In this episode, Stephen Budd — British music executive, artist & producer manager, festival creator, and cultural entrepreneur - shares what he’s learned from four decades inside the music industry, and why the future belongs to artists who build real momentum, real relationships, and real community. From his first paid gig as a 15-year-old roadie at Motörhead’s first ever gig, to pressing DIY 7” singles and walking into Rough Trade, to managing Tony Visconti and helping shape events like The Great Escape, Stephen breaks down the practical reality of building careers - not through “hacks,” but through tenacity, timing, and fan connection. He also delivers straight-talking “hot takes” on AI-generated music flooding DSPs, what streaming platforms should do about monetisation, the social media paradox for musicians, and what record labels are actually for in 2026. This conversation is hosted by Mark Adams, CEO, Founder of Blinding Talent and former Channel 4 Music boss with over 20 years music industry experience. They explore: ⬛ Early hustle - roadie life, punk-era survival, learning every job on the road ⬛ DIY label beginnings - pressing 7” singles, Rough Trade, and old-school discovery routes ⬛ Direct-to-fan before DMs - the 15,000-fan phone call story and why it still works ⬛ Producer power - Tony Visconti, studios, and pioneering producer management ⬛ The Great Escape - why it worked, how booking really happens, and what artists need ⬛ Momentum & metrics - signals bookers look for (team, shows, buzz, and credibility) ⬛ AI & streaming - why “bots shouldn’t earn money” and what DSPs must change ⬛ Labels today - when they help, when to go independent, and scaling internationally ⬛ The next 10 years - grassroots venues, copyright battles, and deeper fan relationships ⏱ Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:07 First paid gig — roadie at Motörhead’s first ever gig 03:00 DIY to “industry” — starting a label at 19 04:09 Rough Trade moment — 500 copies sold in one meeting 07:51 Direct-to-fan marketing — flyers, data capture, and breaking a record 12:06 Tony Visconti — knocking on the door and building a partnership 15:22 Producer management — studios, overheads, and finding new clients 16:00 Arthur Baker & Junior Vasquez — New York mission + remix era economics 18:07 SuperVision — new management model at the dawn of the internet 20:30 ChannelFly / Barfly — merging businesses and entering live venues 23:52 The Great Escape — why it became the UK’s essential showcase 28:29 Getting booked — agents, gatekeeping, and what matters 31:03 Key metrics — what bookers look for (shows, buzz, team, real momentum) 35:01 AI hot take — flooding DSPs, monetisation, and the “bots shouldn’t earn money” argument 38:17 Social media — necessary, dangerous, and how to make it feel authentic 41:29 Labels — what they’re actually for now 43:44 Advice to younger Stephen — work only with music you truly love 45:33 The next 10 years — venues, copyright, and direct fan-to-artist revenue 49:30 What’s coming — “robot street teams” and scalable intimacy 50:38 Closing Follow Mark Adams: 🔗 LinkedIn: / markadamsai Follow Blinding Talent: 🌐 Website: https://www.blindingtalent.com 💼 LinkedIn: / blindingtalent 📸 Instagram: / blindingtalentinsta 🎵 TikTok: / blindingtalent 📺 YouTube: / @blindingtalent 🎧 Please rate, like & subscribe! Please rate, like and subscribe it really helps us get bigger and better guests. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
