What does it mean to follow a call to ministry when that calling must coexist with family life, financial realities, and institutions that do not always support the people serving within them? Maggie and Tim welcome Shannon Wimp Schmidt for a conversation tracing her journey from a parish-centered Catholic childhood to youth ministry, interfaith formation, writing, podcasting, and ecumenical leadership. Shannon reflects on the adults who accompanied her as a teenager, the experiences that helped her encounter Christ, and why effective ministry begins by recognizing young people as protagonists in their own lives—not problems to solve or numbers to count. The conversation also explores the tensions lay ministers often carry: serving the Church while earning a sustainable living, responding faithfully to injustice without building a vocation around other people’s suffering, and balancing a desire to protect one’s children with the call to form them for courageous discipleship. Shannon shares how the murder of George Floyd and the movement for racial justice expanded the reach of Plaid Skirts and Basic Black, the Black Catholic podcast she cohosts with Marcia Lane-McGee, and eventually led to writing, speaking, and ministry consulting. She also discusses her work compiling Praying with the Popes and the consistent thread of human dignity running through modern Catholic social teaching. The episode closes with Shannon’s work at TENx10, an ecumenical collaboration helping churches practice relational discipleship radically focused on Jesus. Her experience offers a hopeful picture of Christian unity: not uniformity, but communion built slowly through humility, trust, honest disagreement, and a shared love for Jesus and young people. About Shannon Wimp Schmidt Shannon Wimp Schmidt is the content director of TENx10, cohost of the Plaid Skirts and Basic Black podcast, and coauthor of Fat Luther, Slim Pickin’s: A Black Catholic Celebration of Faith, Tradition, and Diversity. She also helped compile Praying with the Popes: Words of Hope and Peace from Leo XIII to Leo XIV. Shannon has served in youth ministry, adult faith formation, interfaith ministry, Catholic education, and diversity formation. She holds a bachelor’s degree in theology and Italian from the University of Notre Dame and a master’s degree in pastoral studies from Catholic Theological Union. Episode highlights 00:05 — Welcome and introduction Maggie and Tim welcome Shannon and begin with the hidden labor behind making a podcast. 01:44 — A Catholic childhood centered on parish life Shannon describes growing up in suburban Chicago and how youth ministry transformed inherited faith into a personal call to discipleship. 05:17 — What meaningful accompaniment looks like Retreats, service, sacraments, honest questions, and adults who consistently showed up helped Shannon recognize young people as essential members of the Church. 09:23 — Studying theology and discerning a vocation Shannon recounts attending Notre Dame, discovering theology as a discipline, and choosing youth ministry. 13:16 — Ministry, parenthood, and the cost of answering a call The group discusses practical concerns about ministry careers, the tension between courageous faith and parental protectiveness, and the realities facing lay ministers with families. 21:08 — When Church structures do not reflect Church teaching A conversation about fair wages, benefits, parental leave, sustainable workloads, and the dignity of workers within Catholic institutions. 26:23 — Learning through interfaith ministry Shannon shares how accompanying students from many religious traditions deepened her Catholic faith, expanded her understanding of religious freedom, and strengthened her solidarity with religious minorities. 34:59 — From direct ministry to equipping others As family life changed, Shannon discerned a new call to “equip the saints for ministry” through adult formation, leadership, and content creation. 39:36 — Plaid Skirts and Basic Black Shannon explains how a podcast with her best friend, Marcia Lane-McGee, grew into an important space for Black Catholic faith, culture, humor, and reflection. 40:48 — Racial justice, grief, and unexpected grace The murder of George Floyd brought new listeners to the podcast and opened opportunities for writing and speaking—while creating difficult questions about doing meaningful work rooted in painful realities. 44:05 — Writing and praying with the popes Shannon discusses Fat Luther, Slim Pickin’s, Praying with the Popes, her affection for Pope Leo XIV, and the enduring concern for human dignity found throughout Catholic social teaching. 49:18 — The human person at the heart of the Church The group reflects on the Spirit’s guidance, the humanity of Church leaders, and the conviction that every person is an irreplaceable world created to be loved by God. 57:18 — Relational discipleship through TENx10 Shannon introduces TENx10’s work helping ministry leaders accompany young people and place relationships at the center of faith formation. 59:36 — Building communion across Christian traditions What does ecumenical collaboration require in a polarized culture? Shannon describes a process grounded in shared commitments, humility, patience, and a willingness to remain at the table. 1:07:29 — Closing reflections and where to find Shannon Shannon shares her podcast, books, social media, and a special discount for listeners. Resources and connections Meet Shannon and explore her books Explore TENx10 Listen to Plaid Skirts and Basic Black Fat Luther, Slim Pickin’s Praying with the Popes Follow Shannon on Instagram, TikTok, and Threads: @teamquarterblack Use the code FATLUTHER20 at Ave Maria Press for 20% off Fat Luther, Slim Pickin’s If this conversation encouraged you, share it with a youth minister, parish leader, parent, educator, or anyone discerning how to live their vocation faithfully and sustainably. Subscribe to In Goodfaith wherever you listen, and leave a review to help more people discover the show.