Rebel Clinicians Podcast

Alex and John

The Rebel Clinicians Podcast is your home for daring conversations and innovative insights designed to transform the world of mental health and holistic healing. Hosted by seasoned therapists and healers who refuse to be confined by the traditional therapy model, each episode explores the intersection of spirituality, ancient wisdom, and modern therapy. Whether you’re a therapist, social worker, energy healer, or simply someone seeking deeper healing and personal growth, we’re here to inspire, challenge, and guide you on your path. In each episode, we dive into powerful topics like integrating psychedelics and indigenous wisdom, breaking free from the constraints of “the couch,” financial freedom, and building an authentic practice that reflects your unique magic. We’ll share stories of clinicians who are thriving by being true to themselves, and we’ll reveal practical tools for expanding your practice beyond boundaries while nurturing your soul. From financial strategies and marketing tips to shamanic practices and spiritual journeys, this podcast brings together everything you need to become an empowered and revolutionary healer. Join us in our mission to disrupt the field, heal deeply, and redefine what it means to be a clinician—one episode at a time. Welcome to the tribe.

  1. FEB 16

    S2E15: “Delegate, Automate, Eliminate: A Rebel Clinician's Guide to Diversifying Your Income”

    S2E15: “Delegate, Automate, Eliminate: A Rebel Clinician's Guide to Diversifying Your Income” Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell  In this episode of The Rebel Clinicians Podcast, Alex and John start with a hilariously un-soothing chat about ASMR--whispers, nail tapping, "gutter water," and all. What begins as playful banter about oddly specific sensory triggers becomes the doorway into a much bigger conversation: how clinicians can diversify their income without abandoning who they are or what they care about. Alex names the growing trend of therapists feeling stuck, underpaid, or burned out in the therapy chair and wondering, "What else can I do?" John steps in as the quintessential multi-hyphenate clinician: therapist, yoga teacher, baker, retreat leader, Thai massage practitioner, podcaster, clothing designer, and new short-term rental host in Heber, Utah. Together, they unpack how all of John's ventures are rooted in one core value--being of service--while Alex shares how his compass is curiosity. Instead of waiting for some massive bolt of passion to strike, they invite listeners to follow the breadcrumbs of joy, service, curiosity, and adventure to discover new paths and income streams. From there, the conversation gets practical. John shares how he uses lists--creative lists, idea lists, and to-do lists--to get thoughts out of his head and back into focus, and how meditation mirrors the process of gently returning to the task at hand. Alex offers a powerful framework for taming overwhelm: decide what only you can do, what you can delegate, what you can automate, and what you can completely eliminate. Together, they explore how values like hospitality can move beyond the therapy room into retreats, baking, short-term rentals, and other offerings that still honor the heart of healing work. Underneath it all is a compassionate reminder that rest and "just for fun" projects are not luxuries; they're essential for preventing burnout. Not every idea has to become a business, not every project has to be finished, and not every free minute has to be "productive." This episode is an invitation to all you lovely little rebels to reclaim your creativity, honor your values, and let your work expand in ways that feel joyful and sustainable. Download the audio episode on Spotify, and if you're new here, be sure to subscribe so you never miss a Monday release. To go even further with us, become a member of our new Patreon Page for as little as $5 per month and support the ongoing work of Rebel Clinicians as we build a community of helpers, healers, and wild-hearted entrepreneurs.

