Connected Leadership

Zentano

Welcome to Connected Leadership, the podcast where leadership gets real. Hosted by Dave Morris and Rich Horton from Zentano, this series is all about helping leaders like you create thriving teams, shape positive workplace cultures, and make a genuine difference in the world. We believe that better leadership creates better organisations—and ultimately, a better world. Each episode brings you grounded wisdom, practical tips, and inspiring stories from real leaders. Expect a mix of unscripted chats, actionable insights, and fascinating guest interviews. Whether you’re navigating the challenges of modern leadership, exploring emotional intelligence, or looking to unlock your own potential, we’ve got you covered. Connect with us: 📍 Website: www.zentanogroup.com 📍 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/zentano/ 📍 Instagram: @zentanogroup So, grab a cuppa, hit play, and join us every week as we explore what it takes to lead with impact.

  1. 4d ago

    The Shadow Leaders Cast: Understanding Your Impact on Others | #85

    Leadership isn't just about the decisions we make or the direction we set. It is also about the effect we have on the people around us, often without realising it. In this episode, Rich and Dave explore the idea of the shadow a leader casts. Leaders influence the mood, the behaviour and the conversations around them, simply by being present. Their position carries authority and expectations, meaning people don't just respond to them as individuals. They also respond to the role or "office" they carry. This can create a significant gap between intention and impact. A leader may think they are simply sharing an idea, being decisive or trying to help, while others may experience that behaviour as an instruction, intimidation or micromanagement. As leaders become more senior, authority can also create blind spots by reducing the amount of honest feedback they receive. Rich and Dave explore some of the common shadows that leaders cast, including anxiety, impatience, frustration, certainty, busyness, and stress, but also the positive influence of bringing calmness, curiosity, humility, and confidence into a room. The episode considers how leaders can become more aware of their impact by paying attention to their micro-behaviours, seeking honest feedback and asking themselves how others might be experiencing the role they carry. Ultimately, self-awareness isn't only about understanding what is happening inside us. It is also about recognising what happens to other people when we walk into the room. Key talking points What it means for a leader to "cast a shadow".Why leaders influence the mood and behaviour of a room, whether they intend to or not.The difference between a leader's intention and the impact they create.Why people respond not just to the person, but also to the "office" or role they carry.How authority can make people more cautious, compliant or defensive.Why leaders can receive less truth as they become more senior.Common negative shadows vs more sought after positive shadowsWhy leaders need to pay attention to micro-behaviours and focus on impact, not simply intent.Practical ways to understand your impact, including feedback, 360-degree feedback and checking the mood on the ground.

  2. Sep 4

    The hidden cost of not understanding others beyond your own perspective | #84

    This episode explores why emotionally intelligent leaders challenge assumptions and can stay curious about other people's experiences. Most leaders genuinely care about their people, but caring about someone is not the same as understanding them. In this fifth episode of our Emotional Intelligence series, Dave and Rich explore empathy and why it is one of the most important, and often under-valued, and misunderstood leadership skills. They discuss how our assumptions, experiences and preferences influence the way we interpret other people's behaviour, and why self-awareness is an essential foundation for empathy. Empathy isn't about agreeing with someone, absorbing their emotions or believing you can read their mind. It's about making a genuine effort to understand another person's experience while retaining your own perspective. The episode introduces a practical four-step framework: Tune in, Notice, Interpret and Verify. The challenge for leaders is to treat what they observe as data rather than conclusions, stay curious for longer and check their assumptions before acting on them. Because empathy isn't mind-reading. It's disciplined curiosity. It also has a big impact on the bottom line of a profit and loss account. Key Talking Points Why caring about people doesn't necessarily mean understanding them How assumptions and personal filters can distort our interpretation of others The relationship between self-awareness and empathy The difference between empathy and sympathy, and the importance of maintaining boundaries Why emotional reactions, changes in tone and shifts in energy should be treated as data rather than conclusions The Tune in, Notice, Interpret, Verify framework Why empathy requires curiosity, listening and checking assumptions rather than mind-reading How empathy can help leaders manage change, difficult conversations and differing perspectives more effectively

  3. Aug 7

    How to truly understand your workplace culture by collecting the right data | #83

