The Kee To Growth

Jen McKee

Welcome to The Kee to Growth, the ultimate podcast for trade business owners ready to level up their marketing game! Hosted by marketing maven Jen McKee, this show dives deep into the strategies, tools, and insights you need to dominate the digital landscape. Specializing in TikTok marketing for trades, Jen shares her expertise to help you turn clicks into customers and viewers into lifelong clients. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just getting started in the trades, The Kee to Growth delivers actionable tips, inspiring success stories, and the latest trends in marketing tailored just for your industry. Tune in, take notes, and unlock the key to exponential growth for your business!

  1. 15H AGO

    Hyper-Targeted Marketing for Growth: Michelle Jeppesen's Playbook for Home Service Pros

    In this inspiring episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Michelle Jeppesen of Sendgym for a practical, down-to-earth conversation on marketing and mindset in the home services industry. Drawing from a decade in the trades, Michelle shares her journey from running a CSR call center to developing hyper-targeted marketing tools for home service pros, unraveling how psychology can transform both customer experience and marketing results. Together, Jen and Michelle explore the emotional highs and lows of entrepreneurship, balance hard marketing tactics with authentic leadership, and address the real ways business owners can build sustainable growth through alignment rather than overnight gimmicks. Whether you're an owner scaling from $1 million to $10 million or just looking to strengthen your roots, this episode is packed with actionable ways to become "5-mile famous"—Michelle's approach for saturating your ideal local market and being unforgettable in your community. They highlight strategies from geofencing and hyper-targeted direct mail to social media branding, and connect every tactic back to real human behavior (hello, brain calories). You'll hear how consistency in marketing—texting, postcards, yard signs, and even thoughtful gifts—builds trust, fosters repeat business, and aligns your brand with what consumers actually need. The conversation takes a deeper dive into remarketing, explaining the difference between lead issues and sales issues, and how testing your offers is key to aligned growth. From best practices for digital ads and postcard ROI, to creative touches like lumpy mail and ringless voicemail, Michelle and Jen demystify how service businesses can stay relevant during longer buying cycles and build lasting relationships rather than quick wins. They also touch on the mental and emotional sides of entrepreneurship—how posting about your business on social media isn't "being annoying," it's fulfilling your responsibility as a business owner to be seen, trusted, and remembered. Jen wraps the episode by asking Michelle her signature question: What's the key to growth? Michelle's answer—consistent saturation—ties back to the foundation of branding, marketing, and nurturing both leads and customers. If you want to unlock the secrets behind operational efficiency, profit-first clarity, healthy intentional boundaries, and leveraging AI tools for modern marketing visibility, this conversation is a must-listen. You'll walk away with practical ideas, mindset shifts, and the encouragement to keep showing up authentically for yourself and your audience. Time stamps and topics discussed: 00:00 Welcome and introduction to The Kee To Growth Podcast and upcoming San Antonio event 02:30 Michelle Jeppesen's story in home services and transition from CSR training to marketing 04:45 The psychology behind customer service and how business is rooted in understanding why people buy 05:50 Sendgym marketing techniques: geofencing, hyper-targeting, and glitter marketing versus focused lead generation 06:44 What it means to become "5-mile famous" and best practices for neighborhood saturation 07:55 Practical ways to market locally: digital ads, yard signs, branded trucks, and automated postcards 08:35 ROI and lifespan of postcards, studies on touchpoints, and real-world results from neighbor mailings 12:45 Marketing trends: why consumers require more touchpoints and how the buying cycle is becoming longer 12:46 Remarketing and texting as powerful tools for nurturing leads and customers 14:26 Automating follow-up, leveraging broadcast texts, and the speed-to-lead culture 20:03 Lessons from millions of postcards: why the offer matters most, dollar-off vs. percentage-off, and creative A/B testing 24:18 Making offers clear, the importance of testing, and adapting creative for digital and print platforms 24:33 Ringless voicemail and lumpy mail—using gifts and thoughtful gestures to nurture leads and create loyalty 27:23 Identifying lead versus sales issues, mindset of constant marketing testing, and why personal branding truly matters 27:35 Michelle's key to growth: consistent saturation and being unforgettable Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    28 min
  2. MAR 3

    Taking your Profit First: Mike Michalowicz on how to have a healthy, sustainable business

