A lively, field-tested masterclass in channel presence and partnership craft. Hosts John McCabe and Jeff Lennon welcome Mitch Simon —known on LinkedIn as “#MitchOnTheRoad”—for a candid, humorous, and deeply practical conversation about life “in the field” as a channel leader. The trio covers what it really takes to operate in the trenches with partners, the mindset shift from direct sales to channel leadership, intentional travel strategies, trust-based collaboration, and how AI is already reshaping the work. From Hawaiian shirts, Spinal Tap and Braveheart quips, and production banter to no-nonsense tactics, the episode blends wit with wisdom: channel isn’t easier—it’s broader, more relational, and demands discipline, empathy, and in-person presence. Who’s Mitch Simon? - 30+ years in tech sales (since 1993), with 20+ in direct sales before moving into channel about a decade ago. - Pivoted to channel to escape direct-sales burnout and to leverage hard-won sales experience in partner-led growth. - First channel role: pitched his transferable value directly to a VP of Sales (Bruce DeShane)—as a sales-minded connector rather than a playbook-only operator—focused on helping reps and partners win together. - Operates with a territory-level lens: prioritizes long-term health over single deals; thinks like a GM. Tone and Energy - Conversational, witty, and authentic. Hawaiian shirts, Spinal Tap “turn it to 11,” and Braveheart references keep things light while staying practical. - Core belief: channel isn’t “easier” than direct—it’s different, broader, and relentlessly relationship-driven. Key Themes and Insights Channel ≠ Easier; It’s Broader - Direct sales is laser-focused; channel requires a wider aperture across partners, sellers, and customers. - You don’t dial intensity down—you distribute it across more stakeholders and a longer horizon. Being Present Is Non-Negotiable - “You start by being present—caring enough to show up where they are.” - Phone and Slack don’t replace showing up, breaking bread, and sharing real experiences. - The “Oh by the way” effect: after real in-person time—on the walk to the car, post-lunch—a partner drops the true nugget: “Oh, by the way… I think I have a lead for you.” Those serendipities rarely happen on short calls. Real Partnerships Aren’t the Paper; They’re the People - A contract doesn’t create collaboration—relationships do. - If only one rep at a partner picks up your call, you don’t have a real partnership; broaden engagement to the second, third, fifth, seventh rep. Coach, Therapist, Connector - Channel leaders manage emotions, align incentives, and guide sellers and partners toward rational decisions under pressure. - Translate between sales priorities and partner motions while maintaining perspective on territory health. Events and SCO Season - Sales Kickoffs (SCOs) and similar events: the ROI comes from intentional meetings before, during, and immediately after—not just “chugs and hugs.” - Treat events as business-development engines—plan your meetings, use the energy, and follow through. AI Is Here—Be Pragmatic and Get Good at It - “You are not going to be replaced by AI. You are going to be replaced by someone who knows how to use AI.” - Use secure, closed-loop systems for sensitive, company-specific queries; use public tools for general, non-sensitive tasks. - Tech evolves—embrace AI like past transformations (steno pools → typewriters → computers). Those who leverage it elevate their impact. Leadership Habit: Empathy - Treat partners with the same care and urgency as customers—consistently. - Companies that say “partner-first” but act otherwise erode trust and outcomes. Experience and Craft Matter - It’s not all golf, steak dinners, and suites—there’s decades of judgment behind where to “hit the engine with the wrench.” - The market is swinging back toward experienced channel leaders; organizations s