Huge Transformations

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Welcome to the Huge Transformations Podcast—your go-to source for building a thriving, profitable home service business! Hosted by Sid Graef from Montana, Gabe Torres from Nashville and Sheila Smeltzer from North Carolina, this show is all about real talk with real business owners. We dive deep with industry leaders who have built 7- and 8-figure home service companies and are eager to share their hard-earned wisdom. No fake gurus here—just straight-up insights from entrepreneurs who’ve been in the trenches. Every episode is packed with 100% real-world experience and 0% theory. Expect unfiltered conversations about the wins, the setbacks, and everything in between. Our guests reveal the costly mistakes to avoid and the strategies that actually work, giving you the tools to transform your business into something extraordinary. Ready to take your home service business to the next level? Let’s dive in!

  1. Sep 14

    49: The Clint Reynolds Episode

    Summary On this episode of the Huge Transformations Podcast, Sheila Schmeltzer sits down with Clint Reynolds, president of the Power Washers of North America (PWNA), to talk about the state of the exterior cleaning industry and why safety, training, and professional education matter so much as a company grows. Clint shares how PWNA is expanding its training platform with online courses, certifications, Spanish-language education, hands-on video training, and the PWNA Safety App. Sheila also explains how A+ Pro Services uses PWNA training to onboard technicians, track certifications, document compliance, and build safety into day-to-day operations. This conversation is especially valuable for pressure washing, window cleaning, and exterior cleaning business owners who want to build a more professional and better-protected company. Sheila and Clint discuss OSHA training, Job Hazard Analyses, safety work plans, ladder and truck inspections, employee safety scores, and why documenting training is just as important as providing it. They also preview ELEVATE 2027, the joint PWNA and IWCA convention taking place February 4–6, 2027, in Round Rock, Texas, along with PWNA’s State of the Industry survey, new training initiatives, equipment trends, solar cleaning standards, and changing regulations affecting contractors. The biggest takeaway: professionalism is built through systems. When you train your people well, document safety, stay current on industry standards, and build strong relationships with other experienced contractors, you create a safer team and a stronger business. Resources: Power Washers of North America (PWNA) ELEVATE 2027 International Window Cleaning Association (IWCA) A+ Pro Services, Inc. Deco Products The Summit Mastermind The Huge Insider podcast downloadable action guide Facebook — Huge Foundations The Huge Convention

  2. Sep 7

    48: Kyle Ray (Live Stream)

    In this episode of the Huge Transformations Podcast, Sid Graef speaks with Kyle Ray, founder of Geek Window Cleaning, about the recurring-revenue model helping his company grow across multiple Texas markets. Geek Window Cleaning no longer provides traditional one-off residential window cleaning. Instead, customers join its Always Clean Program and select quarterly, triannual, or biannual service with automatic monthly payments. By tracking customer acquisition cost against an average lifetime value of approximately $7,000, Kyle can invest aggressively in acquiring customers—even offering heavily discounted initial service—because he understands the long-term economics. Kyle explains how door-to-door sales, service stacking, automated scheduling, technician development, referral incentives, and thoughtful customer gifts work together as one retention system. Each recurring visit becomes another opportunity to build trust, identify additional needs, and expand the customer relationship. For service and marketing professionals, this conversation is a practical lesson in thinking beyond the first transaction. Predictable revenue is valuable, but the real advantage comes from delivering consistently, building emotional loyalty, and becoming the trusted provider customers never want to replace. Resources: Geek Window Cleaning Geek Window Cleaning’s Always Clean Program Kyle Ray on LinkedIn Pronto team communication platform The Contractor Fight Christmas Light Contractors CLIPA The Huge Convention The Huge Insider newsletter signup The Huge Insider podcast downloadable action guide The Huge Mastermind information page

  3. Aug 26

    46: Brandon Vaughn - The Day I Downloaded My Dads Brain (Live Stream)