    On this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee welcomes bestselling author and entrepreneur Mike Michalowicz for an authentic conversation around the realities of scaling a business, managing profit, and building resilience as a leader in the trades. Mike, known for books like Profit First, Clockwork, and The Pumpkin Plan, opens up about his journey from business success to deep struggle, and how that paved the way for his groundbreaking approach to entrepreneurial finance.   Jen and Mike take listeners behind the curtain of business ownership, discussing the messy middle that isn't talked about enough—the financial setbacks, the tough calls around hiring and letting go, and the emotional rollercoaster of aligning your business to your natural talents. They specifically address contractors and home service leaders, breaking down why revenue isn't the whole story and how sustainable profitability should be prioritized from day one. Mike explains his Profit First system, revealing why so many owners find themselves stressed and strapped for cash despite outward business growth.   Beyond the numbers, this episode dives into the human side of entrepreneurship: the mindset shifts, intentional boundaries, and leadership evolution needed for authentic growth. Jen and Mike touch on the unique challenges home service companies face, like economy-driven ups and downs and the pressure to constantly scale. Jen keeps the discussion approachable and rooted in practical action, highlighting that every pain point is also a growth point. There's an emphasis on blending hard systems with soft self-leadership, and never losing sight of joyful business building.   Listeners will leave with clear takeaways for modern marketing, behavioral money management, and the power of differentiation—how your "extra" is actually your edge, from memorable branding to word-of-mouth-worthy service. The episode closes with a look at Mike's latest book, The Money Habit, and a compelling discussion on what truly unlocks sustainable business development, both in the books and in everyday leadership.   Timestamps and topics covered in this episode:   00:00 Welcome and introduction to The Growth Experience conference 02:06 Meet Mike Michalowicz: author, entrepreneur, and Profit First creator 03:27 The real story behind entrepreneurship: wins, wipeouts, and lessons learned 05:59 Profit First explained: mindset, human behavior, and practical application for contractors 08:21 Revenue vs. profit: why focusing on bottom line health changes everything 10:20 The neuroscience of money management and behavioral systems for owners 11:36 Budgeting on a growing business: percentages, priorities, and adjusting as you scale 13:17 What to do when revenue contracts: tough decisions and clarity during downturns 16:07 Leadership by letting go: the role of an entrepreneur as job creator 18:37 When and how to invest in marketing versus doing what everyone else is doing 21:23 The power of differentiation in branding and service: standing out in the trades   Social Media Links: https://www.facebook.com/MikeMichalowiczFanPage/ https://www.instagram.com/mikemichalowicz/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemichalowicz/ https://www.youtube.com/c/mikemichalowiczofficial Tik Tok: Mike Michalowicz https://dontwritethatbookpodcast.com/ https://substack.com/@mikemichalowicz?utm_source=user-menu https://mikemichalowicz.com/mikespodcast/ Connect with Mike Michalowicz:   Social Media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MikeMichalowiczFanPage/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikemichalowicz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemichalowicz/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/mikemichalowiczofficial TikTok: Mike Michalowicz Don't Write That Book Podcast: https://dontwritethatbookpodcast.com/ Substack: https://substack.com/@mikemichalowicz Mike's Podcast: https://mikemichalowicz.com/mikespodcast/   Do you have a lead magnet or freebie you'd like us to include in the description? Please drop the link below. https://mikemichalowicz.com/get-the-tools/   Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/   Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player.   The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    27 min
  3. FEB 24

