The Unbroken Athlete

Emily Perrin & Catherine Logan

The Unbroken Athlete Podcast is your go-to resource for building resilience, mental toughness, and the skills needed to thrive in the highs and lows of athletic life. Designed for athletes of all levels, this podcast dives into the challenges of injury recovery, performance pressure, and staying motivated in the face of setbacks. Through expert interviews, actionable strategies, and inspiring stories, we equip athletes with the tools to stay mentally strong, bounce back from adversity, and achieve their full potential—because every athlete deserves to feel unbreakable.

Episodes

  1. Ep 4: Resilience Boosting with ACL Unbroken

    01/28/2025

    Ep 4: Resilience Boosting with ACL Unbroken

    What is ACL Unbroken? https://www.theunbrokenathlete.com/aclunbrokenprogram ACL Unbroken is a comprehensive program designed to empower athletes at every stage of their ACL recovery journey. Whether you’re preparing for surgery, navigating the early stages of rehabilitation, or working toward a triumphant return to your sport, ACL Unbroken provides the tools, guidance, and support needed to succeed. This program combines expert insights, actionable strategies, and inspiring stories to help athletes rebuild strength, resilience, and mental toughness. With a focus on overcoming challenges like fear of re-injury and sustaining motivation, ACL Unbroken is for athletes who are ready to take control of their recovery, embrace growth, and come back stronger than ever. 1. Expert Guidance from Start to Finish Comprehensive programming tailored for every stage of recovery. Insights and tips from sports medicine professionals and elite athletes who’ve been in your shoes. 2. Resilience and Grit Building Tools to conquer fear of reinjury and boost your visualization skillset. Meditations and strategies to build unshakable resilience. 3. Stress Reduction and Mental Clarity Guided meditations to ease stress and foster focus. Mindset tools to keep you motivated and mentally strong. 4. Success-Driven Goal Setting Step-by-step plans to set and achieve your recovery milestones. Actionable strategies to keep your progress on track.   Whether you are pre-surgery, early in your recovery, dealing with that mid-recovery motivation slump or getting ready to return to sport... ACL Unbroken has the tools to help you succeed!