    In this episode of the Huge Transformations Podcast, Sid Graef talks with serial entrepreneur and HireBus CEO Brandon Vaughn about transforming an owner-dependent operation into a scalable, AI-ready business. After growing his family’s exterior cleaning company from a one-person operation to more than 70 employees, building Wise Coatings into a multi-location franchise system, and launching multiple other ventures, Brandon has learned that growth depends on capturing knowledge, communicating a clear vision, and empowering capable people to execute it. Brandon explains how business owners can “download their brains” by documenting their decision-making, processes, and experience. With today’s recording and AI tools, creating useful playbooks no longer requires spending hours writing manuals—but businesses must establish the right knowledge infrastructure before AI can deliver meaningful results. The conversation also explores irresistible marketing offers, the warning signs behind hustle culture, strategic hiring, and the founder’s dangerous habit of becoming the “chief answer officer.” Brandon’s message is clear: sustainable growth comes from preventing problems, developing critical thinkers, and building a company that can thrive without depending on its owner for every answer. Resources: Brandon Vaughn on LinkedIn HireBus HireBus company background and leadership HireBus on LinkedIn Brandon Vaughn’s CONQUER profile Wise Coatings Volt Vikings All-Clean SoftWash The Huge Convention The Huge Insider newsletter signup The Huge Insider podcast downloadable action guide The Huge Mastermind information page Huge Foundations Facebook group Huge Foundations education platform trial

  4. Aug 26

    45: Rom Reber - The Contractor Fight (Live Stream)

    In this episode of the Huge Transformations Podcast, Sid Graef sits down with Tom Reber—former U.S. Marine, successful painting contractor, author, and founder of The Contractor Fight—to explore why sustainable business growth starts with the owner. Tom shares his “Strong You, Strong Home, Strong Business” philosophy, explaining why entrepreneurs must prioritize their health, relationships, and personal standards before expecting their companies to thrive. He also challenges business owners to stop measuring success by revenue alone. A truly successful business should generate profit, create freedom, and improve your life—not consume it. The conversation also dives into confident, ethical selling. Tom explains how his Shin-Fu sales process helps contractors uncover what customers genuinely value, discuss money early, qualify leads before investing time in estimates, and protect their margins. His message applies far beyond the trades: listen before pitching, sell through curiosity, practice difficult conversations, and never lower your price simply because silence makes you uncomfortable. For service-based business owners and marketers, this episode is a powerful reminder that better results come from stronger standards, profitable systems, deliberate practice, and the willingness to become the person your next level requires. Resources: The Contractor Fight Tom Reber on LinkedIn The Contractor Fight on Facebook Contractor Fight TV on YouTube Winning the Contractor Fight by Tom Reber Shin-Fu Sales Training Command Your Profit workshop with Tom Reber The Huge Convention The Huge Insider newsletter signup The Huge Insider podcast downloadable action guide The Huge Mastermind information page Huge Foundations Facebook group

