Wisdom of the Way

Sai

From our home on the transformative Camino de Santiago in Spain, join me as we share stories with inspiring pilgrims, courageous adventurers and wise teachers from all over the world. Blessed to be living on this sacred path for over a decade and to have met, served and accompanied thousands of pilgrims, I’m honoured to be sharing some of these magical encounters. And, what we realise, is that these extraordinary outer caminos are really the invitation to walk our Inner Camino. These are conversations and explorations to inspire, enliven and explore camino wisdom and life wisdom.

  1. May 22

    Walking for His Mother — A Camino Journey of Love, Healing & Peace

    He came to walk for his mother.To light a candle.To carry love across the Camino. In this episode of Wisdom of the Way, I sit with Pablo, a pilgrim from Ecuador walking the Camino de Santiago with a simple and beautiful intention: to arrive in Santiago and light a candle for his mother, who has been going through a difficult time. What unfolds is a tender conversation about love, solitude, healing, and the quiet peace that can come when we stop rushing and allow life to meet us more deeply. Pablo shares about his relationship with his mother, his years of moving between Ecuador, Italy and France, his love for music, and a past chapter of alcohol, drugs and darkness that one day, mysteriously, seemed to fall away. “Since that day, I always say life is a gift. Because I really feel it. I am able to breathe, to see, to hear. And that is enough.” Together we speak about walking alone, sleeping outside, screaming into the open landscape, forgiving oneself, and the strange grace that can come when we stop escaping our own heart. For Pablo, the Camino has become a place of honesty — a place where there is nowhere to hide, and where old pain can slowly begin to soften. This is a conversation about simplicity, tenderness, self-forgiveness, and the quiet miracle of being alive. May Pablo’s story remind you that the path does not always need to be rushed. Sometimes the deepest gifts come when we slow down enough to receive them. --------- To learn more about Camino retreats, online practice, and the Wisdom of the Way newsletter: www.wisdomoftheway.com Instagram: @wisdomoftheway_

    49 min

  2. Mar 6

    “Another Reason to Stay Alive” - The Camino Became His Palliative Care

    Some conversations stay with you long after the Camino ends.In this episode of Wisdom of the Way, I share a treasured moment with Gary, a man whose presence on the Camino touched many lives.After our meeting, Gary wrote to me:"Another friend on the Camino. Another reason to stay alive. Such a precious gift."Those words stayed with me.In this conversation we explore something rarely spoken about:The CAMINO AS A FORM OF PALLIATIVE CARE.Not as an escape from life…but as a way of entering life more fully.When time becomes precious, something shifts.Priorities fall away.Small moments become sacred.And walking becomes something deeper than a journey.Gary shares openly about:• Living fully in the face of terminal illness• Walking the Camino with stage-four cancer• Why pilgrimage can become a form of healing• The power of friendship and human connection• Walking not away from death - but toward lifeGary has walked the Camino since 1994.After a previous cancer in 2008 and a recent diagnosis of advanced prostate cancer, he returned again to Spain, carrying his own pack and continuing his pilgrimage.For Gary, the Camino became something profound:a form of medicine.This episode is a tribute to a beautiful human being and a reminder that sometimes the Camino offers the simplest and most powerful medicine:one step at a time. OFTEN THE CAMINO IS NOT ABOUT REACHING SANTIAGO. IT IS ABOUT REMEMBERING HOW TO LIVE. --------------- TOPICS in this EPISODE: Camino de Santiago pilgrimageWalking the Camino with cancerCamino healing journeyPilgrimage and personal transformationSpiritual lessons from the Camino ---------------- 00:34 Meeting Gary 03:00 Gary’s Remarkable Life 05:34 Terminal Diagnosis 13:21 Walking Without Pressure 17:37 Camino as a Palliative Tool 26:44 Post Camino Blues 28:37 Letting Go of Expectations 32:05 Camino as First Internet 33:46 Returning Home Integration 47:22 Toolbox for Terminal Illness 55:26 Walking Meditation Method ______________________________________________________________ ABOUT Wisdom of the Way Wisdom of the Way explores pilgrimage, inner transformation, and the deeper lessons found while walking the Camino de Santiago. Website:wisdomoftheway.com Camino Transformation Journeys:2026 retreats and pilgrimages (www.wisdomoftheway.com/retreats2026) Insta: @wisdomoftheway_