    From Visibility to Leads: Krystal Hobbs on Modern Marketing for Home Services

    On this episode of The Kee to Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Facebook ads pro and fellow podcast host Krystal Hobbs to dig deep into the messy middle of marketing for HVAC and home services. The conversation kicks off with Krystal's origin story—how she grew up immersed in residential construction, saw the untapped potential of social media, and quickly doubled an HVAC client's business right out of college. Krystal shares her journey from university graduate to founder of Reflective Marketing, highlighting the role mindset and authentic branding play in building a sustainable business in trades marketing. The episode gets tactical as Jen and Krystal break down the difference between Google and social media marketing for contractors. Google captures urgent leads from customers in a crisis, but social media creates long-term brand awareness and demand—even when temperatures are mild and homeowner urgency is low. They discuss how human behavior drives engagement and how companies can harness both channels for year-round lead generation, emphasizing authentic growth without resorting to bro-marketing hype. Listeners are warned about common pitfalls—boosting posts, running engagement ads without strategy, and failing to maintain intentional boundaries with access and business data. Krystal delivers actionable tips for best practices in Meta account ownership, stressing that business owners must keep control of their assets even if they're never on Facebook. The emotional toll of losing account access or getting hacked is acknowledged, reframing pain points as growth opportunities. Jen and Krystal also explore the evolving landscape of AI tools in ad creation, why Advantage Plus and automation aren't magic buttons, and how creative copy and compelling offers are more important than ever for successful campaigns. The episode closes with Krystal's key to growth: Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Equip your business with the right marketing tools and build systems that work for both your brand and your sanity. It's a conversation that grounds hard marketing tactics in real, personal stories—all with a thoughtful, approachable vibe. Time Stamps & Episode Topics: 00:00 Welcome & Intro to Home Services Marketing 02:16 Krystal's background, trades upbringing & founding Reflective Marketing 03:08 How Krystal got her first HVAC client and doubled their business 04:17 The Google vs. social media debate and demand creation 05:53 Understanding how targeting differs on Google vs. Meta 09:20 Why boosting posts and engagement ads wastes money 11:45 Access issues, business manager best practices and protecting your assets 14:12 Preventing account loss and hacking nightmares 18:02 What's working now: Facebook ad copy, creative, and targeting shifts 20:32 Defining "targeting" and "creative" in plain language 21:39 Offers and pre-qualifying leads: campaign strategies for HVAC pros 23:39 Systems—automation and follow-up for lead conversion 25:33 AI tools, Advantage Plus, and the limits of "automatic" ads 28:28 Why meta marketing "isn't set it and forget it"—feeding the beast 29:59 Krystal's Key to Growth: Having multiple marketing tools Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    31 min
  4. FEB 17

    The Human Marketing Advantage: Erica Leonor on Empowering Customer Service Leaders

    In this episode of The Kee to Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Erica Leonor—an industry leader in CSR development, mindset coaching, and leadership in the trades. Erica shares her authentic journey from personal growth exploration with her mom, into running Voxa, a company focused on turning customer service representatives into powerful brand leaders. Listeners are invited into a warm, insightful conversation that's equal parts business strategy and heart, touching on how human connection and authentic communication can shape the success of a service-based business. The episode unpacks the often overlooked role CSRs play in marketing and conversion. Erica reframes the CSR's position, not as order-takers but as the essential first chapter in every customer's journey—the critical human touchpoint between marketing and booked jobs. The conversation explores tactical marketing strategies, call conversion insights, and the emotional drivers behind why customers choose one company over another. Erica lays out the DNA of effective inbound and outbound calls, and offers practical tools for developing self-leadership and team culture among CSRs. Jen and Erica go deep on the real pain points contractors face—such as low team confidence, the impact of negative scripting ("they're just price shoppers"), and the misconceptions of AI-powered support. Unique stories are shared about incentivizing CSRs, overcoming decision fatigue, and the sometimes uncomfortable process of listening to your own sales calls for growth. The message is clear: sustainable business development hinges on aligning brand voice across marketing and human touchpoints, coupled with relentless, voice-driven self-leadership. The podcast closes with actionable takeaways for entrepreneurs looking to create stronger intentional boundaries, develop team confidence, and never sacrifice the power of authentic marketing or storytelling. Erica's final key to growth? Growth always starts with aligning your internal vision and the emotions you want to evoke in your customers—because people buy not just on logic or price, but on how your brand, your people, and your story make them feel. Timestamps & Topics 00:00 Introduction – Meet Jen and Erica, personal branding, and storytelling in the trades 02:03 Erica's journey: personal development, family, and Voxa's mission for CSR growth 05:38 Why CSRs are the first conversion point in service businesses—and how misaligned branding kills marketing ROI 08:55 What triggers a need for CSR training? Spotting red flags and overlooked growth points 10:36 The power of human interaction and how a single call can make or break customer loyalty 13:53 Mindset shifts for CSRs: moving beyond "price shopper" thinking and increasing conversion rates 17:23 Tactical role plays: unlocking the power in your voice and intentionally shaping customer experience 20:15 Optimizing for different lead sources—why Facebook and social leads require tailored scripts and empathy 22:59 AI in the trades—where technology helps and where only a human can create connection or trust 27:45 Incentivization and feedback—building team culture, recognizing effort, and measuring true growth Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ Connect with Jen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. Podcast Details Podcast Details The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    40 min
  5. FEB 10

