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  1. 6d ago

    Can Memes Fix The UK's Political Polarisation?

    To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sayso-curated-news-digests/id6761196625In this episode, we're joined by Giacomo of Pint Newsletter, the satirical weekly that lands in 20,000 inboxes and the memes you've almost certainly already seen on your feed. He argues UK politics turning into a meme isn't a sign of collapse but an adaptation, and that satire, not doomposting, is the antidote to a polarised feed.Along the way he calls out Jeremy Hunt over the triple lock, makes the case that Gen Z isn't cooked, and explains why Count Binface's joke only works because he actually understands politics.We are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.orgViews expressed by guests are their own. We invite candidates from across the political spectrum and challenge all of them.Timestamps00:00 Has UK politics turned into a meme?01:22 Matt Hancock, and the media industrial complex01:55 Tabloid culture and Britain's love of watching people fail02:37 Is traditional media dead?03:01 Preferential algorithmic treatment for established news04:16 Farage has more followers than every MP combined04:41 Who owns the media, and why awareness changes things05:46 Attention spans, goldfish and Idiocracy06:38 Digital fatigue and the dating app comparison07:32 The X algorithm and front-loaded outrage08:31 "I'm a little bit more optimistic"09:17 Could a policy be announced from a meme?09:38 Politicians on Cameo10:41 George Mack, and agency as the differentiator11:06 The "woe is me" problem with young people on daytime TV12:58 A million NEETs and Oxford grads applying for café jobs13:45 Blair's 50% target, child poverty and the triple lock14:31 What Kwasi Kwarteng said off air16:03 Calling out Jeremy Hunt17:17 Nick Clegg, and the Westminster-to-consulting pipeline18:21 Why be optimistic rather than pessimistic?20:06 Seven governments in ten years20:45 A word from SaySo21:12 The uncodified state and the impossible PM job23:28 Burnham's anti-leak policy24:32 Andy Burnham's comms, the Smiths and the pub25:05 Starmer, authenticity and the hair gel video26:24 Days to a negative approval rating27:29 Cool Britannia and British soft power28:38 Hope core, and why Brits love the doom28:58 Ranking the greatest PM memes32:36 The greatest British political meme ever34:02 Thatcher in the social media age34:26 The Nixon Foundation's hype edits34:53 Did the edits make Trump president?35:48 Why politicians are all doing podcasts now37:35 Called fascists, communists and racists39:01 Private Eye and the British gift for satire39:41 Take a chill pill: easy to be heavy, hard to be light40:43 Devolution and the North–South divide41:51 The DJ set, and Zack Polanski falling off43:33 Count Binface, and what he taught us46:46 Advice for Andy Burnham's comms team📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#PintNewsletter #UKPolitics #Memes #AndyBurnham #JeremyHunt #TripleLock

  2. Sep 12

    How Reform Manufactured The Immigration Crisis

    To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sayso-curated-news-digests/id6761196625In this segment, Jack of Reform Watch argues that the immigration crisis was manufactured. Recorded in Clacton two days before the by-election, he makes the case that Reform's move toward the centre is presentational rather than real, that the immigration issue was invented to stoke racial tension, and that the people telling him to let Reform win a term in government to expose themselves are making a catastrophic mistake.Topics covered in this segment include:- Have Reform gone soft, or just moved to the centre to get elected?- Why Jack still calls them a far right party- "Let them win a term and show how incompetent they are" — and why he calls that absurd- Steve Bannon, transnational far right networks and authoritarian instincts- "Never, ever allow these people anywhere near the levers of power"- Elon Musk, the claim that Hitler was a socialist, and reframing history- First it was Polish builders, now it's Muslims: the shifting villain- The El Salvador plan as a dead cat- Refugees are a tiny share. Students are the biggest group. Nobody knows that.- The Dublin Convention and what leaving the EU actually cost- John Major on Reform having no philosophy- Hungary, Orbán, and how these parties actually get beaten- The Overton window, and agreeing with people he used to be furious at- Michael Heseltine on why the 1930s comparison is about language, not Nazis- The woman in Makerfield who said the sexist quotes didn't matter- Is Reform a cult?- Clacton's deprivation, Reform's voting record, and the debate they didn't turn up forWe are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.orgThe full episode is available on our Youtube.Views expressed by guests are their own. We invite candidates from across the political spectrum and challenge all of them.📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#ReformUK #NigelFarage #Clacton #UKPolitics #Immigration #GenZ #ReformWatch #news #politics #podcast

