Any Job Can Be A Climate Job

Louisa Henry

Join our movement to make every job work for our planet. New ideas to help you take action at work, strengthen your career, and help the environment.

  1. Data Centers Pay For His Kids' School. He Decarbonizes Them.

    Jun 22

    Data Centers Pay For His Kids' School. He Decarbonizes Them.

    Find the customers that could churn. Do the math. This episode is part of Any Job Can Be a Climate Job, a podcast exploring how people bring climate impact into everyday work, even in roles that aren't labeled 'climate.' Ryan Sholin lives in Loudoun County, Virginia, the heart of what locals call "data center alley." He drives past 20 data centers on the way to the grocery store, and those data centers fund a big share of the property taxes that pay for his kids' schools. His job is to help decarbonize that same infrastructure. He got there through a commercial career, not a technical one, and this conversation is about finding the climate lever inside a sales role and making the business case in language leadership actually responds to. In this episode, we cover The customer who ran their site through a green-website checker, got an "F," and emailed asking how to get an "A" How he redirected an employee-resource-group budget to fund six weeks of carbon accounting training Making the climate case to leadership through customer churn risk: "do the math, find the customers that could churn" Grid carbon intensity explained with a smoothie, and why one grid operator "comes out orange" The moment at Climate Week he realized he could already do the climate jobAbout Ryan Ryan Sholin is a strategic account manager at Electricity Maps, where he works on decarbonizing the digital economy. He spent about seven years in commercial roles at Automattic's WordPress VIP and co-led its sustainability employee resource group. He lives in Loudoun County, Virginia, and serves on a Green Software Foundation committee. Who this episode is for People in sales, account management, and other non-technical roles who don't see how they connect to climate Tech and software workers curious about the carbon cost of the internet Anyone trying to make a climate case to leadership in business terms Employees who want to put an ERG or an internal budget to work for impact━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Chapters 0:00 Welcome to "data center alley" 1:06 Meet Ryan: account manager at Electricity Maps 2:57 Living in Loudoun County, Virginia 5:17 How data centers fund the county and its schools 8:04 The job before climate: Automattic and WordPress VIP 10:12 The first spark: "performance is sustainability" 13:02 Reigniting a stalled sustainability group 14:45 The customer who got an "F" and wanted an "A" 16:27 Doing the math: customer churn as the business case 21:11 The ERG budget hack: training the team in carbon accounting 24:24 What stalled, and what he'd do differently 33:24 Leaving Automattic and the pay cut 36:54 Why Electricity Maps and "Never Search Alone" 42:56 How Electricity Maps works: the grid "smoothie" 47:47 Should individuals care when they charge? 50:19 2026 prediction: batteries 53:01 Wrap-up and three takeaways ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Resources mentioned Electricity Maps (Ryan's company) Green Software Foundation Green Web Foundation (the website carbon checker behind the "F" grade) Building Green Software by Anne Currie, Sarah Hsu, and Sara Bergman (O'Reilly) "How Better Performing Websites Can Help Save the Planet" by Jack Lenox OPF Academy / 1.5 Academy Never Search Alone by Phyl Terry Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson Form Energy Follow Ryan on LinkedIn and BlueskyDisclaimer: This episode is for informational purposes only. Views are the guest's own. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎧 Listen to the podcast YouTube Apple Podcasts Substack━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ✨ Work with me For advising, coaching, speaking: kidoki.com ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎙 Credits Produced and hosted by Louisa Henry Edited by Alex Leff Music by Run Riot Run Logo by Cassidy Frost ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🤝 Sponsor or partner with the show: partnerships@anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.com Know someone who thinks their job has nothing to do with climate? Send them this episode.

    55 min
  2. No mandate. No law. Just scientists greening up their labs.

    May 20

    No mandate. No law. Just scientists greening up their labs.

