The HeavenEarth Church Podcast Exists to Amplify The Conversation Happening at HeavenEarth Church. This conversation centers around the vision to be a church that make a lasting impact in our community by building relationships with all kinds of folks, helping people know and live like Jesus together. You can help the HeavenEarth Church Podcast share and amplify this conversation by: Following or subscribing to the HeavenEarth Church Podcast,Give a five star rating to the HeavenEarth Church Podcast,Writing a review about your HeavenEarth Church Podcast Experience. Please follow, rate and review at the following channels: Apple Podcasts Spotify Podchaser HeavenEarth Sunday Conversation "Where's Jesus-Addendum...Leave our Nets"Speaker: Emily HolversonSummaryIn this reflective and heartfelt episode, Emily leads the community through an exploration of what it means to follow Jesus in the midst of uncertain times, both personally and collectively. Through storytelling, scripture, and honest dialogue, listeners are invited into a deeper consideration of the challenges and beauty found in pursuing faith within a changing and often unsettling cultural context. Emily draws on personal family traditions, particularly yearly trips to a special rock at Cave Point in Wisconsin, to illustrate themes of change, risk, and adventure. The rock, once securely attached to the ledge but now separated by years of waves and weather, becomes a metaphor for both the shifting realities around us and the courage to step into new, unknown spaces. Using the opening chapters of Mark’s Gospel, Emily transports listeners to the moment when Jesus called his first disciples—ordinary fishermen who left behind their jobs and families to answer an invitation they did not fully understand. The episode’s centerpiece is the simple, powerful invitation: “Come, follow me,” and the communal wrestling with what it looks like to respond today. Three Major TakeawaysThe Power of Context: “What’s in the Ether?”A recurring question throughout the episode is “What’s in the ether?”—what are the unseen but deeply felt conditions, trends, and pressures shaping our spiritual and communal lives? Emily, together with the group, identifies today’s ether as filled with uneasiness, division, urgency, and uncertainty, echoed by terms like “deconstruction,” “hardship,” and “passivism” raised by the community 09:31. This mirrors the fraught context of Jesus’ original call to his disciples, reminding listeners that every generation must wrestle honestly with the dynamics influencing faith.The Challenge and Cost of Following JesusEmily clearly outlines that answering Jesus’ invitation is simple, but not easy. For the disciples, following meant leaving behind security—their nets, jobs, and identity 21:06. For listeners today, it might mean letting go of certainty, comfort, control, or even the urge to be “the expert.” The journey is marked by learning through trial and error, embracing communal life (even when it’s messy), and continually engaging in the tension between individual growth and shared experience.Community as a Place of Healing, Hope, and New BeginningsWhen reflecting on the local community (“Heaven Earth”), contrasts emerge between the negative trends of broader culture and the hope, growth, acceptance, and new beginnings sensed within the group 31:22. Emily emphasizes that meaningful transformation happens when people reclaim ancient values—love of God, love of neighbor, intentional presence, and willingness to hold tension together 34:34. Through personal stories—such as helping her aging father climb the family’s special rock again—Emily powerfully demonstrates how faith and community support each other through life’s risks and challenges. Final ReflectionsAt its heart, this episode is a moving meditation on what it means to keep saying “yes” to Jesus’ invitation, even when it demands vulnerability, risk, and openness to not having all the answers. Listeners are encouraged to notice what they might be holding onto for security, consider what’s worth letting go, and trust that transformation is possible—in themselves, and in their community—when they take the next brave step together.