    12 min
  2. Ep 2: Fuel Up: Game Day Nutrition Tips

    01/20/2025

    Ep 2: Fuel Up: Game Day Nutrition Tips

    Whether you’re gearing up for game day, a competition, or a personal best, fueling your body the right way can be the difference between performing at your peak or falling short.  In the next ten minutes, we’ll unpack why nutrition is a game-changer, what to eat before, during, and after the game, and how to create a nutrition plan tailored to your goals. Let’s get started! Welcome back to The Unbroken Athlete. 00:02 So this podcast is your ultimate resource for overcoming the challenges every athlete faces. 00:07 Whether you're recovering from an injury, managing performance pressure, or striving to stay motivated through setbacks, this podcast is here to guide you. 00:15 I'm your co-host, Catherine Logan, here with my Unbroken Athlete co-founder, Emily Perrin. 00:20 Today we are diving into a topic that's absolutely crucial for peak performance, as well as recovery from injury... 00:26 nutrition. 00:27 So, Whether whether you're gearing up for your big day of competition or just trying to be your personal best, fueling your body is the difference like maker as far as like you know, meeting all your performance goals or just falling short. 00:41 So over the next like 10 minutes or so, we just want to unpack like why nutrition is a game changer. 00:46 You know what should you be eating before, during, after games, like how you can take a really simple approach to making a nutrition plan so you can get towards your goals so. 00:58 Emily, I know you're excited. 01:02 So let's kick it off just like big picture. 01:05 You know, why do you think nutrition matters so much for athletes? 01:10 Yeah, nutrition matters because we're living, functioning human beings, right? 01:14 So like your body is essentially a high performance vessel and to run efficiently, to function efficiently. 01:21 It needs fuel, right? 01:22 So proper nutrition, getting what you need, what your body needs, it enhances everything, right? 01:28 Your endurance, your strength, your focus, your ability to um recover as well. 01:36 So we have to start thinking about food as more than just like calories, right? 01:41 So it's a mix of your macronutrients, your carbs, your protein, fat. 01:47 um with your micronutrients, so your vitamins, your minerals. 01:51 And all of these impact your muscle functioning, right? 01:56 So that's how quickly you recover, how you perform, all of the above, regardless of what activity or sport you're doing. 02:02 So let's take just like an on-field athlete. 02:06 So like think lacrosse, soccer, field hockey, doesn't matter. 02:10 So think just like in terms of carbohydrates. 02:14 If you're out there running around, right? 02:16 Running field to field and, or I should say goal to goal, right? 02:19 On 100 to 120 yard field and you don't have adequate carbohydrates to actually fuel your body, you're gonna hit a wall, right? 02:27 You're going to be depleted. 02:28 So how does that actually help you as an athlete? 02:32 How does it help you enhance your performance? 02:34 It doesn't. 02:35 So again, across whatever sport you're playing, if you're on a court, if you're in the pool, if you're just,out hiking, right? 02:42 Same thing. 02:44 A properly fueled body helps you avoid all that, right? 02:48 It helps you not just function well, but also take your performance to the next level. 02:54 So let's talk about this like proper fueling. 02:57 Like I think there's so much out there on social media these days. 03:00 Like what does that actually look like, Catherine? 03:03 Yeah. 03:04 And I thinkYou can keep it very simple. 03:07 Obviously, if you're a high-level pro athlete, you can you know have your own nutritionist and they can be designing it all for you. 03:14 But you know I think the average person isn't afforded that luxury and just try and figure out, Okay, how can I feel my body? 03:20 um When I think about this, I always think back to all the team physician game coverage stuff I've done, and every time you walk into a locker room, there's a candy table. 03:32 Yeah, pregame buffet, you knowBut anyway, so if we just talk about like pregame first, so as you were talking about like carbs, so our goal here is to like really top off your like like glycogen stores. 03:48 So that's the energy that your muscles are gonna draw from like during this activity that you're about to pursue. 03:53 So ideally you have that pregame meal like three to four hours before your game, and that meal should really focus on complex carbs,A moderate amount of protein and some low fat, 'cause if you have a lot of fat right before the game, you're gonna have really like hard time with digestion. 04:08 You're gonna have a stomach ache that's gonna slow you down. 04:10 So an easy example is like, you know, the classic like brown rice, steamed vegetable, grilled chicken, nothing exciting, you know, like very plain. 