    Remarketing Gold: How to Maximize Every Customer Touchpoint with Danielle Putnam

    On this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee welcomes powerhouse guest Danielle Putnam, CEO of The New Flat Rate, to dig into what sustainable, non-reactionary growth really looks like for leaders in the trades. Danielle shares her unique perspective as someone whose entire family is immersed in contracting and trades, offering a relatable take on daily business realities. They unravel the mindset shifts and actionable systems that empower owners—and especially their teams—to earn more consistent, confident income without resorting to pressure-based selling or undervaluing hard-earned expertise. The conversation moves from the nuts and bolts of pricing and revenue clarity to the bigger picture: how to stop leaving money on the table and start embracing simple technology, systems, and authentic relationship-building. Danielle explains how The New Flat Rate's dynamic menu pricing tool gives everyone from technicians to apprentices the structure they need to present honest, high-value options that customers actually appreciate. The key isn't arm-twisting sales, but enabling homeowners to say yes to what they genuinely want—while techs feel less sales pressure and more clarity in their role. Jen and Danielle also dive into remarketing and follow-up—the low-hanging fruit that so many businesses overlook. From practical file folders to top-tier automations, the discussion gets tactical about building intentional boundaries so teams consistently nurture past leads, re-engage warm relationships, and maximize ROI on every marketing dollar. They also touch on the emotional and leadership aspects of entrepreneurship: why even the best leaders need systems, how small incremental changes compound, and how involving your team in goal-setting can unlock new levels of execution and visibility. As the episode closes, Danielle connects the dots between entrepreneurship and her recent experience running her first marathon, drawing parallels between building endurance, setting the bar, and embracing the messy middle of business growth. Jen wraps up with a powerful reminder: you don't need to fake it—authentic growth comes from knowing your numbers, believing in your brand, and aligning your team around a strategy, not just hustle or luck. Timestamps & Key Topics: 00:00 - Introduction and overview of The Growth Experience Conference 02:04 - Meet Danielle Putnam and her background in the trades 03:30 - What is The New Flat Rate? Menu pricing explained 05:31 - How better pricing systems increase revenue (beyond just tracking costs) 06:50 - Stretching your marketing dollars and the connection between sales/ops 07:52 - Scripts for upselling ethically and building best friend customer relationships 10:25 - Upsells, options, and why customers make surprising choices 11:15 - The fear of raising prices, undercharging, and incremental value ladders 13:17 - Systems and tools for remarketing and lead follow-up (with tech advice) 15:12 - Why automation (not manila folders) should run your remarketing 18:38 - Consistency in marketing: planning ahead and the importance of strategy 22:57 - Getting out of reaction mode and mapping out your marketing levers 28:29 - Leveraging resourcefulness and local alliances for consistent growth 33:26 - The value of community, referrals, and Danielle's experience with Women in HVACR 37:20 - Danielle's key to growth: always be growing, evaluate and elevate little by little Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. Podcast Details The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    40 min
  6. FEB 3

    Unlock Explosive Growth: Brigham Dickinson on Turning Your CSRs Into Marketing Machines