    1h 3m

  3. Jan 26

    He Fled Iran. Then Walked the Camino for Freedom (with Kian)

    In this episode, I sit with Kian, an Iranian pilgrim living in Belgium, whose Camino walk carries a quiet but powerful message of Woman, Life, Freedom. Kian shares what it means to leave Iran as a refugee after years of activism, to walk in solidarity with the women of his country, and to keep speaking with humility and care, even when silence might feel safer. As the conversation unfolds, it softens into something deeply human. Kian reflects on how the Camino becomes people, how love is tasted through simple encounters, and how meditation helped him through depression - not by fixing anything, but by learning acceptance, again and again. This conversation was recorded some time ago, yet it arrives in a tender and urgent moment. With information inside Iran heavily restricted, reports of deaths in recent crackdowns vary widely. Wherever the numbers settle, the human grief is real. Our prayer is for the people of Iran - for protection, dignity, and liberation. A conversation about courage without hardness, practice without perfection, and love that appears when we slow down enough to meet life as it is. 05:19 The Woman, Life, Freedom Movement11:10 Cultural Differences and Challenges14:22 Kian's Activism and Refugee Experience17:10 Reflections on the Camino Journey26:42 Practices on the Camino29:18 The Power of Meditation and Yoga32:14 Accepting and Overcoming Depression36:20 Living in the Moment More details, courses, retreats and updates: www.wisdomoftheway.com Insta: @wisdomoftheway_

    43 min

  4. 12/23/2025

    A Life Worth Living – All These Humans with Bambu | Wisdom of the Way

    "STORIES THAT CHANGE LIVES" In this episode I sit down with Bambu — travelling storyteller, photographer, and creator of the YouTube project All These Humans, which now has more than 430k subscribers. For the past ten years, Bambu has been living on the road, the last five in the same motorhome with his family. What began as photographing people living on the streets of Madrid has grown into a global project of human stories, alternative ways of living, and quiet revolutions of the heart. This conversation — Bambu’s first ever interview in English — explores purpose, fear, simplicity, connection, and what it truly means to live “a life worth living.” We talk about travelling as pilgrimage, facing the fear of change, the art of human connection, and how small, consistent steps can move us toward a very different kind of life. It’s a gentle, honest invitation to look at your own path: the stories you’re living, the dreams you’ve deferred, and the next small step that might bring you closer to a life that feels real. _________________ Bambu & I met on the Camino de Santiago when Bambu came to create one of his films about my life and introspection along on the Way. 🎥 Watch the film Bambu made with me here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FtlKyZ4UyM Explore more of Bambu & All These Humans here: 📺 YouTube: @AllTheseHumans 🌐 Website: https://allthesehumans.com/ ___________________ 02:23 Bambu's Journey and Philosophy 04:47 The Impact of 'All These Humans' 07:19 Balancing Passion and Purpose 11:36 The Power of Photography and Human Connection 13:25 Lessons from Traveling and Pilgrimage 16:33 Capturing Moments and Making Connections 24:46 Overcoming Fear of Rejection 27:16 Teaching Digital Nomadism 29:44 Manifestation and Discipline 33:59 Defining a Life Worth Living 36:35 Reflecting on Happiness and Purpose 40:28 Inspiring Stories from the Road 46:41 Facing Fears and Taking Steps

    50 min

  5. 10/15/2025

    Honouring Jen – A Magical Meeting on the Camino (with Caitlin)

