outcome review: condylar hyperplasia monitoring, assessing post-surgical changes, and evaluating growth - Superimposing pre-op to post-op vs. plan to executed result and why the latter is harder to access - What the data actually shows when you overlay your plan against what happened in the OR - How mandible splits, Dalpont positioning, proximal segment seating, and inferior border shape look on superimposition vs. what surgeons assume - Accuracy of stock vs. custom hardware in AP advancement and what that means for planning - The case for doing this routinely in residency and early practice - Revision surgery: why superimposing pre-op, post-op, and the new plan together is one of the most useful tools in that consultation - Managing patient expectations in revision cases using imaging data - Practical barriers: software access, planning company file ownership, and how long it actually takes 📬 Questions or topic suggestions: downfracturedpodcast@gmail.com The Down Fracture Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. All opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and their guests.

    45 min

  3. Jun 9

    Adjuncts to MMA | Genial Tubercles, Septoplasty, and Segmental LeFort

    In this episode, Dr. Bobek and Dr. Wasson start with a brief clarification on the transmucosal pterygomaxillary disjunction technique from last week, then move into a discussion on what they actually add to a standard MMA beyond the double jaw surgery itself.Topics covered in this episode:- Transmucosal pterygomaxillary disjunction: a quick visual clarification with imaging- Nasal work during MMA: septoplasty, turbinate management, bone grafting at the piriform aperture, and where each host has landed on how much to do- The difference between nasal work done during a LeFort vs. a formal standalone septoplasty- Chin surgery and genial tubercle advancement: when to add it, how far forward is too far, and sequencing- Carrying the tubercles with the chin as a single piece vs. separating them as two segments- Troubleshooting tubercle fixation when things do not go as planned intraoperatively- Tonsils and tongue reduction at the time of MMA: why both hosts avoid combining these- Segmental LeFort as an airway adjunct independent of occlusal indications- Mandibular widening with midline osteotomy combined with MMA- How patient goals and surgical planning conversations shape the final treatment algorithm📬 Questions or topic suggestions: downfracturedpodcast@gmail.comThe Down Fracture Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. All opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and their guests.

    51 min

  4. Jun 3

    Controversial Takes in Jaw Surgery | Part 1

    In this episode, Dr. Bobek and Dr. Wasson try something a little different, taking turns presenting hot takes and arguing opposite sides. The discussion surfaces useful clinical nuance along the way. Topics covered in this episode: - Aligners vs traditional braces for surgical orthognathic cases: bracket safety in the OR, setup efficiency, post-op relapse, and whether provider comfort is driving the preference for braces - Sagittal split osteotomy cut depth: whether 3D imaging and known nerve position justifies taking saw cuts deeper than just through cortex, and where that might prevent bad splits - Mandible fixation after BSSO: the case for always using a plate and positional screws together, hardware removal rates, and how each host approaches fixation based on movement size and bone quality - Transmucosal pterygomaxillary disjunction vs traditional technique: where the approach came from, the theoretical benefits, and whether the concerns about blood supply and mucosal tears hold up in practice 📬 Questions or topic suggestions: downfracturedpodcast@gmail.com The Down Fracture Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. All opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and their guests. #OrthognathicSurgery #JawSurgery #OMFS #OralSurgery #AlignersVsBraces #DownFracturePodcast #TalkingJaws #BSSO #SagittalSplit #ClearAligners #SurgicalOrthodontics #MedicalPodcast #DentalPodcast #JawSurgeryDebate #HotTakes

    52 min

  5. May 19

    Overcorrection, Relapse, and Surgical Planning in Jaw Surgery

    In this episode, Dr. Bobek and Dr. Wasson discuss overcorrection in orthognathic surgery, covering how their thinking on the topic has shifted with experience and what they currently do in practice for different jaw movements. Topics covered in this episode: Anterior open bite overcorrection and when segmenting the maxilla is worth consideringClass 2 correction: whether leaving patients tight still makes senseClass 3 correction and how much AP overcorrection is reasonableTransverse overcorrection in maxillary widening cases and dental vs. skeletal relapseVertical overcorrection in maxillary augmentation casesAsymmetry correction and the risks of overcorrecting to the opposite sideThe impaction-to-advancement ratio and why both hosts have moved away from itAccuracy of virtual surgical planning and what superimpositions tend to showCustom hardware and whether it changes the relapse pictureHow dental relapse and skeletal relapse differ and why that distinction matters for planning📬 Questions or topic suggestions: downfracturedpodcast@gmail.com The Down Fracture Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. All opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and their guests.