    James Connelly is an architect who ended up running My Green Lab, the sustainability certification now adopted by many of the world's largest pharma companies. In this episode, we get into how and why scientists are stepping up to certify their labs, without a required law or mandate. Why James believes life sciences will be the first industry to separate growth from carbon impact.Real life examples of pharma employees who paved the trail for their companies, and got promoted along the way.Why certification works well for scientists (and builders).How to stay focused on the end goal of reducing environmental impact (instead of drowning in numbers and excessive reporting).How James taught himself about climate through a junior-high research project, why he became an architect, and how that eventually set him up to become CEO of My Green Lab.-- ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Cold open 01:29 Meet James and My Green Lab 02:14 What labs find on their first assessment 04:38 The freezer that uses as much energy as two homes 05:38 Why certification works for scientists 07:37 How it scales from one champion to a whole lab 12:37 The AstraZeneca supplier cascade 16:39 Pernilla, Andrew, and getting promoted for sustainability work 20:05 From architect to CEO 24:21 Leading scientists when you're not one 27:33 ESG, DEI, and political headwinds 32:06 Why a nonprofit raised venture capital 35:43 If not science, who else? 38:15 Reporting vs. action 43:28 Travel, anxiety, and self-care 47:42 Where to find My Green Lab -- 🔗 Resources My Green LabAmbassador Program (free crash course)Accredited Professional program ($25 student / $75 commercial)Annual online conferenceContact James: james@mygreenlab.org -- 🎧 Watch & Listen to the podcast YouTube Apple Podcasts 🗞️ Sign up for the newsletter 🤝 Partnerships ⁠partnerships@anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.com⁠ ✨ Work with me: For speaking, coaching, and workshops: kidoki.com Know someone who thinks their job has nothing to do with climate? Send them this episode.

    50 min
  3. How Mastercard Cut $28M of Digital Waste + 3 Real Playbooks

    Apr 28

    How Mastercard Cut $28M of Digital Waste + 3 Real Playbooks

    Mastercard saved $28M cutting digital waste. Three more companies in this episode did the same. This episode is part of Any Job Can Be a Climate Job, a podcast exploring how people bring climate impact into everyday work, even in roles that aren't labeled 'climate.' If you're in tech, reducing emissions might be easier than you think. While it accounts for 4% of global emissions (and rising), most of it is wasteful by default, not by necessity. No one's bothered to look and make a shift. In this episode, Nolwenn and I dive into examples from 4 companies, talk about what they did, and what the impact was. Leboncoin (French Craigslist) - 85% of Leboncoin's half-billion weekly API calls were returning 404 errors. A two-week sprint cut total calls by 72%. Raptor Maps (solar field software) - App had grown so heavy that workers were buying new phones to run it. An offline-first redesign cut data load by 99%. Brussels Environment (government website) - Hired eco-designers, set new baselines (page size, load time, eco-score), and rebuilt their site to be both lighter and more usable. Mastercard (GreenOps program) - Saved $28 million and cut data center electricity by 40% in two years by shifting workloads to cleaner regions, right-sizing, and turning off unused instances.The playbook is free, and the case studies are reusable. You don't need permission to start. What will you do to make the world a better place today? About Nolwenn Nolwenn Godard is the founder of Carbon 2C and co-author of the Climate Product Leaders Playbook. She previously led product at PayPal and worked inside California state government, where she helped push climate considerations into the GenAI executive order. Her full story is in Part 1. Who this episode is for Software engineers who want to do climate work without leaving their current job Product managers looking to bake sustainability into their roadmap CTOs and engineering leaders who need a credible, cost-defensible sustainability story Climate-curious tech workers who feel stuck or unsure where to start Anyone who wants to understand the actual environmental cost of running AI at scale━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Chapters 0:00 Carbon vs cost: why workforces respond differently 0:32 Welcome: a playbook episode for tech teams 2:14 The 4% problem: tech as much emissions as aviation 3:22 Leboncoin: 85% of half a billion API calls were 404s 9:39 Raptor Maps: 99% data reduction for solar field workers 15:01 Brussels Environment and the search bar story 19:22 Mastercard's $28M GreenOps story 24:28 GreenOps vs FinOps vs DevOps 26:05 You don't need permission 29:09 Water, AI data centers, and the closed loop myth 34:25 How Nolwenn uses AI (and the AI Wattch extension) 37:21 Self-care and eco-anxiety 38:33 Where to find the free playbook ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Resources mentioned Climate Product Leaders Playbook (free) Carbon 2C Green Software Foundation Green IO podcast/conference GreenPixie GreenPT AI Wattch: Chrome extension | GitHub Greenspector Nolwenn Godard on LinkedInFor the full resource list, see the show notes on Substack. A note on the digital emissions stat: ICT is estimated at 1.5-4% of global GHG emissions today; one academic projection estimates this could rise to ~14% by 2040 under business-as-usual growth (Belkhir & Elmeligi, 2018). Disclaimer: This episode is for informational purposes only. Views are the guest's own. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎧 Listen to the podcast YouTube Apple Podcasts Substack━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ✨ Work with me For speaking, workshops, and leadership programs: kidoki.com ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎙 Credits Produced and hosted by Louisa Henry Edited by Alex Leff Music by Run Riot Run Logo by Cassidy Frost ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🤝 Sponsor or partner with the show: partnerships@anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.com Know someone who thinks their job has nothing to do with climate? Send them this episode.

