Climate change gets real when people stop agreeing and start talking. Ned Comar brings together two longtime climate journalists, Betsy Rosenberg and Charles Rotter, for a blunt, unscripted clash over the science, the politics, and the stakes behind one of the most polarizing issues of our time. What starts as a conversation about climate quickly becomes a high-voltage test of whether radically different worldviews can coexist in the same room. Betsy argues that the evidence is overwhelming, the risks are accelerating, and mainstream media has failed to connect the dots. Charles pushes back hard, challenging the assumptions, the data, and the credibility of the entire alarmist case. Betsy Rosenberg trace her path from CBS Radio to decades of environmental reporting and advocacy Charles Rotter explain how his work with Climate Audit and What's Up With That shaped his skeptical view A heated back-and-forth over climate models, extreme weather, AMOC, RCP 8.5, and what the numbers actually mean A fierce debate over who gets to speak for science, and whether journalists can understand the subjects Ned's attempt to keep the conversation human, even when the room is one step from blowing upBetsy says the climate crisis is already showing up in food prices, wildfires, droughts, floods, and ecosystem collapse. Charles says the panic is driven by bad models, politicized science, and exaggerated claims that don't hold up under scrutiny. The result is not a tidy debate, but a raw look at how fear, certainty, expertise, and If you care about climate, media bias, scientific credibility, or the way Americans talk past each other on the biggest issues facing the planet, this episode is essential listening. It's messy, uncomfortable, and completely revealing. Stay Connected: Website: www.climate-verso.net LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ned-komar-402b8b68?utm_source=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=member_ios Enjoyed this episode? Leave a review, share it with friends, and help us grow the conversation. Questions or suggestions? Email us at contactclimateverso@gmail.com Follow Our Podcast for More Episodes! Don't miss out on future episodes packed with insights and stories! Website: https://climate-verso.net Facebook: Climate Verso LinkedIn: The Climate Verso Podcast If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your friends! Your support means the world to us!Hosted by Ned Komar. Got questions or suggestions? Email us at ned@climate-verso.net