    In this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Brigham Dickinson, the founder of Power Selling Pros, for a transformational conversation on sustainable business development, leadership, and service marketing. Brigham shares his personal journey—from experiencing the messy middle of entrepreneurship after his first business went under, to founding Power Selling Pros and unlocking the secret to operational efficiency and marketing visibility. Together they discuss how growth happens by alignment, not by accident, and how mindset and authentic connections become the foundation for scaling a service-based business. Brigham reveals the emotional highs and lows that shaped his approach, including the necessity of self-reflection and intentional boundaries. He opens up about the real challenges home service businesses face: leads not converting, marketing systems not aligning, and the moment he realized that neglected call centers were costing owners millions. The heart of Brigham's method is human behavior—coaching CSRs to create a "wow" experience by listening, caring, and reassuring customers, and why businesses grow at the speed of their healing. He emphasizes that every pivotal conversation is a chance for intentional connection, and shares how transformational incentives and ongoing training can turn a struggling team into an empowered profit center. Jen and Brigham also dig into the role of AI and modern marketing tools in the trades. They explore the difference between deep human connection and the isolation that can come from over-automation. Brigham candidly discusses why AI cannot yet replace the empathy and nuance required in high-stakes sales conversations, especially when emotional factors are driving buying decisions. The conversation returns again and again to soft truths: growth requires vulnerability, self-leadership, and prioritizing your team's development. For listeners seeking actionable insights and relatable stories, this episode blends business strategy with personal wisdom. Jen and Brigham show how combining operational efficiency, financial clarity, and strong leadership systems with authentic branding and storytelling delivers real results—without guru hype or bro-marketing language. If you want to scale smarter, foster team alignment, and truly unlock your business's potential, this episode is a must-listen. Episode Timestamps and Key Topics: 00:00 Welcome and introduction to sustainable business development and service marketing with Jen McKee 02:16 Brigham Dickinson's personal story: failure, resilience, and discovering mindset as a growth point 06:10 Realities of home service marketing: why good leads are wasted without strong call center systems 10:48 When is the best time for owners to invest in coaching and operational alignment? 12:21 The "Pattern for Excellence" foundation: listening, caring, and reassuring as the key to booking calls 15:08 Booking every lead, the urgency list strategy, and shifting from scarcity to opportunity 20:01 The modern marketing challenge: Facebook and Meta ads, relentless follow-up, and shaping the customer conversation 21:51 Training and incentivizing CSR teams for outbound calls, memberships, and operational efficiency 26:06 Calculating profit: connecting call conversion, incentives, and financial clarity for sustainable growth 30:29 Can AI replace people in pivotal sales conversations? Empathy, nuance, and the limits of automation 34:15 Brigham's key to growth: staying hungry, staying aligned, and giving your team the opportunity to thrive Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. Podcast Details The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    39 min
  7. JAN 27

    Stop Feeling Like Just Another Company—Yossi Wachtel's Formula for Branding That Wins Hearts

    In this episode of The Kee to Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee welcomes Yossi Wachtel, owner of Monkey Wrench Plumbing, Heating, Air, and Electric in Los Angeles. Yossi shares his journey from launching a property management-focused plumbing business during the 2007 economic downturn to strategically transitioning into the residential market—a move that required a total mindset and business model shift. Yossi recounts how losing major commercial clients after a necessary price increase led him to rethink what kind of value he wanted to offer and who he wanted as his ideal client. This episode is all about the intentional pivots and personal growth that underpin real business transformation. Jen and Yossi get honest about the messy middle of entrepreneurship—the kind of growth that comes from tough lessons and not knowing what you don't know. Yossi describes the turning point that forced him to stop operating as a "bank" for commercial clients with excessive accounts receivable and to start seeking value-driven relationships instead. Their conversation highlights the emotional and mental aspects of scaling a service business: letting go of old identities, experimenting with new marketing tactics, and learning to trust in the process (even when you have no idea what ROI will look like at first). The episode also dives into the tactical side of home services marketing. Yossi talks about making the brand more visible through advertising, direct mail, SEO, and—crucially—connecting with existing customers instead of always chasing new ones. He discusses how data integrity and modern tools like ServiceTitan's heat mapping and Lace have been transformative for tracking leads and ROI, and he lifts the curtain on how his growing team collaborates to make smarter decisions about marketing and operations. Yossi credits key hires—as well as his own willingness to step back and empower others—with stretching the company's marketing budget and boosting sustainable growth. Beyond the business strategies, Jen steers the conversation back to mindset, leadership, and personal branding. Yossi reflects candidly on building his visibility on LinkedIn, overcoming fear of posting, and his passion for giving back and sharing wisdom. Jen and Yossi both agree: growth happens by alignment, not accident, and your company's success can never outpace your own personal development. The episode closes with Yossi's key to growth: focus on building yourself so you can build your team and, ultimately, your business. Timestamps: 00:00 – Yossi's origin story: launching Monkey Wrench in 2007 and surviving an economic crash 03:40 – Moving from property management/commercial to residential: why the shift happened 06:46 – Early marketing strategies: jumping into advertising, local newspapers, direct mail, and SEO 10:13 – Expanding into HVAC and electric: rebranding and service diversification 13:09 – Leveraging data and heat maps for targeted, neighborhood-based marketing in a huge city 15:04 – Internal systems and data integrity: making the numbers work to stretch your marketing budget 17:40 – Building out a marketing team; how roles and responsibilities evolve as you grow 21:38 – Strategic pivots: balancing "looking big" with maintaining a family-run, local brand feel 28:41 – The power of personal branding on LinkedIn and the ripple effect of sharing authentically 36:09 – Yossi's key to growth: personal development as the foundation for scaling a sustainable business Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    38 min
  8. JAN 20