    A chance intention. A synchronistic connection. And a shared friend in spirit. Just hours after setting the intention to record a new episode, I met Caitlin Purcell—a fellow pilgrim—through pure synchronicity. What we soon discovered was our deep, unexpected link through our dear friend Jen Hutchison, who passed away three years ago. Caitlin and Jen were from the same small country town in Australia… and I had my own powerful, life-changing meeting with Jen 13 years ago on the Camino. In this heartfelt conversation, we explore the inner pilgrimage beneath the kilometres—expectations and surrender, the stories we tell ourselves, listening to the body, and the tender thresholds of life: motherhood, mid-life transitions, and returning home changed. Caitlin speaks candidly about blisters, knee pain, and “mother guilt,” but also about learning to receive, and how love, community, and courage make the Way accessible to all. Together we touch the Hero’s Journey, the magic of synchronicity, and how to bring Camino wisdom back into daily life. A gentle, grounded and luminous exchange—honouring Jen, the Way, and the quiet guidance that meets us when we’re open. _____________________________________________________ Timestamps 02:51 Caitlin’s Journey and Family Life 04:14 Synchronicity and Connection with Jen 05:21 The Healing Power of the Camino 15:05 Challenges and Lessons on the Path 21:45 Reflections on the Camino Experience 22:17 Seeking Inner Learning and Self-Discovery 22:47 The Unexpected Gifts of Crisis 24:18 The Hero’s Journey and Personal Growth 28:48 Returning Home and Integrating Lessons 34:31 Navigating Life Transitions 38:59 The Importance of Connection and Community ______________________________________________________ 🌏 Join us for a PILGRIMAGE OF A LIFETIME — INDIA, November 2025 (ONLY 2 SPOTS LEFT!) → wisdomoftheway.com/indiapilgrimage An incredible journey to align with your deepest self, supported by sacred lands, rituals, and community. 🕊️ Stay connected — retreats, practices, and Camino wisdom: → wisdomoftheway.com/about#subscribe

    43 min

  6. 09/19/2025

    Yogic Pilgrimage and the Camino to Sacred India with Karenji

    Join us for a PILGRIMAGE OF A LIFETIME to INDIA, this NOVEMBER 2025!!https://www.wisdomoftheway.com/indiapilgrimageThis will be an incredible journey to align with our deepest self, with the support of life and these sacred lands and rituals! We are so excited to be able to offer this opportunity to you and live this life shaping experience together._________________Pilgrimage of a Yogi and Inner Journey: Camino Wisdom & Sacred IndiaI’m very excited to introduce you to a dear friend Karenji, an experienced pilgrim who has taught yoga to hundreds in India. Together, we explore reflections on our recent walking retreat along the Camino de Santiago and the power of pilgrimages both external and internal. We delve into Karen's experiences teaching in India and explore the value of yogic practices in living a connected and fulfilled life. AND… drum roll… in the last part of the episode WE SHARE EXCITING PLANS for our journey to INDIA in NOVEMBER, offering you an opportunity to join for the last places on this transformative pilgrimage.00:38 Meet Karen: A Journey of Yoga and Pilgrimage02:35 Karen's Reflections on the Camino03:32 The Essence of Pilgrimage04:42 Personal Growth Through Repeated Pilgrimages12:47 The Yogic Approach to Life16:44 Integrating Yogic Practices28:43 The Importance of Space and Reflection37:57 The Long-Term Benefits of Consistent Practice40:23 Living an Integrated Life42:27 Upcoming Journey to India44:24 The Inspiration Behind the India Pilgrimage52:33 Itinerary of the India Pilgrimage__________________________For other retreats, practices and more Camino wisdom, sign up to our newsletter at:https://www.wisdomoftheway.com/about#subscribe