  3. Sep 5

    Jack Roworth Announces He's Quitting Journalism

    To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sayso-curated-news-digests/id6761196625In this segment, Jack announces he is quitting journalism.After a short spree of doorstepping politicians, travelling the country and sleeping on the streets when he couldn't afford anywhere to stay, he's walking away from the job entirely.He explains why the way politicians on the right treat the public, and the way they've grouped up against him. Robert Jenrick, who he says pushed him to the brink. The Telegraph piece questioning whether he was ever really a journalist at all, and the podcast Richard Tice appeared on shortly afterwards. Being followed home and filmed outside his own property. He talks about wanting a private life back, about not enjoying being recognised, and about not wanting to be part of an industry he believes drives people to take their own lives.He doesn't know what comes next. And then, at the end, he tells us something else he's been sitting on for a while.Topics covered in this episode include:- "I'm not going to do journalism anymore" — the announcement, on the record- The Telegraph, Richard Tice and being told he only claimed to be a journalist- Robert Jenrick and the personal cost of being publicly targeted- Being followed home and filmed outside his property- Sleeping on the streets to do the job- Why he thinks the media is a major problem in itself- Should politicians answer questions from anyone, including a homeless man on the street?- "I just want to be a normal person"- What happens next, and why it isn't exciting- One more announcement he's been holding backWe are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.orgThis episode touches on the personal impact of press and political pressure. If anything here affects you, Samaritans are available free, 24 hours a day, on 116 123.Views expressed by guests are their own. We invite people from across the political spectrum and challenge all of them.📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#Journalism #UKPolitics #RobertJenrick #ReformUK #LabourParty #Podcast #News #GenZ

  4. Aug 28

    What Happened To Reform's Poll Lead? | Reform Watch

    To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sayso-curated-news-digests/id6761196625In this episode, we're joined by Jack of Reform Watch, recorded in Clacton two days before the by-election. Reform Watch track Nigel Farage's party around the country, turn up where they campaign, and put their record in front of the voters they're courting. Jack argues Reform hit saturation point last autumn and have been sinking ever since, and that this makes them more dangerous, not less.Topics covered in this episode include:- Have Reform peaked? The fall from 30% to the low twenties- Andy Burnham, Labour's recovery, and what actually changed- "The most powerful things in Britain are the algorithms decided in Cupertino"- The Clacton by-election, novelty candidates and the sea of signs- Farage's constituency record: one affordable home and a relocated hand dryer- Is Nigel Farage the establishment?- Restore, Makerfield, and the party Jack says is further right than Reform- The Hold the Line campaign and the Tower of Truth- Is Reform far right, or have they moved to the centre to get elected?- The 2016 Brexit poster and what its imagery was doing- Immigration as a manufactured issue, and the dead cat strategy- John Major, Orbán and Hungary: how these parties actually get beaten- Misogyny, normalised language, and the woman who said it doesn't matter- Deprivation in Clacton and who Reform's supporters actually are- Social media, polarisation and the case for legislation- The time he confronted Farage on camera, and what he'd ask him nowWe are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.orgViews expressed by guests are their own. We invite candidates from across the political spectrum and challenge all of them.📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#ReformUK #NigelFarage #Clacton #UKPolitics #GenZ #Polling #ByElection #ReformWatch #news #politics #podcast