    41 min

  6. May 13

    Arthroscopy, Open Joint Surgery, And Other TMJ Myths With Dr. Moe Hakim

    In this episode, Dr. Bobek and Dr. Wasson are joined by Dr. Moe Hakim, an oral and maxillofacial surgeon based in Arlington, Virginia. Dr. Hakim's practice focuses on TMJ surgery and orthognathic surgery, and he has been publishing on arthroscopic outcomes and PRF in the TMJ space. Topics covered in this episode: Whether open joint surgery still has a place in contemporary TMJ practiceArthrocentesis vs. arthroscopy: are they equivalent, and when does it matterLevel 3 arthroscopy and discopexy: indications, outcomes, and why Dr. Hakim does it less than he used toPRF for painful clicks and crepitus: how he uses it and what his outcomes look likeThe disc displacement obsession and why disc position may matter less than we thinkAcute vs. chronic closed lock and how the duration changes the surgical approachThe role of orofacial pain specialists in the TMJ care pathwayRegional and institutional variation in how TMJ surgery is perceived and practicedWhy "surgery is a last resort" framing is worth examining Dr. Hakim's Instagram: @thetmjandjawsurgeon 📬 Questions or topic suggestions: downfracturedpodcast@gmail.com The Down Fracture Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. All opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and their guests.

    1h 12m

  7. May 6

    TMJ Total Joint Prosthetic Design and Complications with Dr. Mercuri

    In this episode, Drs. Wasson & Bobek are again joined by Dr. Lou Mercuri to get into the weeds on the TMJ prosthetic materials, metal testing, and current protocols for prosthetic joint infections.

    1h 15m

  8. Apr 28

    Bridging the Gap Between ENT and Jaw Surgery for Sleep Apnea with Dr. Michael Olson

    In this episode, Dr. Bobek and Dr. Wasson are joined by Dr. Michael Olson, an otolaryngologist and facial plastic and reconstructive surgeon at Mayo Clinic with a fellowship in sleep surgery. Dr. Olson is one of a small number of ENTs who consistently performs orthognathic surgery for OSA, which makes for an interesting conversation about how the two specialties approach sleep surgery differently and where they overlap. Topics covered in this episode: - Why the Stanford Step Protocol developed the way it did and how surgical risk perception has shaped referral patterns - Who benefits from soft tissue surgery, Inspire, and jaw surgery and how to think about each - Age considerations for orthognathic surgery vs. airway stimulation - Inspire tolerance issues and what that means in practice - Maxillary expansion for sleep apnea: appropriate use vs. overuse - Residual sleep apnea after MMA and next steps - Dr. Olson's approach to septoplasty before LeFort - Nasal congestion management post-LeFort - Practical notes on ENT and OMFS collaboration in the sleep space 📬 Questions or topic suggestions: downfracturedpodcast@gmail.com The Down Fracture Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. All opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and their guests.

    1h 2m
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Standing firmly somewhere between the worst and best jaw surgery podcasts of all time, we bring you Down Fracture, A Podcast for Talkin' Jaws. Down Fracture is intended for Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeons and other healthcare professionals interested in learning about jaw surgery. Topics will include Orthognathic surgery, TMJ surgery, Obstructive Sleep Apnea Surgery, and more. This podcast is hosted by Drs. Bobek and Wasson whose practices are limited to Orthognathic, TMJ, and OSA Surgery.

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