Hunger & Heart with Kaila Colbin

Kaila Colbin & Boma

Hunger & Heart is a podcast about the intersection of wild ambition and fierce compassion, hosted by entrepreneur Kaila Colbin. Kaila tackles the myth that you can either empathise or get the job done, but not both. She talks to people who have managed to perform at the absolute highest level while still holding tightly to their values — specifically, sportspeople — revealing insights that apply not only to sports but to the world of work and beyond. Follow to get notified as soon as new episodes drop. -- Kaila Colbin is founder and CEO of Boma, an organisation building a world of intentional, intelligent, courageous leaders. Boma is the creator of the Crusaders Leadership Programme™, bringing insights from five of the greatest rugby legends of all time to leaders globally. An award-winning leader renowned for impact, Kaila works with teams and organisations to build cultural alignment, cultivate honesty, and adapt to a rapidly changing world. As an international keynote speaker, she has shared the stage with the likes of Bear Grylls, General Stanley McChrystal, astronaut Chris Hadfield, and Swati Mandela. Her powerful, up-to-the-minute insights and world-class delivery make her a standout favourite with any audience. She developed TEDxChristchurch into New Zealand’s flagship TEDx event, brought Singularity University to New Zealand and Australia, and trained with Al Gore and Dr Brené Brown. Her work with high-performing teams such as the Crusaders and the U.S. Soccer Foundation gives her a unique insight into the skills and attributes that characterise high-performing individuals and teams.  In 2022 she was recognised with the Kea World Class New Zealanders Friend of New Zealand award. A native New Yorker, Kaila speaks English, Spanish, French and Italian. She holds a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Administration from Cornell University. Her purpose in life is to be an uplifting presence. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 1d ago

    How NZ's Most Unlikely Basketball Legend Was Built: Brother Battles, Bleeding Fingers, Zero Shortcuts

    Dillon Boucher was so sure he'd made the 2000 Olympic team that his wife had already booked her flights. But when they announced the squad in alphabetical order — by the third one he knew he hadn’t been selected. What Dillon did next is the definition of commitment. He quit his job, started a coaching business so he could keep a ball in his hands all day, and trained until his fingertips split open. By his own admission, pursuing basketball full-time back then was “absolutely madness.” Dillon made the Tall Blacks the following year and went on to become one of our greatest ever. In this conversation the unlikely legend unpacks how someone with no natural athleticism built a career at the top: the coach whose belief changed everything, why every loose ball is critical, the difference between consequences and punishment, and why the willingness to do hard things is the most underrated strategic advantage there is - on the court, in the boardroom, and at home. Whether you're leading a team, raising kids, or wondering if you're good enough for the room you're in, this one's for you. – A huge thanks to Celebrity Speakers for supporting this episode. If you want to book Dillon Boucher for a keynote and leave your audience hungry for more, visit celebrityspeakers.co.nz. Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read.  You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team.   The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience.  It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    How NZ's Most Unlikely Basketball Legend Was Built: Brother Battles, Bleeding Fingers, Zero Shortcuts

  2. Jul 7

    How Resentment Builds in Even the Best Workplaces

    Nobody is born good at hard conversations. Not even the people who teach them. I’ve spent years running Brené Brown’s Dare to Lead™ programme. I built the Courageous Communication™ programme specifically around the skills of having hard conversations. But teaching it and living it are two different things. In this episode I sit down with my colleague Hannah Hudson to talk honestly about what it's actually like trying to walk that talk every day. The defensiveness that creeps in when a client gives feedback. The resentment that builds when you let something go but don't really let it go. The moment all your skills go out the window in a meeting you thought you'd ace. We cover why anger sometimes feels like the only possible response (and why there are always other options), how to set a boundary without being angry, and the one definition of success in a hard conversation that doesn't depend on how the other person responds. If you've ever swallowed the thing you needed to say - this one's for you. 🎓 Want to get better at hard conversations? Start with the free Courageous Communication™ email course: https://nz.boma.global/cc-email-course 🧭 Explore upcoming Dare to Lead™ programmes: https://nz.boma.global/dare-to-lead – Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read.  You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team.   The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience.  It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    How Resentment Builds in Even the Best Workplaces