    40 min
  4. From Climate Doom to the Redwoods: Alex Sherry on Teaching Hope, One Kid at a Time

    Apr 14

    From Climate Doom to the Redwoods: Alex Sherry on Teaching Hope, One Kid at a Time

    Sometimes saving the planet starts with a banana slug on your face.Alex Sherry is a 23-year-old naturalist at Mission Springs Outdoor Education in the Santa Cruz Mountains. We talk about what happens when you put city kids in the redwoods for a week, what it's like to grow up inside the climate crisis instead of watching it approach, and how small moments outside can stick with kids for years.This episode is for teachers, coaches, parents, nannies, or anyone who works with kids. You have more influence than you realize, and Alex has ideas for how to use it. Fun, educational, and just a little outside the comfort zone. In this episode: The one-week transformation from "afraid of dirt" to eating edible plants off the trailA food waste system that took one group from 28 pounds to 4 in a weekThe Thanksgiving table moment that changed Alex's majorHow being outside every day is what actually calms her eco-anxietyWhat any adult who works with kids can do starting tomorrow ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ About Mission Springs:Website: https://missionspringsoe.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/missionspringsoe/ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Chapters:00:00 Cold open: The banana slug club01:00 Why this conversation stuck with me03:13 The Oakland kids transformation09:41 Comfort zones and how kids grow at camp13:23 The Banana Slug Club Challenge15:50 Food waste: 28 pounds to 424:28 Screen time and Gen Alpha26:28 From climate doom to the redwoods32:48 Advice for anyone who works with kids35:35 What sticks in you?37:29 My closing reflection ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎧 Listen to the podcast ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🗞️ Sign up for the ⁠newsletter⁠ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🤝 Partnerships ⁠⁠partnerships@anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.com⁠⁠ ✨ Work with me ⁠⁠For speaking, coaching, and workshops⁠ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Know someone who thinks their job has nothing to do with climate? Send them this episode. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━🎙 CreditsProduced and hosted by ⁠Louisa Henry⁠ | Edited by ⁠Alex Leff⁠ | Music by ⁠Run Riot Run⁠ | Logo by ⁠Cassidy Frost⁠