    In part 2 of this conversation with Matt Robinson, co-founder of CultureNav, Dave explores what leaders can do once they truly understand their workplace culture. The discussion moves beyond engagement surveys and employee feedback to examine how organisations can uncover the behaviours, habits and communication patterns that really influence performance. Matt explains the approach that CultureNav take in collecting the right data, and why communication consistently appears as the biggest cultural challenge. Other common issues discussed include why so many managers are promoted without being prepared for leadership, and how small, consistent behavioural changes often achieve more than large-scale transformation programmes. The conversation also explores the importance of accountability, coaching and transparency, showing how organisations can intentionally build cultures where people perform, grow and thrive. Key Talking Points Why understanding culture goes far beyond engagement surveys. How CultureNav uncovers the behaviours driving organisational performance. Why communication is the biggest challenge in most organisations. The hidden cost of accidental managers. How micro-cultures shape team performance. Why fast-growing organisations must design culture intentionally. The role of coaching and accountability in sustaining change. Practical actions every leader can take to improve culture.

    How to truly understand your workplace culture by collecting the right data  | #83
  4. Jul 31

    Why most organisations don’t understand their workplace culture, despite the data they collect | #82

    Every organisation has a culture, but not every organisation understands it. How do you define a workplace culture, let alone measure it! In this first episode of a two-part conversation, Dave is joined by brand and culture specialist Matt Robinson from CultureNav to explore why this topic has become one of the greatest competitive advantages available to modern organisations. Drawing on decades of experience working with businesses of every size, Matt shares his journey into organisational culture, explaining why leaders often confuse measures of their culture with employee engagement stats and/or workplace perks, and why genuine culture is reflected in the decisions people make every day. The conversation explores the red flags and warning signs, highlighting why culture isn't created through mission statements or values on a wall, but through a deeper understanding of people, a focus on collaboration, connection, and empathy and consistent leadership habits and actions. This episode lays the foundations for Part Two, where the discussion moves into how culture can be measured and developed using data-driven insights. Key Talking Points Matt's leadership journey and how he became passionate about organisational culture.What culture means, what it is, and what it isn’tWhy culture is increasingly becoming a strategic advantage.Why values only matter when they influence everyday behaviour.Why organisations often misunderstand the culture they have created.The importance of humility and curiosity in effective leadership.Why evidence should replace assumptions when talking about culture.How leaders shape culture through everyday decisions.

    Why most organisations don’t understand their workplace culture, despite the data they collect | #82
  5. Jul 24

    Stop Managing Generations. Start Building Better Workplaces | #81

    Are we asking the wrong question when it comes to leading across generations? For years, leaders have been asking, “how do we manage different generations with different needs and perspectives” or sometimes more pointedly "How do we manage Gen Z" But what if these are the wrong questions entirely. In this thought-provoking Voices of Leadership episode, Dave is joined by Cheska Wild-Brown, who works at the intersection of early careers, social mobility and organisational development. Together they challenge many of the assumptions organisations make about younger generations and explore why the future of leadership depends on creating workplaces where every generation can learn from one another. Rather than viewing generational differences as problems to solve, Francesca argues they should be seen as opportunities to innovate, improve and strengthen organisational performance. Through practical examples, she explains why confidence is often a product of exposure rather than personality, why organisations should hire for potential instead of polish, and how leaders can create psychologically safe environments where different perspectives are genuinely valued. This conversation offers a refreshing perspective for leaders looking to build stronger cultures, recruit and develop talent more effectively, and create workplaces where everyone can succeed together. Key Talking Points Why "How do we manage Gen Z?" is the wrong leadership question.Understanding the difference between capability gaps and exposure gaps.Why confidence is developed through opportunity, not personality.The importance of social mobility in accessing hidden talent.Hiring for potential rather than professional polish.How leaders can create environments where different generations learn from one another.The role of curiosity, reverse mentoring and psychological safety.Practical ways to build more inclusive, innovative and future-ready organisations.