    56 min
  2. FEB 9

    S2E14: “The North: Eldership, Integration, and the Wisdom of Winter”

    S2E14: “The North: Eldership, Integration, and the Wisdom of Winter” Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell  Alex and John complete the Sacred Directions series with the North--the direction of eldership, integration, stillness, and mature wisdom. The North isn't simply "getting older." It's becoming an elder: someone who embodies what they've learned, holds steady in the wind, and lives with discernment, boundaries, and ethical power. Through vivid archetypes--Gandalf in the snow and the buffalo standing unshaken on the plains--this episode explores the quiet strength that comes from walking the full wheel: East (beginnings), South (activation), West (transformation), and North (integration). You'll hear how the buffalo symbolizes abundance and gratitude, and why "enough" is a spiritual practice--taking only what you need, honoring what sustains you, and recognizing the many forms of abundance beyond money: breath, creativity, love, friendship, and support. Alex and John also bring in cross-cultural perspectives on the North: - Norse/Germanic teachings on winter endurance and the dual nature of ice (preserving and shaping) - Celtic wisdom that frames winter as gestation--the womb-space where the next beginning is quietly formed - Andean/Peruvian medicine, including the role of the teacher-healer and the North's call to service beyond ego Clinically, the North becomes a powerful map for therapy and healing: after connection, skill-building, and trauma processing, what comes next is the integration phase--learning how to live without the old burden. Alex shares how he helps clients move from "I'm not controlled by this anymore" to "Now what do I do with my life?"--including real-world practices that build embodiment, independence, and purpose. New listeners: subscribe--new episodes drop every Monday. And don't forget to download the audio episode on Spotify. Want more content and behind-the-scenes support for your healing work? Join our Patreon for as little as $5/month.

    1 hr
  3. FEB 2

    S2E13: “West Medicine: Letting Go, Grief, and the Courage to Transform”

    S2E13: “West Medicine: Letting Go, Grief, and the Courage to Transform” Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell  The Sacred Directions series continues on this week's episode of The Rebel Clinicians Podcast, as Alex and John turn toward the West--the direction of the setting sun, the long exhale, and the powerful medicine of letting go. In many traditions, the West is associated with autumn, the element of water, and the invitation to slow down, become still, and listen more deeply. Alex and John explore how West medicine supports clinicians, healers, and helpers in working with emotion, grief, shadow material, and transformation--the places we tend to avoid, but the places where real growth often begins. They reflect on Bear as a guiding archetype for the West: retreating into the cave, digesting what life has offered, and emerging changed. They also explore related cross-cultural teachings, including Jaguar in South American cosmology, Celtic themes of the Otherworld and dream-time, and Norse symbolism of the sea and initiation. This conversation weaves together practical clinical insights and embodied tools--such as journaling prompts, boundary work, somatic support, trauma processing modalities, and TRE (Tension & Trauma Releasing Exercises)--to help you explore what you're carrying, what no longer serves, and what you're ready to release. You'll also hear John connect the West to yogic symbolism of the back body--support, resilience, and the deeper question: do you have your own back? If you're in a season of transition, reflection, or emotional processing, this episode offers language, structure, and grounded practices to help you move forward with clarity and maturity--without leaving parts of yourself behind. Download the audio episode on Spotify, and if you're new here, subscribe so you never miss an episode. The Rebel Clinicians Podcast drops every Monday. And if you want to support the show and access bonus content, become a member of our Patreon community for as little as $5 per month.

    1h 2m
  4. JAN 26

    S2E12: “South Medicine: Fire, Adolescence, and the Art of Authentic Action”