  3. Jun 30

    The All Blacks' Secret: Why Performance Needs Care

    ⚠️ Please note: this conversation talks about depression and mental health. If you or someone you know is struggling, free help is available through Lifeline - call 0508 TAUTOKO, that's 0508 828 865. Sir John Kirwan is one of New Zealand's greatest All Blacks — but, while he lived the life of a champion, his mental health suffered. He's since become one of the country's greatest wellbeing advocates - speaking openly about his own depression, the night on tour when he wanted to jump out of a window, and rebuilding his entire life from scratch. In this conversation with Kaila Colbin, JK talks about what depression actually felt like from the inside, why he had to treat himself like he was dead before he could start again, and the system he built - and now teaches - to make sure he never goes back there. This isn't a rugby episode - though there are some great stories. It's a conversation about what it takes to perform at the highest level of anything - and why care isn't the soft option. In this episode: Why JK says balance is bullsh*t - and what to do insteadThe night he wanted to end his life, and what his mum said that changed everythingHow he put his life into boxes and rebuilt it from the ground upThe All Blacks' performance-care philosophy - and why he believes it's why they finally won the World Cup in 2011The six daily pillars he uses to protect his mental healthWhy the care conversation and the performance conversation are the same conversationWhat a Catholic priest told him before his wedding that became some of the best advice he's ever receivedWhy the badge of honour around working yourself to exhaustion is destroying peopleThe "to-done" list - and why it matters more than your to-do listWhat it means to manage your imbalance instead of chasing balance 📚 JK's Books All Blacks Don't Cry: A Story of Hope - https://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/All-Blacks-Dont-Cry-John-Kirwan/9781776950492 Stand By Me: Helping Your Teen Through Tough Times - https://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Stand-By-Me-John-Kirwan/9780143570639 – A huge thanks to Celebrity Speakers for supporting this episode. If you want to book Sir John Kirwan for a keynote and leave your audience hungry for more, visit celebrityspeakers.co.nz. Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read. You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience. It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    The All Blacks' Secret: Why Performance Needs Care

  4. Jun 23

    Dame Farah Palmer: What 3 World Cups Taught Me About Leadership

    Dame Farah Palmer wasn't the most talented athlete in the room. She was nearly invisible at her first university orientation week. And then… someone from the rugby club noticed her. In this conversation, Kaila Colbin sits down with one of New Zealand's most decorated sportswomen: three-time Black Ferns World Cup captain, Dame Companion, first woman elected to the New Zealand Rugby board, and one of the architects of the Women’s Rugby World Cup 2021 in Aotearoa. We get to the origin story most haven’t heard: the absent father, the eating disorder, the scholarship her mum found for her, and what it actually means to lead when you're not sure you're the right person. Please note: this conversation contains discussion about eating disorders. If you or someone you know is struggling, free help is available through EDANZ — call 0800 2 EDANZ (0800 233 269). This episode covers: Growing up in Piopio and the sliding-doors moment at Otago UniversityBeing shoulder-tapped for rugby at 16 and what it did for her relationship with her bodyBeing asked to captain the Black Ferns - and hiding behind the door afterwardsThe "BTB" framework: Better Than Before and what it did for team cultureWhat she calls her “fourth World Cup” and why it means more than the three on the field📖 Book mentioned: Who Moved My Cheese - https://www.unitybooks.co.nz/products/who-moved-my-cheese – Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read.  You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team.   The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience.  It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Dame Farah Palmer: What 3 World Cups Taught Me About Leadership

  5. Jun 16

    Maggie Cogger-Orr: The Loneliest Job on the Field - Lessons from a World-Class Rugby Referee

