Self Centered™ with Katie and Allie

Katie Kurtz and Allie West

If you’re done living for approval and everyone else’s needs, you’re exactly where you’re meant to be. Self Centered is about reclaiming your relationship with yourself as your home base, so your thoughts, choices, and relationships flow from clarity, self-trust, and alignment instead of guilt, fear, or external validation. Our mission is simple: to help you return to yourself and challenge the culture that taught you to abandon who you are. Together, we uncover what pulls you away from your center, so you can live in alignment with your values and co-create a world where being well and centered isn’t seen as selfish. Hosts Allie and Katie have lived the burnout, the guilt, and the people-pleasing. Now, they share real stories and practical insights to model how to come home to yourself, reclaim your power, and build relationships rooted in interdependence, not codependence. This isn’t therapy. It’s real conversation and lived experience that reveal the patterns shaping how you show up, set boundaries, and connect, both with yourself and with others. Welcome to the movement! Let’s find your center and stay there, together. © 2024–2026 Self Centered™. All rights reserved.

  1. 63. Tools to Cope, Part 2: Minneapolis, ICE, Renée Good & Alex Pretti

    4D AGO

    63. Tools to Cope, Part 2: Minneapolis, ICE, Renée Good & Alex Pretti

    After last episode’s heavy reflection on current events in the United States, Katie and Allie shift toward coping with the emotional weight of living in a divided country. They speak honestly about grief, anger, exhaustion, and the tension between hope and despair, while also stepping back to name the cultural and psychological dynamics at play, including patterns like the Drama Triangle, ego strength in our reactions, and what it takes to stay present when your world feels like it’s on fire. This episode shares tangible tools and grounding practices to help you stay regulated while navigating a difficult political climate and holding vision for a hopeful path forward. We discuss: The 10/30/60 Principle introduced by a shamanic teacher, Sierra McFeeters, of Indigenous Roots Institute "beginners mind" and other grounding practices to help you stay regulated and presenttangible ways to hold vision for a better futurehow to manage emotional flooding by prioritizing joy and being strategic about your media consumptionRESOURCES: Episode 62 Naming What We're Feeling Part 1: Minneapolis, ICE, Renée Good & Alex PrettiSierra McFeeters, Indigenous Roots InstituteHeather Cox Richardson - political historianGround News Love the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    33 min
  2. 62. Naming What We're Feeling Part 1: Minneapolis, ICE, Renée Good & Alex Pretti

    FEB 3

    62. Naming What We're Feeling Part 1: Minneapolis, ICE, Renée Good & Alex Pretti

    In this episode, Katie and Allie sit with what it feels like to watch the country fracture in real time. We speak openly about grief, anger, confusion, and the exhaustion of watching violence become normalized. The conversation reflects on recent events, including the killings of Renée Good and Alex Pretti by ICE, as well as the arrest of journalist Don Lemon, and what these moments reveal about systemic oppression, political division, and the long road ahead for meaningful change. We also reflect on how news and social media shape our understanding of current events, how dynamics like the Drama Triangle and ego strength show up in our reactions, and what it feels like to engage with people who support systems that we believe cause harm. There are no clean answers here. This conversation names the weight of the moment and the difficulty of holding grief, anger, and uncertainty while still trying to imagine a way forward. We Discuss: Our personal response to the ICE shootings of Renée Good and Alex Pretti How polarized reporting and social media echo chambers shape our perceptionsIdentifying dynamics like the Drama Triangle and ego strength in political and personal interactionsHow trauma, violence, and systemic oppression affect people across dividesReframing how to interact with people whose beliefs or political alignment don't align with your own RESOURCES: The Ego Series: Episodes 27-30The Drama Triangle: Episode 42The Codependency Series: Episodes 48-51Ground News Love the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    1h 21m
  3. 61. Centered or Not: Before He Cheats vs Flowers - What Breakup Anthems Teach Us About Reclaiming Power

    JAN 27

    61. Centered or Not: Before He Cheats vs Flowers - What Breakup Anthems Teach Us About Reclaiming Power

    In this episode, we kick off a new ongoing series, Centered or Not, which reflects on the narratives we absorb through pop culture and how those messages shape our understanding of power, healing, and self-worth. Today's exploration? Two iconic breakup anthems: "Before He Cheats" by Carrie Underwood and "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus. Katie and Allie use these two anthems to explore contrasting messages about reclaiming power after a breakup... from revenge and validation to self-love and rebuilding from within. Along the way, they reflect on how similar messaging showed up in advice many of us received growing up, via religion, and in conversations about how we’re “supposed” to move on. We Explore: How pop culture frames power as retaliation vs. self-connectionThe difference between internal and external sources of validationWhy anger can be valid without being the place we stayHow breakup narratives have evolved and how we’ve evolved with themWhat it looks like to be self-centered without becoming closed off or hyper-independent Love the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    48 min
  4. 60. You Are Not Your Mistakes: How to Let Go of the Guilt and Move On