04:19 But like it's true, like and if you see people who do well and have like long sustained sort of either careers or are the people who are like. 04:28 weekend warriors who are like, they look so young and they're so, you know like that's what they're doing. 04:33 You know It's not like rocket science. 04:36 Or if you want something a little lighter or maybe you're like driving around and like, no, I can't like grill chicken right now. 04:42 Your other option is to be like, okay, let me have some oatmeal with a banana. 04:46 I'm gonna put a little like almond butter in it. 04:49 That's a great way to get some sustained energy. 04:51 It's not gonna weigh you down, it's gonna digest really quickly. 04:55 And then lastly, about an hour before the game, like a small little snack, like fruits you know is a great little thing. 05:03 You know If you want to have a little bit of a bar, that's totally fine as well. 05:07 You know It'll give you that little extra energy without like ruining your stomach. 05:11 But let's not forget about hydration. 05:13 So Emily, I'm going to kick it over to you for like, that's super overlooked as far as like why it's so important in nutrition. 05:20 So if you could speak a little bit about that. 05:22 Yeah. 05:22 And even just in my work, like, I don't do anything in the nutrition side, but like, I have so many athletes that are chronically dehydrated. 05:30 um So even just mild dehydration can lead to decreased performance. 05:34 And that's because water is so important. 05:36 It regulates your body, temperature, it helps with your joints, it helps transport nutrients to your muscles. 05:42 So, you know, starting your hydration process early, I mean, this should, think of your hydration process as an ongoing constant thing, you know, aiming for about kind of like 16 to 20 ounces of water, like two to three hours before your game. 05:57 and then another eight ounces about 20 minutes before. 06:02 And then during the game, as you're going, like sipping water regularly, this is where we don't want to like guzzle, right? 06:09 Take water bottle in the mouth and guzzle a ton of water. 06:13 You can even consider a sports drink. 06:16 So your Gatorade, your Powerades, I'm sure there's a lot more out there, but when I was an athlete, like in my day, you had two options for particularly like longer or intense events. 06:27 Yeah. 06:28 And I think, you know, speaking about like in game, like do you actually need, you know, do you need more fuel? 06:35 And you can imagine like if someone's doing, you know, if you're doing a marathon or in Colorado, we have a fair amount of. 06:43 endurance athletes. 06:45 So they're like those ultra marathon, 100 mile, you know, that's a whole another episode. 06:50 So I'm not going to like dive into that right now. 06:52 But if you're like under an hour for your event, like your traditional sort of like soccer, lacrosse, you know, sort of game, water alone is probably enough. 07:01 If it is really hot, you're really, really sweating. 07:04 That's when we really do think about like having those, you know, either some salt in them or some other, you know, sort ofdifferent, like you mentioned, Gatorade, Powerade, you know any of those sort of things, just to give you a little bit extra. 07:17 But the most important thing is you want something that's pretty quick digesting, again, not gonna disturb your stomach. 07:22 So on the field, like for coverage, oftentimes we'll either have a sports drink or those energy gels. 07:29 And if they really just need something a little bit more than that, like an orange, little light pretzels, those are the things to go for. 07:36 Don't, anything bigger than that, like trying to,put down a big peanut butter and jelly sandwich to go locker room at halftime, it's generally not what you're doing. 07:44 Um But you know you mentioned already like recovery, like nutrition is so important for recovery and I think you know sometimes people finish a game and they're starved and it's like, Okay, let me just hit that next drive through. 07:59 you know So it's just like the easy thing to do, but it's actually, that's like equally important to your pregame is your recovery, so Emily, speak a little bit about recovery nutrition. 08:10 Yeah. 08:10 And at the same time, I've also had a lot of athletes that like have no appetite after, especially like pending temperature. 08:16 So that kind of like golden window for recovery is within, like nutrition-wise, is like 30 to 60 minutes after your your game, your competition, whatever it is. 08:26 So it's during this time that your body is really primed to kind of replenish glycogen and muscle repair. 08:33 So trying to aim for a combination ofCarbs and protein, kind of like a three to one ratio. 08:42 So a great option, especially this is this is a big hit for my athletes that do struggle to have an appetite, is a smoothie. 08:50 So doing something like Greek yogurt, some berries, whether frozen or fresh, spinach, put some protein powder in there. 08:58 Chocolate milk is always generally a hit. 09:03 Most athletes