    S2E12: “South Medicine: Fire, Adolescence, and the Art of Authentic Action” Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell  In this week's episode of The Rebel Clinicians Podcast, airing December 8th, Alex and John continue their Sacred Directions series by journeying into the South--the realm of fire, adolescence, creativity, and bold, messy, human aliveness. Building on last episode's exploration of the East as a place of new beginnings and fresh perspective, this conversation asks: what happens when we stop contemplating change and actually start living it? The South becomes a map for that process--where heat, motion, and identity collide. Alex and John weave together Indigenous, Andean, Celtic, Nordic, yogic, and Ayurvedic wisdom to explore the South as a direction of summer, midday sun, action, and life force. They talk about adolescence as a powerful metaphor for this phase of the journey: playful, impulsive, vulnerable, and hungry for authenticity. Along the way, they unpack how this fiery energy can either fuel our growth or burn us out when it's not held by healthy boundaries. Listeners will hear about the medicine of Mouse, Coyote, Serpent, and even Queen Bee--animal allies of the South who embody detail, trickster wisdom, embodiment, community, and unapologetic leadership. Alex and John discuss how these energies show up in ceremony, yoga practice, and daily life, as well as what happens when we ignore natural cycles in favor of capitalist hyper-productivity. From a clinical and healing perspective, the episode offers concrete ways therapists, yoga teachers, and space-holders can work with South energy: - Using breathwork and pranayama (like bellows breath and alternate nostril breathing) to stoke or regulate inner fire. - Inviting somatic awareness around heat and softness in the body, and gently encouraging energy to move rather than forcing it. - Reframing anger and desire as powerful teachers for boundaries, truth-telling, and protection. - Incorporating ritual and ceremony--candles, burning old narratives, color magic, and invoking elemental fire or animal spirits--to support transformation. - Exploring how food, creativity, and community connection can nourish life force without pushing people into more burnout. Throughout the episode, Alex and John also name the seasonal tension of recording in mid-November: feeling tired and hibernation-ready while talking about summer fire. They invite listeners to consider how to honor both--keeping a small, cozy flame going instead of forcing a blazing bonfire in the middle of emotional winter. The episode closes with powerful reflection questions you can use for yourself or your clients, including: Where have you dimmed your fire to stay safe or acceptable? What needs to burn away for your authentic self to rise? And what would it actually look like to live with a little more heat, truth, and heart? Listen to this episode on Spotify and be sure to download the audio so you can return to it as part of your own seasonal and spiritual practice. If you're new here, subscribe to The Rebel Clinicians Podcast so you never miss an episode--we release new shows every Monday. Want to go further with us? Become a member of our Rebel Clinicians Patreon Page for as little as $5 per month to access bonus content, special offerings, and extra tools for clinicians, healers, and helpers on the edge of change.

    1 hr
  5. JAN 20

    S2E11: “The East -- New Beginnings, Breath, and Clinical Rituals”

    S2E11: “The East -- New Beginnings, Breath, and Clinical Rituals” 🎧 Listen on [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/2CgnaxzPtvDCdQIbhxi9OM?si=hRzhkKSuTfCURWqyHjhkHg) Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell  Directions Series: The East launches our multi-episode exploration of the Directions--East, South, West, North, plus Above, Below, and Center--and asks a simple question with profound clinical impact: How do we bring the energy of dawn into the therapy room? In this conversation, Alex and John treat the East as both a map and a method: the place of birth, renewal, clarity, vision, and inspiration. They trace how cultures across the world converge on similar insights--Native traditions (eagle/vision), Celtic/Druidic lineages (Brigid, Air, Beltane), Yogic practice (facing East for Surya Namaskar), Chinese medicine (Spring/Wood/Liver for movement and flexibility), and Mongolian/Nordic sunrise rituals--then translate those ideas into accessible clinical tools. You'll hear practical ways to work with the East in session and at home: micro-rituals that orient to the start of the day, ACT values prompts that shift "yesterday's story," IFS language for contacting Self as an inner sun, breathwork to clear mental fog, and movement sequences to unstick stagnation. The result is a portable ritual frame that helps clinicians and clients regulate, find perspective, and re-author the narrative--one sunrise at a time. Listen on Spotify (download the episode and share a rating), and if you're new here, subscribe so you catch fresh episodes every Monday. Want extras? Join our new Patreon for as little as $5/month to get sneak previews, bonus content, and course materials that expand each episode.