    39 min
  5. She Wrote California's AI Policy in 60 Days | with Nolwenn Godard

    Mar 31

    She Wrote California's AI Policy in 60 Days | with Nolwenn Godard

    The tech industry talks about AI's carbon footprint. Nolwenn Godard says the real issue is resource limits: energy, water, rare earth minerals. "Tech doesn't want any limit, but the world has limits, nature has limits." Nolwenn spent 13 years at PayPal, where she pitched a carbon calculator that was too early for a US conversation. She went on to help write California's first executive order on Generative AI in just 60 days, fighting to get climate language into the policy. Today she runs Carbon 2C, helping software companies find the massive waste hiding in their own codebases. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ In this episode, we cover: The physics of why an AI query uses dramatically more energy than a Google searchHow she got climate language into California's GenAI executive order in 60 days, and the moment she asked "Am I the only one thinking of this here?"Why companies are going quiet on climate ("green hushing") even when they still want to actHer argument that resource limits, not just carbon, are the real environmental cost of AIWhere to start if you're a product manager, engineer, or CTO who wants to find the climate lever in your current role━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ About Nolwenn Godard Nolwenn Godard helps turn tech jobs into climate jobs. After leadership roles at PayPal, SoFi, and California's Office of Data and Innovation, she founded Carbon 2C, her sustainability consultancy for software companies. She co-authored Sustainable by Design: A Playbook for Product Managers, leads Green IO US, and co-leads the SF chapter of the Green Software Foundation. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Chapters 0:00 Intro2:07 Growing up with climate at the dinner table4:34 From France to Silicon Valley6:09 PayGreen: the climate idea PayPal wasn't ready for11:34 Traditional AI vs. generative AI and the real cost of AI video13:26 Writing California's GenAI executive order in 60 days19:49 "Am I the only one thinking of this here?"23:02 Founding Carbon 2C25:46 Do companies care about green software?27:10 Green hushing: the new greenwashing29:25 Can change happen without regulation?33:38 MasterCard: $28M savings, 47% electricity cut36:17 Where to start if you're in tech39:30 Moral ambition and the tech industry45:52 Where to find Nolwenn━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Resources mentioned Nolwenn on LinkedInCarbon 2C - Nolwenn's consultancyClimate Product Leaders Playbook (free)Resources for a Climate Career (see Tech Stack)Green Software FoundationGreen IO podcastElectricity MapsAI Watch (browser extension for real-time AI carbon/water tracking)terra.do (climate education)Climate Fresk: a 3 hour workshop to get you up to speedCalifornia Executive Order N-12-23Disclaimer: This episode is for informational purposes only. Views are the guest’s own, and nothing here should be taken as professional advice. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎧 Listen to the podcast YouTube Apple Podcasts ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🗞️ Sign up for the newsletter https://anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.substack.com/ 🤝 Partnerships partnerships@anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.com ✨ Work with me For speaking, coaching, and workshops ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎙 Credits Produced and hosted by Louisa Henry Edited by Alex Leff Music by Run Riot Run Logo by Cassidy Frost