    JAN 20

    60. You Are Not Your Mistakes: How to Let Go of the Guilt and Move On

    Have you ever looked back at a past version of yourself and thought, “I should have known better”? In this episode, we explore why we so often judge our past choices through the lens of who we are now - unpacking the difference between guilt and self-punishment, why mistakes are often coping strategies rather than character flaws, and how black-and-white narratives around “bad behavior” keep people stuck. If you’re caught replaying a past decision, struggling to forgive yourself, or feeling defined by something you’ve already taken responsibility for, this conversation invites a more compassionate, developmentally honest way of understanding your growth and yourself. In this episode, we explore: Why we judge our past selves using information we didn’t have at the time The difference between evaluating behavior and condemning identityWhy many “big mistakes” such as infidelity might actually be coping strategies shaped by context and developmentHow black-and-white narratives around mistakes keep people stuck in shameWhat gets in the way of self-forgiveness, even after you’ve done the work Love the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    42 min
  5. 59. "Why do I feel guilty when I’m not productive?": The Belief Shifts That Offered Me Peace

    JAN 13

    59. "Why do I feel guilty when I’m not productive?": The Belief Shifts That Offered Me Peace

    Have you ever slowed down, felt more settled, and somehow started feeling… guilty? In this episode, Katie explores why contentment can feel uncomfortable, why rest can trigger anxiety, and why many of us mistake peace for stagnation. Drawing from her own experience with hustle culture, productivity, religion, and healing, she unpacks her former belief that growth must always look like striving and the 3 belief shifts that helped her to uncover true peace in her growth journey. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re actually growing (or secretly falling behind) because nothing dramatic is happening, this conversation is for you. In this episode, we explore: Why guilt can show up after you slow downWhat it means when growth feels quiet instead of excitingThe discomfort of contentment after a life of strivingHow to tell the difference between peace and “falling behind”Love the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    51 min
  6. 58. Why Estrangement Reconciliation Fails Without Emotional Maturity

    JAN 6

    58. Why Estrangement Reconciliation Fails Without Emotional Maturity

    Family estrangement is often framed as a mystery or a failure, especially by the people who feel left behind. In this final episode of our estrangement series, we explore why repair so often doesn’t happen, even when adult children clearly explain what hurt them. We talk about the concept of the missing missing reasons, why parents and family members may genuinely believe no explanation was ever given, and how emotional immaturity, shame, and defensiveness make it impossible to make the changes required to repair the relationship. This episode is especially for adult children who have gone low or no contact. It’s also for anyone trying to understand why good intentions, apologies, or repeated explanations don’t lead to real change or repair. Rather than blaming or diagnosing anyone, this conversation focuses on emotional capacity and opportunities for growth. We talk about what actually makes repair possible, and why adult children are not responsible for teaching these skills to their parents. YOU'LL LEARN: Why most family estrangement comes down to harm that was never acknowledged or repairedThe difference between healthy guilt and toxic shame, and why shame blocks repairCommon ways estranged parents unconsciously minimize, reframe, or deny the real reasonsWhy repair requires emotional capacity, not pressure, guilt, or more explanationsRESOURCES: Ep. 13 The difference between guilt and shameEp. 27 Wait, is it me or their ego?Ep. 28 How defense mechanisms show up in relationshipsEp. 32 Communication styles 101Ep. 35 How to know who you can trustEp. 42 The drama triangleLove the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    1 hr
  7. 57. Why Adult Children Go No Contact: They Do Care, They Just Can’t Keep Getting Hurt