    50 min
  6. 12/09/2025

    S2E10: “Baking as Healing -- Intention, Magic, and the Art of Clinical Practice”

    S2E10: “Baking as Healing -- Intention, Magic, and the Art of Clinical Practice” Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell  Baking as Healing -- Intention, Magic, and the Art of Clinical Practice What does baking cookies have to do with the healing arts? Everything. In this special episode of The Rebel Clinicians Podcast, your hosts John Cottrell and Alex Runolfson take you into John's kitchen--yes, you heard that right--to bake chocolate chip cookies and stir up a conversation about intention, nourishment, artistry, and authentic healing. As the oven warms and ingredients come together, so does a powerful metaphor: what we create--whether it's a cookie or a clinical session--carries the intention we put into it. This isn't a cooking show (though you will walk away with the best cookie recipe ever). It's an invitation to rethink your relationship to healing, business, food, and how you show up in your practice. You'll explore: - The magic of intention--how each ingredient holds a purpose, and how that purpose translates into therapy and healing work. - Why clinicians should bless their cookies (and never curse them). - What it means to develop your own artistry as a healer--not just follow the script. - How preparation (mise en place) is as important in therapy as it is in the kitchen. - How to stop "overmixing" your emotions and let the batter of life rest and rise. - The concept of "artistry" in healing spaces--what makes your presence unforgettable to a client. - Why you should stop saving the "good dishes" for special occasions--and how that applies to your life. Whether you're a therapist, coach, bodyworker, or creative, this episode blends personal story, spiritual practice, and a touch of humor to remind you: your magic is in the way you mix the ordinary into the extraordinary. 💛 Want to support the show? Join us on Patreon for as little as $5/month--or try the FREE TIER to browse content before joining! You'll get access to exclusive behind-the-scenes videos (like the full baking episode), worksheets, extended discussions, and more.

    1h 5m
  7. 11/17/2025

    S2E9: “Energy, Reiki & Community Healing with Amy Conn”

    S2E9: “Energy, Reiki & Community Healing with Amy Conn” Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell  In this week's Rebel Clinicians, Alex Runolfson and John Cottrell sit down with healer, author, and longtime yoga teacher Amy Conn to explore how energy, belief, and community shape real-world healing. Amy shares her path from 34 years as a public-school reading specialist to her work today as a Master-Level Intuitive Reiki practitioner, yoga instructor for the University of Utah Burn Unit Camps, and advocate for cancer survivors. Drawing from her own cancer journey and her book Revealing Grace, Amy offers a grounded view of Reiki--how it balances the body's energy centers, why "listening is medicine," and how simple elements (sound, scent, temperature, light, breath) create a safe space for transformation. You'll hear powerful stories of community care (Survivor Wellness, inclusive retreats, and peer groups), how integrative approaches (Western treatment + yoga + energy work) support recovery, and why clinicians benefit from working with vibration and frequency in the therapy room. From kids and animals as natural teachers to the practical ways practitioners can "lighten the load," this episode invites us to believe in our own medicine and make room for a little magic. 👉 Download the audio on Spotify and subscribe so you never miss a Monday release. 💛 Support our new Patreon--become a member for as little as $5/month to access bonus episodes, worksheets, and more. 📅 Air date: Nov 17 (new episodes every Monday)

    1h 15m

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The Rebel Clinicians Podcast is your home for daring conversations and innovative insights designed to transform the world of mental health and holistic healing. Hosted by seasoned therapists and healers who refuse to be confined by the traditional therapy model, each episode explores the intersection of spirituality, ancient wisdom, and modern therapy. Whether you’re a therapist, social worker, energy healer, or simply someone seeking deeper healing and personal growth, we’re here to inspire, challenge, and guide you on your path. In each episode, we dive into powerful topics like integrating psychedelics and indigenous wisdom, breaking free from the constraints of “the couch,” financial freedom, and building an authentic practice that reflects your unique magic. We’ll share stories of clinicians who are thriving by being true to themselves, and we’ll reveal practical tools for expanding your practice beyond boundaries while nurturing your soul. From financial strategies and marketing tips to shamanic practices and spiritual journeys, this podcast brings together everything you need to become an empowered and revolutionary healer. Join us in our mission to disrupt the field, heal deeply, and redefine what it means to be a clinician—one episode at a time. Welcome to the tribe.