  5. Jun 15

    44: The Thomas Dodson Episode

    On this episode of the Huge Transformations Podcast, Sheila Smeltzer sits down with Thomas Dodson, owner of Classic Clean Company in south central Kentucky, to talk about building a simple, steady, and highly trusted cleaning business in a small market. Thomas shares how Classic Clean started almost by accident after his wife was ready to move on from home health work. What began with just $310 in sales during their first month has grown into a 10-year business offering residential cleaning, janitorial services, post-construction cleaning, window cleaning, pressure washing, soft washing, and other complementary cleaning services. This conversation is especially valuable for home service business owners who are trying to create dependable recurring revenue while keeping their operations simple and professional. Thomas explains why janitorial work became such a powerful foundation for the company, how recurring commercial accounts helped stabilize revenue, and why training technicians on the actual science of cleaning is so important. Sheila and Thomas also talk about ISSA training, SOPs, employee hiring, core values, showing up on time, clear expectations, billboards, Google Ads, predictive targeting cards, expanding into a new market, and using window cleaning as a strong entry point to sell additional services. The biggest takeaway: business does not have to be overcomplicated to be successful. If you answer the phone, show up when you say you will, communicate clearly, train your people well, and keep your systems simple, you can build a trusted company that lasts.   Resources:   Classic Clean Company Classic Clean Company Facebook ISSA Cleaning Industry Management Standard / Training Resources Claude AI Good to Great by Jim Collins The Art of War by Sun Tzu The Huge Convention The Huge Insider Newsletter Signup The Huge Insider Podcast Downloadable Action Guide The Huge Mastermind Information Page Huge Foundations Facebook Group     Transcript:  Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Huge Transformations podcast. I'm Sid Graef out of Montana. I'm Gabe Torres here in Nashville, Tennessee. And I'm Sheila Smeltzer from North Carolina. We're your hosts and guides through the landscape of growing a successful home service business. We do this by interviewing the best home service business builders in the industry, folks that have already built seven and eight figure businesses, and they want to help you succeed. Yep. No fake gurus on this show, just real life owners that have been in the trenches and can help show you the way to grow profitably. We get insights and truths from successful business builders, and every episode is 100% experience, 0% theory. We are going to dig deep and reveal the good, the bad, and the ugly. Our guests will share with you the pitfalls to avoid and the keys to winning. In short, our guests will show you how to transform your home service business into a masterpiece. Thanks for joining us on the wild journey of entrepreneurship. Let's dive in. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Huge Transformations podcast. It is Sheila Schmeltzer, your host and contributor, coming to you from southeastern North Carolina and my home shop facility. I apologize if it's a little echoey, but this is the real deal. Uh, today we've got Thomas Dodson. Thomas owns Classic Clean Company out of southeastern Kentucky, and he's been in business for 10 years, and we're gonna get to Thomas today. Welcome, Thomas. Good morning. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm good. Good. Um, well, it's exciting to have you on the show. I know that, uh, this is one of your first debuts on a podcast, and you told me earlier that you like to listen to the Huge Transformation and listen to everybody's stories that we interview. I do. I, I like to listen to them, especially when I travel. I like to turn on the podcast and listen to everybody's stories. Uh, it's interesting to see where they're at, where they came from. Um, it's always interesting, and everybody has a really diverse story. Um- Yeah. That's great. Um, tell me, can you... Is there anyone that kind of stands out, where you said, "Wow, I learned a lot from that," or, "I really resonate with that"? Is there any particular episode? Not really right off the top of my head, but I'm a, I'm a connoisseur of information. I, I read and listen and, and try to gather information constantly, whether it's books or industry material or, you know, just somebody else I know that has, has done well in whatever industry they are. Or, or, and even somebody that's not done so well. I mean, sometimes there's a lot to be learned from the guy who didn't do well. Um- Mm-hmm ... you know, so I'm always consuming information, and I always dig, uh, something out of every podcast that I find helpful. Yeah, I agree. Are you like me? 