  5. Aug 14

    Clacton's Craziest Candidates Debate Two Eighteen-Year-Olds

    To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://linktr.ee/the.conversation.cabinetIn this episode, we're joined by Marcus and Rosie of "Everyone is God', standing in Clacton on a platform built on the belief that every atom in the universe is God, and that sexual psychology is the hidden driver behind almost everything, including politics.Topics covered in this episode include:- Channelling, 2,000 hours of it, and using it as a source of policy advice- What a single MP for a small party can realistically achieve- Wanting to be world leader, and why one is better than many- The £2 trillion GDP claim and the American comparison behind it- Abolishing corporation tax and moving to a cost-based tax system- "Sex drives politics" — the thesis, and whether it's a sexist one- Andrew Tate, the manosphere, and where they say they differ- Trump, alpha male psychology and manipulation at the top- Consent, the sex industry, and who actually holds power in it- Whether understanding your psychology excuses anything- Why there have been so few female leaders- Rational creatures or primitive ones? We are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.orgViews expressed by guests are their own. We invite candidates from across the political spectrum and challenge all of them.📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#EveryoneIsGod #Clacton #UKPolitics #GenZ #FringeParties #Channelling #Manosphere #AndrewTate

  6. Aug 7

    Samuel Leeds Confronted On His Courses & Tax Advice By Freddie Feltham

    To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://linktr.ee/the.conversation.cabinetThis is a clip from our first roundtable, where we're joined by Samuel Leeds, a property investor and founder of a property education business, and Freddie Feltham, a political journalist writing from the left. Samuel makes his case as proof that anyone can build wealth from nothing and the conversation turns into a live confrontation over his courses, his tax advice, and his business record.Topics covered in this clip include:- Samuel Leeds on building his portfolio from nothing- Gary Stevenson, wealth taxes, and whether capital flight is real- Whether meritocracy is a myth- Freddie questions how Samuel makes his money- The capital gains tax claim and Dan Neidle- Allegations put to Samuel, and his responseWe are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.org📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#SamuelLeeds #WealthTax #Meritocracy #UKPolitics #Property #GenZ

  7. Aug 1

    Why Gen Z Can't Buy a House | Freddie Feltham vs Samuel Leeds

    To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://linktr.ee/the.conversation.cabinetIn this episode, our first roundtable, we're joined by Samuel Leeds, a property investor and founder of a property education business, and Freddie Feltham, a political journalist writing from the left. Topics covered in this episode include:- Right to Buy, the 1988 Housing Act, and whether 1979 is where this begins- Whether buying a house to rent it out is actually profitable- Land banking, planning permission, and the developers sitting on it- Section 24, stamp duty, and the case for a land value tax- The Renters' Rights Act and whether regulation helps or hurts tenants- Housing benefit, right to buy, and the £30bn loop- Immigration, asylum, and how much of the crisis it actually explains- Inheritocracy vs personal responsibility — is meritocracy a myth?- Gary Stevenson, wealth taxes, and whether capital flight is a real problem- What a young person on an average wage can actually do about any of itWe are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.org📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#HousingCrisis #GenZ #SamuelLeeds #Renting #Landlords #Property #LandValueTax #UKPolitics

  8. Jul 16

    The Real Reason the Government Is Banning Social Media | Katiclysm

    This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.org.In this episode, we speak with Katie, a Gen Z content creator and commentator known online as Katiclysm, whose work focuses on pornography, social media, and their impact on young people. We invited her to set out her position, then spent the remainder of the conversation exploring and testing the reasoning behind those ideas.Topics covered in this episode include:- Whether the internet and social media sit at the root of Gen Z's problems- The Online Safety Act, Ofcom fines, and the proposed under-16 social media ban- Digital ID, age verification, face scanning, and online surveillance- Pornography, the state of sex education, and its effects on young people- OnlyFans, streamer culture, and online misogyny- Youth mental health services and whether government policy is fit for purposeWe are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#GenZ #SocialMedia #OnlineSafetyAct #DigitalID #Pornography #YouthMentalHealth #ukpolitics

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    Josh and Ethan
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