    What does it take to hold professional athletes to the highest standards - without ever raising your voice? Maggie Cogger-Orr is one of New Zealand's top rugby referees and the current Referee of the Year. Originally from Canada, she grew up playing gridiron football before falling in love with rugby - and after two ACL injuries ended her playing ambitions, she went all-in on refereeing. She's now officiating at the top level of the men's and women's game. In this conversation, Maggie unpacks the "know me, be me, stay me" framework NZ's top referees use to perform under pressure, and why accountability has nothing to do with anger. She shares the early mistakes that taught her how to de-escalate, how she processes being shouted at in front of thousands of people, and what every leader can learn from the loneliest job on the field. – Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read.  You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team.   The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience.  It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Maggie Cogger-Orr: The Loneliest Job on the Field - Lessons from a World-Class Rugby Referee

  6. Jun 9

    Rob Hamill: My Brother Was Captured and Executed by the Khmer Rouge

    Rob Hamill is one of New Zealand's most storied and decorated rowers - a silver at the World Championships in 1994, the winner of the first ever Atlantic Rowing Race in '97, and a man who has lived a life most people couldn't imagine. But beneath the athletic achievements is a story that shaped everything. When Rob was 14, his older brother Kerry went missing while sailing through Southeast Asia on his OE. Sixteen months of silence followed. His parents wrote letter after letter to ports across Asia, hoping for news that never came. When it finally did, it arrived on the front page of a newspaper: Kerry had been blown off course into Cambodian waters, captured by the Khmer Rouge, tortured for months at the infamous Tuol Sleng Prison, and executed. In this conversation, we get into grief, resilience, forgiveness, and what it means to carry loss through a life lived at full throttle. Rob shares the extraordinary details of Kerry's forced confession — and the extraordinary messages his brother managed to hide inside it. He talks about rowing across the Atlantic and discovering, alone in the middle of the ocean, that he had never truly grieved. He talks about testifying at the War Crimes Tribunal in Cambodia thirty years later. About losing his other brother, John, in the aftermath. And about why, in 2018, he and his family set sail to circle the globe — finishing the journey Kerry never got to complete. Please note: this episode talks about suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, free help is available through Lifeline, call 0508 TAUTOKO, that’s 0508 828 865. Links mentioned in this episode: 🎤 Rob Hamill's TEDx Talk — On Forgiveness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q87a7KNq2YQ 🎤 Matt Brown — The Barbershop Where Men Go to Heal | TEDxChristchurch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UhP3OZ9ZCE – A huge thanks to Celebrity Speakers for supporting this episode. If you want to book Rob for a keynote and leave your audience hungry for more, visit celebrityspeakers.co.nz. Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read.  You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team.   The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience.  It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Rob Hamill: My Brother Was Captured and Executed by the Khmer Rouge

  7. Jun 2

    Blakey Johnston Surfed For 40 Hours Non-Stop - The Response Was Incredible

    He lost his dad to suicide, surfed for 40 hours straight and built one of Australia's most powerful mental health movements — one wave at a time. Blake Johnston is a World Record holder, mental health advocate, Director of Cronulla Surfing Academy, and the man behind the world's largest paddle out. But before any of that, he was a kid from Cronulla who loved the ocean more than anything — and had no idea how much he'd one day need it. In this episode, Blake shares the full story: growing up with ADHD in a house of many brothers, chasing a pro surfing career that didn't quite go the distance, meeting and marrying his partner Lauren, and then — in a single phone call on the way home from a surf retreat — having his world shattered when he lost his dad to suicide. What followed was a decade of rebuilding. And then, in an act that defied what most people would consider humanly possible, he paddled out into five-to-six foot surf at 1 AM, and didn't come back in for 40 hours and 7 minutes. 707 waves. A world record.  This conversation covers grief, purpose, resilience, the ocean, community, parenthood, and mental health. Please note: this episode talks about depression and suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, free help is available through Lifeline, call 0508 TAUTOKO, that’s 0508 828 865. To learn more: Get a link to Blakey’s website: https://www.swellbeing.com.au/ A link to his book, Swellbeing: https://www.swellbeing.com.au/product/swellbeing/ And a link to the documentary (trailer and where to watch in Aus): https://inpiecestogetherfilm.com/ – Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read.  You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team.   The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience.  It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Blakey Johnston Surfed For 40 Hours Non-Stop - The Response Was Incredible