    1h 4m

  7. 08/25/2025

    How 90 days in silence transformed Shankara's life

    Join us for a PILGRIMAGE OF A LIFETIME to INDIA, this NOVEMBER 2025!!https://www.wisdomoftheway.com/indiapilgrimageThis will be an incredible journey to align with our deepest self, with the support of life and these incredible lands, and amazing guides such as Shankara! I'm very excited to be able to offer this opportunity to you and live this life shaping experience together._________________Transformative Pilgrimage to the Sacred Mountain of Arunachala: In this episode of ‘Wisdom of the Way’ I am blessed to meet with Shankara, who shares his profound experiences and wisdom from his transformative journey that has led him to live his calling at the feet Arunachala Mountain in India - a famous pilgrimage walked by thousands daily. In this heartfelt conversation, Shankara discusses the significance of pilgrimage, the power of devotion, and the impact of spiritual practices like Agni Hotra (sacred fire ceremony). He beautifully shares some of his life story, his brave transition from being a pilot in the United States to following his heart’s calling to return to his mother land, India. Shankara speaks about his 90 days in silence, the importance of trust and surrender, and how aligning with one’s true calling can not only change the course of life but lead us to a life of much greater fulfilment and peace. The episode invites us to connect deeply with the sacredness of our inner journey and the wisdom already exists within us.00:34 Meeting Shankara: A Journey of Pilgrimage01:32 Invitation to our Indian Pilgrimage02:44 Shankara's Story: Living at Arunachala06:11 Shankara's Pilgrimage to India08:38 The Call to Freedom and Healing19:42 Finding a Master and Surrendering28:42 The Practice of 'I Am' and Inner Silence34:20 Arriving at Arunachala37:43 Introduction to Arunachala and Its Spiritual Significance38:37 The Practice of Sadhana and Its Importance40:24 Understanding Karma and the Mind's Conditioning43:34 The Power of Silence and Personal Transformation46:47 The Journey of 90 Days in Silence55:59 Founding Shivalaya and the Role of Agni Hotra (Fire Ceremony)01:04:15 The Technology and Benefits of Agni Hotra (Fire Ceremony)__________________________For other retreats, practices and more camino wisdom, sign up to our newsletter at:https://www.wisdomoftheway.com/about#subscribe

    1h 11m

  8. 07/30/2025

    Sai: My personal story (& inspiration for the podcast)

    Welcome to Wisdom of The Way Podcast! I’m Sai, your host, and I'm really excited to be bringing this podcast to you. It's a project that has been a vision of mine for many years, filled with heartfelt conversations and recorded interviews with incredible souls from all walks of life. The purpose of this podcast is to inspire, enliven, and explore the wisdom found on the Camino de Santiago and in life.  In this first episode, recorded a couple of years ago, I delve into what you can expect from the podcast and share some of my own story—the journey that brought me here. From growing up in the ‘bush’ in Australia to eventually being led to the Camino. I reflect on various adventures and pivotal moments in my life—from a 4 month solo kayaking journey to living with Australia's First Nations people in the desert, and even a 2 year motorbike journey from Ireland to Ghana via Iran :)  I also discuss the creation of Terra de Luz, a healing space on the Camino de Santiago, which has served and accompanied thousands of pilgrims along this sacred path over the years. I invite you to reach out, ask questions, and share with us as we explore the depths of our inner and outer journeys together. 00:00 Introduction to Wisdom of The Way 00:42 The Vision Behind the Podcast 03:09 The Significance of the Camino de Santiago 06:08 The Metaphor of the Camino for Life 12:08 Personal Journey and Background 18:41 Adventures and Learnings 30:35 Creating a Healing Space on the Camino - For retreats, practices and more camino wisdom, sign up to our newsletter at: https://www.wisdomoftheway.com/about#subscribe

    49 min
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From our home on the transformative Camino de Santiago in Spain, join me as we share stories with inspiring pilgrims, courageous adventurers and wise teachers from all over the world. Blessed to be living on this sacred path for over a decade and to have met, served and accompanied thousands of pilgrims, I’m honoured to be sharing some of these magical encounters. And, what we realise, is that these extraordinary outer caminos are really the invitation to walk our Inner Camino. These are conversations and explorations to inspire, enliven and explore camino wisdom and life wisdom.

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  • Creator
    Sai
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    18
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