Code and Country

Ian L. Paterson
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A podcast focusing on the intersection between cybersecurity, national security, and geopolitics

  1. Episode 21: Carey Frey, Chief Security Officer, Telus

    5d ago

    Episode 21: Carey Frey, Chief Security Officer, Telus

    In our inaugural episode of Season 2, Ian L. Paterson sits down with Carey Frey, Chief Security Officer at TELUS, who leads security for one of Canada's largest telecommunications providers. Drawing on nearly two decades at the Communications Security Establishment—including roles as Director General of Cyber Defense and Director General of Cybersecurity Partnerships—Frey brings a rare dual perspective on critical infrastructure protection from both sides of the public-private divide. He unpacks why collective cyber defense remains largely aspirational, how legal and fiduciary obligations pit corporate interests against national security, and why safe harbor provisions are essential to meaningful threat intelligence sharing. The conversation also tackles Canada's exposure to nation-state pre-positioning campaigns like Volt Typhoon and Salt Typhoon, and what it would take to apply hard-won emergency management lessons from natural disasters to a national-scale cyber event. Essential listening for CISOs, infrastructure operators, and security policymakers navigating the realities of defending critical systems in an era of great-power competition.

    21 min
  2. Episode 20: Craig Newmark, Craigslist Founder and Philanthropist

    10/08/2025

    Episode 20: Craig Newmark, Craigslist Founder and Philanthropist

    In this episode of Code and Country, Ian L. Paterson speaks with Craig Newmark, Craigslist founder and philanthropist, about his $200 million commitment to U.S. cybersecurity. Craig outlines his vision for "cyber civil defense"—a World War II-style mobilization where every American helps protect against nation-state threats like China's Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon campaigns targeting critical infrastructure. The discussion covers urgent vulnerabilities in small water systems, the Cyber Resilience Corps, and initiatives like PauseTakeNine.org. This episode offers security leaders and policymakers a roadmap for collective defense against today's cyber threats.

    18 min
  3. Ep: 19 Michael Daniel, President and CEO of the Cyber Threat Alliance

    09/16/2025

    Ep: 19 Michael Daniel, President and CEO of the Cyber Threat Alliance

    In this episode of Code and Country, Michael Daniel, President and CEO of the Cyber Threat Alliance and former White House Cybersecurity Coordinator, shares lessons from the frontlines of national cyber policy.  From shaping early government cyber budgets to confronting incidents like the Sony hack and OPM breach, Daniel reflects on how U.S. policy thinking matured in real time.  He outlines the evolution of ransomware, structural flaws in how cybersecurity risk is distributed, and why the future of cyber resilience depends on smarter collaboration between public and private actors.  Essential insights for CISOs, systems architects, and IT leaders facing today’s complex threat landscape.

    31 min
  4. Ep. 18: Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-founder Crowdstrike Part 2

    08/26/2025

    Ep. 18: Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-founder Crowdstrike Part 2

    In this episode of Code and Country, Ian Paterson continues his conversation with Dmitri Alperovitch, CrowdStrike co-founder, Silverado Policy Accelerator executive chairman, and author of World on the Brink. Dmitri explains how China’s Volt Typhoon campaign marks a shift from espionage to battlefield preparation by infiltrating water utilities, small telecom providers, and local power grids.  The discussion explores why Taiwan has become the central flashpoint in U.S.-China competition, and how cyber could shape the opening moves of a conflict. From disrupting mobilization to targeting sustainment systems like the F-35’s ODIN platform, cyber’s impact on logistics and readiness could prove decisive.  With candid insights on deterrence, logistics, and overlooked vulnerabilities in small utilities, this episode gives CISOs, IT leaders, and national security executives a front-row seat to the strategies shaping the future of nation-state cyber conflict.

    31 min
  5. Ep. 17: Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-founder Crowdstrike Part 1

    08/13/2025

    Ep. 17: Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-founder Crowdstrike Part 1

    In this episode of Code and Country, Ian Paterson sits down with Dmitri Alperovitch, CrowdStrike co-founder, Silverado Policy Accelerator executive chairman, and author of World on the Brink. Dmitri shares his journey from teenage encryption entrepreneur to leading some of the most consequential cyber investigations in history, including Operation Aurora. He discusses the evolution of cyber threats from spam to state-backed espionage, China’s Volt Typhoon campaign, and why Taiwan may be the “new Berlin” in a looming geopolitical standoff. With candid insights on deterrence, offensive cyber operations, and the role of private companies on the front lines, this conversation offers CISOs, IT leaders, and security architects a front-row seat to the strategies shaping national security in the 21st century.

    22 min
  6. Ep 16: Ollie Whitehouse, CTO NCSC

    07/29/2025

    Ep 16: Ollie Whitehouse, CTO NCSC

    Ollie Whitehouse, CTO of the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC), joins Code and Country to unpack what it really takes to secure a nation in the age of AI, ransomware, and quantum threats. Drawing from three decades of experience across public and private sectors, Whitehouse offers a candid assessment of the broken cybersecurity market, why the incentives are misaligned, and what meaningful defense should look like. He explores how governments and enterprises can better collaborate, the urgent need to catalog cryptographic dependencies, and why resilience must be built into business, not bolted on. Essential listening for CISOs, IT leaders, and architects navigating the new frontier of national-scale cyber defense.

    27 min
  7. Ep 15: Katie Moussouris, CEO Luta Security

    07/15/2025

    Ep 15: Katie Moussouris, CEO Luta Security

    Katie Moussouris, founder and CEO of Luta Security, joins Code and Country to trace her path from MIT to pioneering vulnerability disclosure and launching “Hack the Pentagon.” She dives deep into the economics of the exploit market, the dangers of vulnerability disclosure laws, and how AI is shifting the dynamics of cybersecurity offense and defense. Katie also shares first-hand stories from her time shaping Microsoft's bug bounty program and working with the Pentagon. A must-listen for CISOs, IT leaders, and architects navigating the geopolitics of cyber risk.

    40 min
  8. Ep 14: Robert Young Pelton Author, Journalist, Explorer

    06/17/2025

    Ep 14: Robert Young Pelton Author, Journalist, Explorer

    In this episode of Code and Country, host Ian Paterson is joined by Robert Young Pelton, renowned war correspondent and author of Licensed to Kill and The World's Most Dangerous Places. Pelton shares firsthand accounts from his time embedded with the Taliban, Special Forces in Afghanistan, and rebel groups in Chechnya. He discusses the evolution of cyber warfare, the dark intersections of state and non-state actors in financial fraud, and how cyber tactics mirror battlefield strategy.  Pelton also explores the chilling implications of compromised digital hygiene, from sat phone targeting to political hacks. A must-listen for CISOs, IT leaders, and architects concerned about the global cyber threat landscape.

    32 min
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A podcast focusing on the intersection between cybersecurity, national security, and geopolitics

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  • Creator
    Ian L. Paterson
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    21
  • Rating
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    © 2026 Ian L. Paterson