    Lyn Askin Drops the EOS Playbook—Build a Business That Practically Runs Itself

    Episode Description What does real, sustainable growth look like in today's entrepreneurial world—especially for home service leaders and agency owners? In this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, Jen McKee sits down with Lyn Askin, a longtime agency founder turned certified EOS implementer, to unpack the gritty realities of scaling a service business. You'll hear stories of messy beginnings, turning points, and the mindset shifts required to step out of survival mode and build a company that's aligned, profitable, and—crucially—sellable. Lyn shares his journey from growing up with limited resources to bootstrapping his own agency, confronting burnout, and finally discovering the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS). He reveals how a health scare forced him to rethink his definition of success and transition his agency from relying solely on him—to a business that could thrive and even be sold. The conversation gets candid about why most business owners are the bottleneck of their growth, and how intentional boundaries and leadership frameworks like EOS can become the "missing key" to sustainable progress. Throughout the episode, Jen and Lyn break down why growth in the home services and trades isn't just about marketing strategies or chasing numbers. It's about aligning your team, building repeatable systems, and creating intentional boundaries that let you step back and allow others to lead. Lyn's personal stories illustrate how powerful "follow-up" is—not just as a sales tool but as a service mindset—reminding listeners that authentic connection will always outperform automation alone. They also explore the emotional highs and lows of entrepreneurship: overcoming fear of rejection, shifting limiting beliefs, and building a business "at the speed of your healing." With tactical examples from home services and agency life, the episode prioritizes human behavior over bro-marketing buzzwords, making space for vulnerability and the kind of honest leadership that fuels lasting results. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome to The Kee To Growth Podcast: Introducing the Growth Experience event 02:01 Meet Lyn Askin: Agency journey, entrepreneurship, & EOS background 05:18 Business bottlenecks & building a sellable company after burnout 09:09 Why follow-up and communication matter more than marketing alone 12:11 Sales psychology: Overcoming fear of rejection & mindset in client acquisition 15:30 Real examples: How maintenance plans and automations unlock hidden revenue 18:08 Mindset shifts: Investing in discipline, accountability, and support 21:07 Self-implementing EOS: Traction, pitfalls, and coaching 25:13 The hard truth: Only what you DO feeds your business, not just what you know 28:05 Framework over guesswork: How EOS clarifies vision, structure, and marketing 32:17 The key to growth: Living in a 90-day world and building intentional boundaries Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Podcast Details Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by: the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/ 2. Keywords Here are 30 topical keywords that were covered in the transcript: Home services marketing, Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), business growth, agency owner, scaling a service-based business, leadership, profit first, financial clarity, operational efficiency, AI tools, marketing visibility, private equity, building a sellable business, business valuation, follow-up strategies, client communication, sales systems, branding, digital marketing, Facebook ads, Instagram ads, TikTok ads, YouTube ads, marketing funnels, automation tools, team structure, accountability, quarterly planning, mindset in sales, overcoming fear of rejection, process documentation 3. Blog Post for this Episode Meta Description Discover how implementing the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) can transform your home services business and marketing strategy. Insights from our latest Kee To Growth episode. Unlocking Growth with EOS: How the Entrepreneurial Operating System Transforms Home Services Marketing Welcome to another episode of the Kee To Growth podcast! In today's episode, host Jen McKee sits down with certified EOS implementer and long-time agency owner Lyn Askin to explore the game-changing effects of EOS in home services businesses. If you're a service entrepreneur feeling stuck in the day-to-day or searching for ways to create sustainable growth, you won't want to miss Lyn's honest stories and practical advice for making your business not just bigger—but better. TL;DR: Key Takeaways from This Episode EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) delivers structure, clarity, and leadership to growing service businesses. Placing marketing, leadership, and operational strategy at the forefront sparks intentional growth. Systematic follow-up and clear