    Stop Managing Generations. Start Building Better Workplaces | #81
  6. Jul 17

    Achievement Without Burnout: Rethinking Performance Under Pressure | #80

    Pressure is an unavoidable part of leadership, but when it becomes the normal way of working it begins to shape behaviour, decision-making and organisational culture in ways many leaders fail to recognise. In this fourth episode of our Emotional Intelligence series, Rich and Dave explore the hidden cost of working in a culture of sustained pressure. They discuss why many leaders become trapped in cycles of over-functioning, how busyness is often mistaken for creating value, and why developing emotional intelligence is essential for creating high-performing teams that can thrive over the long term. Rather than relying on urgency and pressure to drive results, they introduce a healthier alternative: creating cultures built on clarity, ownership, accountability and intentional recovery. If you want sustainable performance, not just short-term output, this episode offers practical guidance for leading differently. Key Talking Points Why sustained pressure changes behaviour and organisational culture. Why over-functioning leaders unintentionally become bottlenecks. The hidden emotional drivers behind overwork and burnout. Why busyness is often mistaken for effectiveness. The difference between pressure and accountability. Recognising the warning signs of unhealthy leadership cultures. How recovery and reflection improve long-term performance. Why emotional intelligence enables leaders to manage internal pressure more effectively.

  7. Jul 10

    How to find your leadership voice and lead with confidence, presence and gravitas | #79

    You have probably heard the phrase “find your voice” but how many of us use our voice as our primary way of influencing others. Most leaders spend years refining what they say, but far fewer invest time in how they say it. In this fascinating conversation, Dave is joined by internationally trained opera singer, vocal coach, and founder of The Voice Hub, Aidan Smith, to explore why our voice is one of the most overlooked leadership tools. Drawing on decades of elite performance experience, Aidan explains how confidence isn't something we fake, it's something we build through self-awareness, physiology, practice and authenticity. Together they explore why breath is the foundation of confidence, why presence matters more than performance, and why the most influential leaders sound grounded rather than loud. Whether you're leading meetings, presenting to clients, or inspiring your team through change, this episode offers practical insights that can immediately improve how you communicate. We urge you to explore how to find your true leadership voice. Key Talking Points Why your voice is your most important leadership instrument.The difference between genuine confidence and performative confidence.How elite performers build resilience through self-awareness.How breathing and physiology influence confidence under pressure.Practical techniques for reducing tension before important conversations.Why presence is created through authenticity rather than charisma.The relationship between confidence, humility and leadership.Lessons leaders can learn from opera about storytelling and emotional connection.How improving the way you use your voice, can improve influence, gravitas and leadership effectiveness.

    How to find your leadership voice and lead with confidence, presence and  gravitas | #79
  8. Jul 3

    Why Doing Good Is Good for Business: The Real Power of Social Value | #78

    Social value has become a familiar phrase in business via acronyms like ESG, CSR etc. In reality though it's often treated as a procurement requirement or another compliance exercise, a box that needs ticking. In this Voices of Leadership episode, Dave sits down with social value champion Claire Thayers to explore a very different perspective. Drawing on more than two decades of experience spanning marketing, branding, community development and business leadership, Claire shares how organisations can strengthen their businesses by strengthening the communities around them. From transforming a traditional law firm through community partnerships to helping shape initiatives like Together Gloucestershire and the Social Value Ideas Factory, Claire explains why businesses thrive when they connect people, purpose and planet. In a world of multi-generational workforces where attracting talent is a big challenge, this is a conversation about leadership, empathy, collaboration and why social value should never be an afterthought, it should be woven into the DNA of every organisation that wants to remain relevant. Key Talking Points Why "doing good is good for business"The difference between social responsibility and social valueHow strong communities create stronger organisationsWhy values only matter when they become behavioursThe commercial benefits of authentic social valueA case-study lesson: Transforming a business through community engagementWhy collaboration beats competitionBuilding partnerships that create value for everyone involvedHow the “penny drops” about the importance of empathy in leadershipWhy future leaders must focus on connection as much as capabilityThe role businesses can play in tackling local challengesPractical ways any organisation can start creating social value today

    Why Doing Good Is Good for Business: The Real Power of Social Value | #78

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Welcome to Connected Leadership, the podcast where leadership gets real. Hosted by Dave Morris and Rich Horton from Zentano, this series is all about helping leaders like you create thriving teams, shape positive workplace cultures, and make a genuine difference in the world. We believe that better leadership creates better organisations—and ultimately, a better world. Each episode brings you grounded wisdom, practical tips, and inspiring stories from real leaders. Expect a mix of unscripted chats, actionable insights, and fascinating guest interviews. Whether you’re navigating the challenges of modern leadership, exploring emotional intelligence, or looking to unlock your own potential, we’ve got you covered. Connect with us: 📍 Website: www.zentanogroup.com 📍 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/zentano/ 📍 Instagram: @zentanogroup So, grab a cuppa, hit play, and join us every week as we explore what it takes to lead with impact.

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