  8. May 26

    The Most Dangerous Atlantic Rowing Race in History — Sarah Kessans Was In It

    Sarah Kessans came to New Zealand for a two-year postdoc. Thirteen years later she's still here - an Associate Professor at the University of Canterbury working across synthetic biology, space research, and agricultural climate science. But before all of that, she was a 20-year-old from Indiana with $500, no ocean experience, and an idea she'd read about on a plane. In this episode, Sarah tells the full story of how she and her college rowing rival entered the Woodvale Atlantic Rowing Race — a 5,000 km crossing from the Canary Islands to Antigua. How they built their own boat, raised $150,000 from nothing, and arrived at the start line as one of the most prepared crews in a fleet of 26. And what happened on Day 45 when a rogue wave flipped their boat upside down, 1,400 miles from land, in the middle of a hurricane. In this episode: How a single book on a flight changed the entire direction of her lifeBuilding a racing boat in her dad's cabinet workshop in IndianaWhat it's actually like to row through the night, alone, in the middle of the AtlanticThe capsize — and the 14 hours that followedWhy she went backBreaking the women's world record by 17 days Hunger & Heart is brought to you by the Crusaders Leadership Programme™. Whether you're coaching under-5s or a professional team, we all want the same thing: to build cultures of trust, get the best out of our people, and grow players into leaders. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ lets you get up close and personal with some of the greatest rugby legends of all time — people like Sir Wayne Smith, Sam Whitelock, and Kieran Read. You'll connect with a global group of ambitious, caring coaches from a range of codes and backgrounds, and most importantly, you'll gain skills and techniques to drive impact and outcomes for your team. The Crusaders Leadership Programme™ is a two-week high-intensity virtual experience. It is delivered exclusively online, accessible from anywhere.  Hunger and heart Listeners get 10% off the full price of the program. Use the code HUNGER at checkout. Find out more: crusadersleadership.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hunger & Heart is a podcast about the intersection of wild ambition and fierce compassion, hosted by entrepreneur Kaila Colbin. Kaila tackles the myth that you can either empathise or get the job done, but not both. She talks to people who have managed to perform at the absolute highest level while still holding tightly to their values — specifically, sportspeople — revealing insights that apply not only to sports but to the world of work and beyond. Follow to get notified as soon as new episodes drop. -- Kaila Colbin is founder and CEO of Boma, an organisation building a world of intentional, intelligent, courageous leaders. Boma is the creator of the Crusaders Leadership Programme™, bringing insights from five of the greatest rugby legends of all time to leaders globally. An award-winning leader renowned for impact, Kaila works with teams and organisations to build cultural alignment, cultivate honesty, and adapt to a rapidly changing world. As an international keynote speaker, she has shared the stage with the likes of Bear Grylls, General Stanley McChrystal, astronaut Chris Hadfield, and Swati Mandela. Her powerful, up-to-the-minute insights and world-class delivery make her a standout favourite with any audience. She developed TEDxChristchurch into New Zealand’s flagship TEDx event, brought Singularity University to New Zealand and Australia, and trained with Al Gore and Dr Brené Brown. Her work with high-performing teams such as the Crusaders and the U.S. Soccer Foundation gives her a unique insight into the skills and attributes that characterise high-performing individuals and teams.  In 2022 she was recognised with the Kea World Class New Zealanders Friend of New Zealand award. A native New Yorker, Kaila speaks English, Spanish, French and Italian. She holds a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Administration from Cornell University. Her purpose in life is to be an uplifting presence. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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