Sponsor Highlight: River City Mortgage LLC, NMLS 142954, https://rchomeloans.com/. Call or Text: Nick Hunter 513-490-4235. In this episode, Sam Stone sits down with Roger Short to discuss the risk of moving to America to start a phone book company. After building a successful brand and company, Roger saw the change iPhone and Google were going to be on the Phone Book industry and took a risk again, jumping into insurance sales. Roger has grown to now having 2000+ agents at his company, Lasting Mark, and hosts his own podcast for insurance agents with over 100K listeners a month. Roger’s story of risk and faith will encourage you, but his love for his family and clients will challenge you to be better in whatever field you’re in. Roger's Company: Lasting Mark: https://lastingmark.com/. Roger's Podcast: Life Insurance Academy: https://youtube.com/@LifeInsuranceAcademy?si=gRxpBV7EEW4rwBIf. Follow Roger on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rogershort/. Timestamps: (0:28) Meet Roger Short, (1:41) Building a Successful Insurance Podcast, (4:20) Roger’s Entrepreneurial Background, (6:25) Studying Theology & Finding Sales, (8:00) His First Steps Into Business, (8:38) Selling Yellow Pages Advertising, (10:40) The Opportunity That Changed Everything, (12:01) Moving to America With Less Than $7,000, (14:01) Starting a Phone Book Company, (16:11) Selling a Product That Didn’t Exist Yet, (16:49) Bartering for Hotels & Food, (18:22) Growing the Business to $62 Million, (19:05) The Recession, iPhone & Google Change Everything, (20:09) Knowing It Was Time to Pivot, (21:50) Walking Away From the Company, (22:38) Discovering the Life Insurance Business, (23:55) The Client Meeting That Changed Roger’s Direction, (27:12) Building a Business That Makes a Difference, (29:10) Starting Over in Insurance, (30:44) Betting on Himself Again, (31:41) Building Lasting Mark, (33:39) Why Roger Takes Calculated Risks, (35:47) Understanding What Customers Really Need, (36:35) Ethos, Pathos & Logos in Sales, (39:11) Roger’s Personal Motivation for Taking Risks, (39:56) Advice From His Father-in-Law That Changed His Life, (40:43) Starting From Scratch in Insurance, (43:17) Why Life Insurance Became Personal, (45:09) The Meaning Behind Lasting Mark, (45:46) Christian Values in Business, (47:05) Managing a National Organization, (48:14) Building a Global Team, (50:18) Helping Agents Build Their Own Businesses, (53:00) How New Agents Can Get Started, (55:34) Roger’s Speaking Events & Leadership, (58:36) Roger’s Advice for Young Risk-Takers, (59:20) Take a Chance on Yourself, (1:01:13) Surround Yourself With the Right People, (1:02:18) What’s the Worst That Can Happen?, (1:03:08) Why Sam Needs to Keep Going, (1:04:18) The Commitment to 100 Episodes