    12/30/2025

    57. Why Adult Children Go No Contact: They Do Care, They Just Can’t Keep Getting Hurt

    Family estrangement is often described as selfish, impulsive, or cruel. In this episode, we slow the conversation down and examine why those narratives miss what actually leads adult children to go no contact. We explore common myths about estrangement, including the idea that adult children do not care, are overreacting, or are following a cultural trend. Through a trauma-informed lens, we talk about attachment, emotional exhaustion, and why distance is usually a last resort after years of trying to repair, explain, and stay connected. This conversation is not about encouraging estrangement. It is about understanding why some people reach a point where protecting themselves becomes necessary. If you have ever questioned your decision to create distance, or felt misunderstood for prioritizing safety, this episode offers context, clarity, and relief. You’ll learn: • Why adult children often choose no contact only after years of trying to repair, explain, and stay connected, and how caring deeply can coexist with choosing distance. • How common myths about estrangement oversimplify complex attachment, nervous system limits, and long-term emotional harm. • How to reframe no contact as a boundary rooted in self-protection rather than punishment, cruelty, or lack of love. RESOURCES: Ep. 55: Oprah’s “Rising Trend of Going No Contact”: Why it’s not a trend, It’s a cultural shift (Estrangement Series Pt 1)Ep. 56: A Trauma-Informed Response to the NYT and Mel Robbins on Family Estrangement and No Contact (Estrangement Series Pt 2)Information on CPTSD (Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder)Love the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    1h 6m
  8. 56. A Trauma-Informed Response to the NYT and Mel Robbins on Family Estrangement and No Contact

    12/23/2025

    56. A Trauma-Informed Response to the NYT and Mel Robbins on Family Estrangement and No Contact

    If you read the New York Times article on family estrangement and no contact and felt unsettled, this episode is for you. We respond directly to the NYT opinion piece “Life Is Too Short to Fight With Your Family,” co-authored by Mel Robbins and Dr. Karl Pillemer, and explain why its conclusions about estrangement, mental health, and regret overlook trauma, power dynamics, and emotional safety. Rather than pushing blanket reconciliation or “just let them” advice, this episode offers a trauma-informed perspective on why estrangement is often a last resort, not avoidance. You’ll learn: • How the NYT article minimizes cumulative relational harm • How “life is too short” narratives pressure people into unsafe contact • Why no contact is often a values-based, intentional choice • How to trust your body and lived experience over cultural pressure This episode centers estranged adult children and others whose experiences are frequently erased in mainstream conversations about family, forgiveness, and reconciliation. RESOURCES: Ep. 55: Oprah’s “rising trend of going no contact”: why it’s not a trend, It’s a cultural shiftEp. 38: Are your boundaries too strong for your own good?Ep. 35: How to know who you can trust (and who you can’t)Ep. 7: Deathbed regrets: how living an authentic and aligned life helps you reclaim your power and maximize happinessNYT “Life Is Too Short to Fight With Your Family,” Love the show? A quick rating or review helps us so much! New episodes every Tuesday – hit subscribe so you don’t miss out. Follow us on IG: selfcentered.pod Thoughts, questions, guest requests, or episode ideas? Email us: selfcenteredthepod@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: The Self Centered with Katie and Allie Podcast is intended for entertainment, educational, and reflective purposes only. The views, opinions, experiences, and content shared by the hosts and guests are personal and subjective. They are not presented as objective facts or as representative of any professional body, organization, or field, including psychotherapy, coaching, or personal training. This podcast includes personal reflections on dynamics in various relationships, platonic, family, romantic, and professional. General references to “family,” “an ex,” or “a friend”, for example, are intentionally vague to protect anonymity and do not refer to every individual in those categories. When names are used, they are fictitious, and identifying details are altered. Some information shared is based on research or professional experience, not personal history. The information provided does not constitute medical, mental health, legal, or other professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for consultation with qualified, licensed professionals. Listeners are strongly encouraged to seek the advice and support of appropriate professionals for their own needs. The hosts, guests, and creators of the podcast disclaim all liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential loss or damages arising from the use of, reliance on, or interpretation of the podcast content or any linked materials. Use of this podcast and related content is at your own risk. By listening, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.

    49 min
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If you’re done living for approval and everyone else’s needs, you’re exactly where you’re meant to be. Self Centered is about reclaiming your relationship with yourself as your home base, so your thoughts, choices, and relationships flow from clarity, self-trust, and alignment instead of guilt, fear, or external validation. Our mission is simple: to help you return to yourself and challenge the culture that taught you to abandon who you are. Together, we uncover what pulls you away from your center, so you can live in alignment with your values and co-create a world where being well and centered isn’t seen as selfish. Hosts Allie and Katie have lived the burnout, the guilt, and the people-pleasing. Now, they share real stories and practical insights to model how to come home to yourself, reclaim your power, and build relationships rooted in interdependence, not codependence. This isn’t therapy. It’s real conversation and lived experience that reveal the patterns shaping how you show up, set boundaries, and connect, both with yourself and with others. Welcome to the movement! Let’s find your center and stay there, together. © 2024–2026 Self Centered™. All rights reserved.