    48 min
  6. The Invisible Climate Job Inside Every Building

    Mar 17

    The Invisible Climate Job Inside Every Building

    Building ventilation eats 10% of all US energy — just for temperature. Most systems are on autopilot. Dr. Suresh Dhaniyala (Clarkson University, sensors on the International Space Station) explains how sensor-driven ventilation cuts energy 30-40% while improving the air we breathe. If your work touches buildings, facilities, or public health, your job can be a climate job. In this episode, we cover: Why CO2, humidity, and particulates matter more than temperature aloneThe 10% stat: what's really consuming building energy, and where the savings hideHow smart ventilation delivers better air quality AND lower energy useThe 30-40% energy savings that's already been validatedWho can start now: facilities managers, VPs of operations, building engineersThree sensors that matter: particulate matter, VOCs, CO2How NASA monitors air on the International Space StationPractical first steps: EPA AQI, indoor sensors, raising the question with your teamWho this episode is for: Facilities managers, VPs of Operations, building engineersHVAC and public health professionalsParents concerned about indoor air quality in schoolsAnyone whose work touches buildings━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Chapters 0:00 A daughter's asthma attack 0:24 Why buildings matter for climate 1:20 What fills your days? 2:49 Particles you can't see, sensors that can 3:11 Growing up in polluted southern India 4:27 How air moves through buildings 5:20 Relative humidity and why it matters 6:08 What's missing from current air monitoring 7:28 CO2 as an occupancy and infection indicator 9:38 The 10% stat: US energy for building HVAC 12:11 How better measurement reduces climate impact 13:33 Smart ventilation: better air AND lower energy 14:46 Classrooms and offices: variable occupancy 17:04 30-40% energy savings, validated 19:35 Who can start: facilities managers and VPs of operations 21:50 Seeing pollution from above: New Delhi from a plane 25:15 A daughter's asthmatic episode 28:27 Practical tools: EPA AQI, indoor sensors to buy 31:27 Three sensors that matter: PM, VOCs, CO2 31:53 Air quality on the International Space Station 34:10 ISS air: extremely clean and dirty at the same time 36:43 We all have responsibility 38:26 The invisible climate lever ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ About Dr. Suresh Dhaniyala Professor of Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering at Clarkson University. Founder of an air quality sensor startup with sensors in commercial buildings and on the International Space Station. Research focuses on airborne particulate matter and affordable sensing technologies. Resources mentioned EPA Air Quality Index (AQI): https://www.airnow.gov/South Coast Air Quality Management District (sensor performance reviews) https://www.aqmd.gov/aq-spec/evaluations/summary-tableThree sensor types to look for: particulate matter (PM), volatile organic compounds (VOCs), and CO2Disclaimer: Views are the guest's own and shared for informational purposes. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎧 Listen to the podcast Always posted here on Spotify, or: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@anyjobcanbeaclimatejobApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/any-job-can-be-a-climate-job/id1780900570Substack: https://anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.substack.com/━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎙 Credits Produced and hosted by Louisa Henry Edited by ⁠Alex Leff⁠ Music by ⁠Run Riot Run Logo by Cassidy Frost ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Sponsor or partner with the show: partnerships@anyjobcanbeaclimatejob.com Work with Louisa - coaching and advising for founders and leaders: kidoki.com Know someone who thinks their job has nothing to do with climate? Send them this episode.

    39 min
  7. Accidental Climate Win: 70,000 Gallons of Jet Fuel Saved Daily

    Mar 3

    Accidental Climate Win: 70,000 Gallons of Jet Fuel Saved Daily

    The U.S. Air Force was planning multi-million dollar combat missions on a whiteboard covered in magnets. It took three people, twelve hours every night. A product manager showed up, built a tool in 90 days, and accidentally created one of the biggest climate wins in the Department of Defense. 🌎 This episode is part of Any Job Can Be a Climate Job — a podcast about bringing climate impact into work that isn't labeled "climate." When Eric Schmidt visited the Air Operations Center in Qatar, he found three people spending twelve hours every night planning mid-air refueling missions on a magnetic whiteboard. 70% of those missions were replanned the next morning anyway, and the fix was always the same: put another tanker in the air. Getting a single tanker to altitude costs $200,000. And every gallon of jet fuel releases 20 pounds of CO2. Jason Fraser was at Pivotal Labs when the Air Force came with this problem. His team built a mission planning tool in 90 days. Twelve-hour cycles dropped to two hours; replanning to ten to fifteen minutes. Within 90 days of delivery, at least one tanker was staying grounded every day — and the emissions went with it. Jason never pitched climate. He pitched speed, efficiency, and cost — what the Air Force cared about. Climate came along for the ride. Find the overlap between what your organization needs and what the planet needs, and lead with the former.━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ In this episode, we cover: The magnetic whiteboard running billion-dollar missions — and why it kept failingWhy 70% of missions got replanned daily, and why the fix was always "another tanker"How Jigsaw got built in 90 days instead of yearsWhy leading with efficiency (not climate) was the right callEvery gallon = 20 pounds of CO2: the down pillows metaphor that makes it realThe granddaughter frame: "is the carbon cost worth the increase in temperature for my granddaughter?"━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Who this episode is for: Product managers, engineers, and ops professionals who want their work to connect to climate — without a title changeAnyone inside large institutions wondering whether change is possible from where they sitAnyone curious about how one of the world's most bureaucratic institutions learned to ship software in 90 days━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ About Jason FraserJason Fraser is an impact strategy consultant, formerly Director of Product Management and Design at Pivotal Labs' public sector division. He's worked with the U.S. Federal Government and the White House Presidential Personnel Office, and serves as a program mentor for the Earthshot Prize. Co-author of Farther, Faster, and Far Less Drama. Find him at missionratio.com. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Resources mentioned Farther, Faster, and Far Less DramaJason's websiteJigsaw case studyNATO + the tanker planning appAFRL — Air Force seeks to accelerate efficiency━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━✨ Work with mehttps://www.kidoki.com━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎙 CreditsProduced and hosted by Louisa Henry | Edited by Alex Leff | Music by Run Riot Run | Logo by Cassidy Frost━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ The views expressed are Jason Fraser's own and reflect his personal experience; nothing here should be taken as official government policy or professional advice.