'Cause I went to college but dropped out. Did you go to college and finish, or do you have a degree in anything? I went to college with an animal science degree. Uh- Okay ... and I probably, like, um- 15 hours graduating. Okay. Um- You had 15 hours to go? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But I... And the small town that I'm in, I grew up in the automotive industry. Um- Okay ... and we had a Chevrolet dealership here, and that's, I couldn't wait to get back, uh, and, and get to work in the dealership. And so, uh, you know, just as soon as I could break free, um, I broke free. Um, but I, I liked college. I went, I learned, um... I took the classes I wanted to take and learned what I wanted to learn, and brought that back with me when I came, so, um, but it, it's, it was a good experience. Um- Good. Good. Yeah, so, um, but you said animal... Animal science. Animal science? Yeah. Okay. So I just need to know real fast, we're gonna move on, but what does one do when they have an animal science degree? Um, you know, you're, you're talking about nutritionists, you're talking about- Ah ... uh, anything in the, in the agricultural industry related to animal. Got it. Okay. Great. Okay. I can see that in southeastern Kentucky. Yeah. I can see that, yeah. Okay. So how did you get in to starting Classic Clean, and tell us about Classic Clean, who you are today, and how you got started. Well, like s- earlier, nobody aspires to start a janitorial service. It wasn't in my bingo card when I went to college. Uh, I never, never dreamed of being, uh, in this industry, but, uh, I grew up in the automotive industry in a small community, and there got to be a lot of pressure from the economy and from General Motors and others, you know, to kind of get rid of their small dealers. So they, they made life hard for their small dealers in rural areas. And so we closed our dealership and then went, uh, spent some time in the trucking industry, uh, then done a little bit of manufacturing in a building that we had. We built some farm equipment and stuff. But it seemed like every time I got into a new venture, I was always running into, uh, economic pressures that I could not control. Um- Okay ... you know, so, um, the more I looked and, and the more I thought about it, I thought, you know, the service industry is where our economy's going. You can't outsource it. It's not gonna be produced in China. So- Um, I got to looking at different models, uh, different things that we could do in the service industry, and the, my wife, we were just dating at the time. She was doing home health, and, um, a lot of her customers, it was mostly hospice-type customers were- Mm-hmm ... they were passing away, and it was a rough, uh, time for her, and it, it just looks like a hard business for anybody that gets close to their clients. Um- Sure ... and, uh, so we just, she's like, "I don't know that I can keep doing this." And, uh, and I said, "Well, here's an idea. Let's just start a cleaning company." And, um, so she said, "Okay," and, um, "Whatever you think." So over supper, I started a cleaning company. Um, and our first month in business, which was June 10 years ago, uh- Okay ... we sold $310 worth of service the whole month. Okay. And she was like, "I don't, I don't think this is gonna work." And I said, "Well, let's just, um, let's just hang on for a minute. I think this will work. We just need to, need to keep on." And, um, 10 years later, we've got, um, on any given day, 10 to 15 employees. Great. So, um, did you have any formal cleaning experience, your wife have any formal cleaning experience? Mm-mm. 'Cause, you know, a lot of companies that start, a lot of companies that get started in the cleaning space do not have any formal training. Did you? None. Yeah. Other than what my mama taught me when I was growing up. Right. Yeah. That was the extent of it. But- And then we all have our preferences on products and ways to do things and whatnot, and you're right. It's probably taught down, brought down from generations of watching our parents and grandparents do these tasks. It's- I learned real early in our process that that was a problem. Yeah. Uh, because I, I knew that there were ways to do things, and I knew that there was ways that we were doing it and it was wrong. Yep. Uh, so, uh, we, we took, uh, took the chance to go to an, uh, CRC class- Okay ... in Atlanta, uh, the home technician, um, certification. This is, this is part of, um, ISSA? Yeah. Love that. Good. No, so that was a three or four day experience, and that was, that was beneficial. We still use that today. I still use that manual today, uh, to go back and, well, we build our SOPs and our processes. Yep. Uh, we all go back to that manual. Um, so that got us on the right track, and, um- And that kind of, and the biggest problem I think we have is when you hire a new cleaner is breaking them from those habits that they developed over years or, or going off information that they picked up that's, you know, Facebook hacks and- Yeah and things just are not, they just don't work. And, you know, you can wind up damaging somebody's