processes often mean more than the cheapest quote—for both sales and customer trust. Even "marketing problems" can often be traced to operational issues or lack of systems. Lyn Askin's journey from near business collapse to a high-value agency exit illustrates EOS's real-world power. You don't need to sell your business to benefit from building it as if you might—make it sellable, even if you keep it. Both self-implementation and hiring an EOS expert are options; investing in support can create additional accountability. Building a business that runs without you is the true key to value, freedom, and growth. Introducing EOS: A Transformational Framework for Home Services Businesses Running a home services business isn't just about technical expertise or closing the next lead—it's about building a company that can weather any storm. On this episode of the Kee To Growth podcast, Jen McKee is joined by Lyn Askin, a certified Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) implementer. With 26 years as a marketing agency owner and now years of guiding businesses through EOS, Lyn offers a firsthand look at what it really takes to move from frazzled to flourishing. What is EOS? EOS stands for Entrepreneurial Operating System—a set of simple, practical tools designed to help you and your team get clear on your vision, execute with focus, and run your business with less chaos and more intention. Lyn's story is a testament to EOS's power. After a severe health scare that made him question the future of both his business and his family, Lyn realized his company was unsellable—it depended entirely on him. By implementing EOS, he 3xed revenue, 7xed profit, and scaled a team far larger than he managed alone. Ultimately, he built a business someone else wanted to buy. Common Myths: Is Your Marketing Problem Really a Marketing Problem? One core lesson from Lyn and Jen's conversation is that many business owners turn to more marketing when what they truly need is systems and clarity. Common pitfalls: Running everything through one person (usually the owner) Lacking measurable, repeatable processes Mistaking operational gaps for "not enough leads" Failing to follow up with potential customers (costing thousands in missed revenue) Lyn emphasizes that marketing works best when it's supported by disciplined follow-up and operational support. It's about connecting the dots between visibility, sales, and after-sales service. How EOS Empowers Home Services Leaders Structuring for Growth: Accountability Before Action EOS helps owners move from being the bottleneck to building a team that can run the business without owner intervention at every step. EOS Core Components: Vision: Get everyone aligned on where you're headed and how you'll get there. People: Ensure you have the right people in the right seats. Data: Make decisions based on real numbers, not hunches. Issues: Address obstacles head-on through structured problem-solving. Process: Document and refine the most important systems. Traction: Bring the vision down to daily, weekly, and quarterly execution. The Power of Systematic Follow-Up In Lyn's words, "The person who follows up—wins the work." Whether it's $88 or $12,000, systematic follow-up and proactive customer care drive revenue and trust. Actionable insights for home service businesses: Use automation tools (like Go High Level, Chirp, CRMs) to follow up with leads and clients. Don't stop at one reminder—consistent, polite follow-up can multiply sales. Set up recurring automations for maintenance reminders, review requests, or new offers. Building a Business That's Sellable (Even If You Don't Sell) Lyn makes it clear: "You can't sell a job." If your business relies solely on you, it holds little value—either for a buyer or for your own freedom. EOS encourages you to build with intention, putting leadership, process, and profitability first. Key EOS-driven habits: Implement quarterly reviews to track progress toward goals (Vision, People, Data, Issues, Process, Traction). Establish clear roles and an accountability chart (not just old-school org charts). Treat your company as if you might sell it—structure it for independence from the owner. Practi

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Welcome to The Kee to Growth, the ultimate podcast for trade business owners ready to level up their marketing game! Hosted by marketing maven Jen McKee, this show dives deep into the strategies, tools, and insights you need to dominate the digital landscape. Specializing in TikTok marketing for trades, Jen shares her expertise to help you turn clicks into customers and viewers into lifelong clients. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just getting started in the trades, The Kee to Growth delivers actionable tips, inspiring success stories, and the latest trends in marketing tailored just for your industry. Tune in, take notes, and unlock the key to exponential growth for your business!

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