    59 min
  8. You Don’t Have to Care About Climate to Make an Impact — Lizzy Kolar (Scope Zero)

    Feb 17

    You Don’t Have to Care About Climate to Make an Impact — Lizzy Kolar (Scope Zero)

    Your utility bill is a behavior-change problem (and a benefits opportunity). Lizzy Kolar explains the Carbon Savings Account and why employees actually use it. This episode is part of Any Job Can Be a Climate Job - a podcast exploring how people bring climate impact into everyday work, even in roles that aren't labeled 'climate.' ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Lizzy Kolar grew up in West Virginia, worked as an engineer, and became co-founder + CEO of Scope Zero. She shares how her experiences shaped a focus on everyday consumer behavior - because small changes, repeated at scale, add up to real impact. We go deep on Scope Zero's Carbon Savings Account (CSA): a financial wellness benefit that reimburses employees for home technology and transportation upgrades (LEDs, power strips, low-flow fixtures, ENERGY STAR appliances, and more). Lizzy explains why this works even for people who aren't climate-motivated. When the incentives make sense, people opt in, learn how they're consuming, and shift their behavior at home and at work. If you're an employee, you'll leave with a concrete next step to bring to HR. If you're a leader, you'll hear why "Scope 3, Category 7" (employee commute + work-from-home emissions) matters - and how a benefit can measure, report, and reduce it. In this episode: Why Lizzy shifted from "clean energy" to everyday behavior changeThe Carbon Savings Account and how it's like a wellness benefitWhy companies offer this: talent retention + automated Scope 3 reporting"Low-hanging fruit" upgrades (LEDs, power strips, low-flow fixtures)What "vampire loads" are and why unplugging mattersHow employees can pitch CSA internallyWho this is for: HR/Benefits leaders evaluating practical benefitsSustainability leaders tracking Scope 3 reductionsEmployees wanting to pitch new benefitsAnyone reducing household costs through efficiency━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ About Lizzy Kolar:Co-founder and CEO of Scope Zero. She holds a master's in sustainable design engineering from Stanford and a bachelor's in mechanical engineering from WVU. Former engineer at Ameresco designing energy and water efficiency upgrades for military base housing. She's leading Scope Zero's mission to reduce utility bills by $300B per year and co-created the podcast "It All Adds Up." ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Resources: Scope Zero - Lizzy's companyDOE standby power guideRewiring America calculatorThe Conundrum (book)"It All Adds Up" podcastLizzy on LinkedInDisclaimer: This episode is for informational purposes only. Views are the guest's own, not professional advice. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎧 Other platforms: YouTubeApple PodcastsSubstack ✨ Work with me 🎙 Credits:Produced & Hosted by Louisa HenryEdited by Alex LeffMusic by Run Riot RunLogo by Cassidy Frost

    50 min
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