  6. Jun 8

    43: The Ramiro Ortiz Episode

    On this episode of the Huge Transformations Podcast, Sid Graef sits down with Ramiro Ortiz, founder of SAGE Window Cleaning in Bend, Oregon, to talk about building a home service business from absolutely nothing into a thriving company with a strong team, strong culture, and big growth goals. Ramiro shares how a short six-week window cleaning job with Sid in Montana helped change the direction of his life. After an epic climbing journey with his family and only a few thousand dollars left in the bank, Ramiro and his wife Erin started SAGE Window Cleaning with no customers, no experience running an office, and one oversized 32-foot ladder. This conversation is especially valuable for service business owners who are trying to move from survival mode into real leadership. Ramiro talks about the importance of branding, pricing confidently, building trust with customers, hiring the right people, creating culture, and learning how to delegate the parts of the business that do not match your strengths.   Resources:   SAGE Window Cleaning Ramiro Ortiz LinkedIn SAGE Window Cleaning Facebook The Go-Giver The Huge Convention The Huge Insider Newsletter Signup The Huge Insider Podcast Downloadable Action Guide The Huge Mastermind Information Page Huge Foundations Facebook Group     Transcript:  Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Huge Transformations podcast. I'm Sid Graef out of Montana. I'm Gabe Torres here in Nashville, Tennessee. And I'm Sheila Smeltzer from North Carolina. We're your hosts and guides through the landscape of growing a successful home service business. We do this by interviewing the best home service business builders in the industry, folks that have already built seven and eight figure businesses, and they want to help you succeed. Yep. No fake gurus on this show, just real life owners that have been in the trenches and can help show you the way to grow profitably. We get insights and truths from successful business builders, and every episode is 100% experience, 0% theory. We are going to dig deep and reveal the good, the bad, and the ugly. Our guests will share with you the pitfalls to avoid and the keys to winning. In short, our guests will show you how to transform your home service business into a masterpiece. Thanks for joining us on the wild journey of entrepreneurship. Let's dive in. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Huge Transformation podcast. I'm Sid Graef, and I'm with Ramiro Ortiz today. And Ramiro and I have known each other for a long time, about 10 years. And is... You're, Ramiro, you're out in Oregon, and you've got SAGE Window Cleaning. Is that right? Yes. Hi, Sid. Uh, thank you for having me, and thanks, uh, everybody, your listeners, uh, for, for, you know, being, being here. And I'm gonna share a little bit my story. We're, we're in Bend, Oregon. Yeah, beautiful, beautiful city, beautiful town, uh, just gorgeous with a beautiful river. Kind of similar to, uh, Missoula, uh, where you're at. Uh, reminds me a lot of the beauty of, uh, where you're at. So yeah, it's, it's, it's been, it's been great. It's been a, an amazing, uh, town, and it has host us, uh, just greatly the last 10 years. Yeah. Okay. Wonderful. Well, let me give, let me give everybody a little bit of background. This is... I've been looking forward to this interview because I've known you for a while. And Ramiro and I, we f- we first met in Missoula. It was about 10 years ago, and you and, and your wife Erin and young children were in town, and I believe you were gonna start a climbing gym. And- That's right ... at the time, you applied for an open position we had cleaning windows. And- Right ... I've, I've bragged about you so many times. And it, when we reconnected recently, I said, I said, "You remember that year you worked for me?" And you're like, "Sid, it was only six weeks or two weeks." I mean, you worked for a very short time with me. During that bit of time, you made a big impression. Impression number one was, uh, by the end of your second week, your production rate, your speed and accuracy was as, you were as fast as our, our best cleaner that had been with us for several years. I'm like, "Who is this guy?" And of course, with a climbing background, you took immediately to high rise. And one of our guys, Jake, he, you guys worked together for a minute. He remembered you. He brought you up yesterday in a completely different context, and he worked with us for five years. He was gone for five years. He came back and he said, he said, "Who was that guy that, that, uh, was doing all the repel stuff? And he was just, he was so good, but he didn't work for us very long." And I'm like, "Ramiro?" He goes, "Yeah, that guy was awesome." I'm like, "How do you remember this?" So you, you made a big impact in a small amount of time, but then you and your family left Missoula to do an epic climbing trip because- Correct you were a professional rock climber, and you were going, the way I remember it is you're gonna start climbing and, you know, go to Washington State and work your way all the way down to Mexico or Central America, like be gone for months climbing. And with that as the background, tell us, so let's start, not about window cleaning, but tell us about that epic climb trip. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We landed in, in, in Missoula, uh, with the, the plans of opening a rock climbing gym. And the local gym, uh, which they are a- an amazing gym, uh, they were a little bit ahead of us. It was... By the time, it was a small, small place, and we wanted to open something bigger, and our plans was to kind of take them down, you know? And so we went in there, and we realized, uh, shortly after that they were ahead of us. They had already signed a lease with another bigger building, and their plans was to expansion, and there was really no room for two gyms of that size in Missoula. So, uh, it was a big cold shower, and we said that, "Well, what are we gonna do?" So we just, uh, packed it up. Uh, we put everything in a, in a travel trailer, and we hit the road. That's what we did. We were rock climbers. That's how I met my wife. And so that was our comfort zone, uh, so we did. Uh, we were on the road for a year and a half or maybe a couple of years, and we hit just the most wonderful places. And it just took us to, uh, you know, just the incredible not only places, but we met just the most wonderful community. Um, but that was kind of our start. Uh, you know, a couple of years later, we... I remember we're in, uh, somewhere in Red Rocks in Vegas, and we were very, very cold, I remember, and we were very poor. We just barely had, um, I think it was probably $3,000 left in the bank. All of our savings, they were gone, and so we had to, uh, basically settle and, and, and make home again. So we came back to Bend, which was our first stop trying to find home. Uh, and talking about big impacts, uh, the six weeks that I worked for you has, uh, completely changed and just i- i- it made a, a complete, uh, 360 change in my life, uh, because you also, I also remembered you. Uh, so it was only six weeks, but, uh, shortly after we landed in Bend, I picked up a temp job here, and I was doing roofing, and I was doing sweeping warehouses, and basically just whatever. They called me in the morning and said like, "Hey, they need a construction worker." And I was like, "I'll be there." And so I'll just show up and do my best, and it was, I don't know, maybe $16 an hour maybe the best day. Uh, and I realized I was not gonna be able to support my family. So then you came to my mind, and I was like, "Well, I remember doing this, uh, and maybe it's a good fit." So I remember making the phone call and with my hopes that you will remember me because six weeks- Mm-hmm ... it was not a big time, you know? And, uh, so I remember calling and saying like, "Hey, do you remember me, number one, and are you willing to, uh, you know, help me out starting, uh, with this thing?" Uh, so, uh, that's, that's my, my story before I, I start my, my, my company here in Bend. It's been 10 years since then. Um, and it has been incredible. Uh, it's been just amazing. We are doing incredibly well. Uh, we have, um, now under our, our- care, um, many, many families. We have a big c- crew. We're 15, 16 people. Uh, so things have, uh, really come... We- we've come, uh, uh, very, very far, uh, thanks to your, your guidance and, and, and for sharing. So I'm really happy to be here, and hopefully I can be motivation for somebody to start something out and, and be the inspiration, uh, like you were for me. Well, well that's very gracious. Thank you. And also, people, you're, everybo- you're gonna gather very quickly, Ramiro's very modest. He's got a lot of ability, uh, but he's very modest. But y- so you guys, it, when you started Stage Window Cleaning in Bend, I mean, you literally started from nothing Yes. We started from nothing, nothing. My background was in graphic design. That's how I graduated in Ecuador, where I'm originally from. Uh, but climbing was my passion. So I was bartending on nights, and I was a rock climber. So, um, a little bit of my background, the g- the, the, the graphic design came in play right away when I said I wanna open my, my business, and I did not want to show up to anybody's house before I had my, my logo design, and I needed to have my van all wrapped and ready to go. I didn't have the money, but I just had to do it. And literally, my first ladder was a 32-foot ladder. That's how inexperienced I was. I just went to the store and I thought to myself, "I don't have the money to buy four different sized ladders, so I'm just gonna go the big one. And with this one, I'm sure I can reach anything, the short and the tall." And then I was doing, you know, a two-story home with a 32-foot ladder and, and it was just, uh, some of the hardest days. It was, uh, quick learning. That's not your first ladder. That shouldn't be your first

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Welcome to the Huge Transformations Podcast—your go-to source for building a thriving, profitable home service business! Hosted by Sid Graef from Montana, Gabe Torres from Nashville and Sheila Smeltzer from North Carolina, this show is all about real talk with real business owners. We dive deep with industry leaders who have built 7- and 8-figure home service companies and are eager to share their hard-earned wisdom. No fake gurus here—just straight-up insights from entrepreneurs who’ve been in the trenches. Every episode is packed with 100% real-world experience and 0% theory. Expect unfiltered conversations about the wins, the setbacks, and everything in between. Our guests reveal the costly mistakes to avoid and the strategies that actually work, giving you the tools to transform your business into something extraordinary. Ready to take your home service business to the next level? Let’s dive in!