    11 min
  3. Ep 1: Breaking the Mental Barriers: Overcoming Fear of Re-Injury

    01/18/2025

    Ep 1: Breaking the Mental Barriers: Overcoming Fear of Re-Injury

    Kinesiophobia is the fear of movement stemming from a belief that physical activity could cause reinjury. Kinesiophobia is actually quite common among athletes recovering from injuries, particularly severe ones like ACL tears, rotator cuff injuries, or fractures. While the physical healing process is closely monitored, kinesiophobia can linger, creating doubt, anxiety, and hesitation. In fact a 2021 study in Sports Health found that - When controlling for time since surgery, and age - maximal isometric quadriceps strength and kinesiophobia were significantly associated with long-term patient-reported outcomes after ACLR. These results suggest that training to improve quadriceps strength and addressing kinesiophobia in the late stages of recovery from ACLR may improve long-term self-reported function. LINKS: ACL Unbroken: https://www.theunbrokenathlete.com/aclunbrokenprogram Resources: https://www.theunbrokenathlete.com/blog     TRANSCRIPT Hi, everyone. 00:02 Welcome to the Unbroken Athlete Podcast. 00:05 I'm Emily Perrin, mental health therapist and former Division I athlete. 00:08 And I'm here with my co-host, Dr. 00:10 Catherine Logan, orthopedic surgeon and nutrition coach. 00:13 Today, we're going to talk about kinesiophobia. 00:16 We are super excited to talk about this topic because many athletes who have specifically torn their ACL really struggle with it. 00:24 Yeah, I totally agree, Emily. 00:27 I think this is a really important topic. 00:29 So, you know, returning to sport after an injury, you know, that's the monumental milestone that everybody is really trying to get to. 00:37 You know, it sort of signifies, okay, I'm getting towards the end. 00:40 I've, you know, worked really, really hard and I really want to reclaim my passion and get back to the things that really fuel them. 00:48 However, you know, sometimes you get through all the physical journey and you still have some issues with like,the physical, mental sort of connection. 00:56 So, you know, I think we want to talk about this word kinesiophobia, you know, which is basically just like fear of movement. 01:03 And it's like stemming from the belief that you internalize of like, okay, what if I get re-injured again? 01:09 So it's not so much fear of re-injury as much as like, it's just like fear of movement, but it's because you believe you're going to get re-injured. 01:17 And this is not just ACL specific, like this happens to,by folks who have like shoulder dislocations. 01:25 But this feeling, you know, can really linger and create some doubt. 01:30 And I did want to bring up, you know, before Emily starts to go into like, why does this occur? 01:35 But there was actually a study in 2021, it was published in Sports Health, which is one of our big academic journals. 01:42 And they had controlled for like,you know, how long it had been from surgery as well as the patient or the individual's age. 01:51 And they looked at like what really impacts outcomes as far as getting back to everything you want to do. 01:56 And the two things that were really, really important after ACL surgery, one was the isometric quad strength. 02:02 So how strong are your quads? 02:04 But the second was kinesiophobia. 02:06 And so I think we really want to spend a lot of time because it's not just a small thing, it's actually really impacting people's ability to get back. 02:16 Yeah, it's so interesting. 02:18 And I, you know, to answer this question, like, why does kinesiophobia occur? 02:22 Well, I in many ways that's kind of like asking, well, like, why does somebody get anxious? 02:27 It's really individual. 02:28 It's, it can be very unique and it's really multifaceted. 02:32 There's a lot of reasons. 02:34 I think the first to acknowledge is, isInjuries for many people can be traumatic, right? 02:42 And so I define and and that word is, I think, really important to break down. 02:47 I define trauma as just an experience that really overwhelms your capacity, right, to kind of navigate it. 02:55 It can be really scary, particularly when we're talking about ACL injuries. 03:01 As someone that has torn their ACL, it is really rattling, it's really jarring, andThat does impact what is called our nervous system, right? 03:11 And our nervous system, our autonomic nervous system is how the mind and the body are connected. 03:16 And trauma really like a traumatic experience occurs within your nervous system. 03:21 And so that isn't as simple as just thinking through that, right? 03:26 It's it's not actually a cognitive experience, it's a somatic 1, which is I think for many people at the heart of this then kinesiophobia experience. 03:36 You know, the reality as well for many athletes and many elite performers is that their performance matters to them and returning to play is a really big deal. 03:45 And there's there can be a lot of pressure and a lot of expectation around that, right? 03:49 And so as they start to work back towards returning to play, they really feel that. 03:55 There, there, there really is, whether it is, you know, whether they're putting that pressure or their that expectation on themselves or it's coming from external factors that's really there. 04:04 You know, I think the other piece is we really have to remember that so much of this return to play journey is not just on the individual athlete. 04:14 There there is, there's a support system that's involved as well, right? 04:17 There is an orthopedic surgeon, there is an athletic trainer or a physical therapist. 04:21 There is family and friends. 04:23 There's oftentimes a. 04:25 Whether it is a mental health professional or a sports psychologist, someone that is helping with the mental and emotional side of things, you know, resilience occurs in community. 04:35 I think, you know, I think we often talk about resilience being just an individual factor or skill, but it's really not. 04:42 And so if an athlete actually lacks a support system or doesn't have. 04:48 the adequate kind of structures in place, then that can certainly lead to probably a little bit more of kinesiophobia. 04:56 But again, it's really complicated. 04:58 There's a lot of pieces to it, but those are breaking down just a couple of reasons of why it might occur. 05:04 So I'll put it back to you, Dr. 05:05 Logan, and just like what's, so what's the impact of that? 05:09 Yeah, I would say, you know, the impact can be really, really big. 05:13 And so, you know, it can be that you actually delay your return to sport, even though maybe physically, you know, if you're going through your barrage of testings, like things are, you know, you're meeting all your sort of physical milestones, you still might not be ready and get that delay relative to the kinesiophobia. 05:32 The other thing that's really sort of important is, and I watch for this a lot when I'm like looking at people and how they perform movements. 05:40 There's a lot of quantitative measures that we have. 05:42 Like what's the range of motion? 05:43 You know What's their strength? 05:44 Like the force in Newton's. 05:46 But I'll often sort of comment on the qualitative side because the the patterns of how we move are affected by how we feel. 05:54 You know So if we have altered mechanics because we're fearful of that movement and we're not feeling like prepared or ready for it, that's going to like risk our re-injury rate. 06:07 And not even just like the re-injury rate on that particular side, but sometimes your other side. 06:12 So overall, like you know kinesiophobia affects us physically. 06:18 And you know we really, it's important to really think about like how can we overcome this kinesiophobia? 06:24 'Cause there are strategies and I'm going to let Emily you know kind of lean into like her you know professional expertise more so than... 06:32 This is more outside my scope, but I think the strategies, you know, understanding that there are some ways that you can work on this are important to know. 06:40 Yeah, so umYeah, again, there's, we're gonna, this, this podcast episode in itself could be hours and hours, right? 06:50 We feel like we could talk about this forever. 06:51 But, you know, the first piece is when we are dealing with a phobia, right? 06:57 So I would say the same thing for, you know, if it's arachnophobia, if it's any type of phobia, right? 07:04 You know, and and looking at the impact, it's always a great idea and it can always be a great idea to work with a professional, right? 07:11 Not trying to kind of what I call white knuckle it and navigate this on your own. 07:18 So what I would say is first and foremost, kind of looking for a professional. 07:24 I think it should be someone that's licensed a mental health clinician that can can work with phobias. 07:29 really understands because at the heart of phobia is going to be working with some component of the nervous system, some component of the stress response. 07:37 When there is fear involved, you are working with the stress response, right? 07:42 You are working with the nervous system, which is making a shift into what we call a sympathetic, right? 07:49 Or fight, fight,Response. 07:52 It's often referred to as I just call it the stress response, right? 07:55 And you have to work with that stress response in order to work with the phobia. 08:00 It is not a mental thing. 08:02 You can do as much kind of mental and self-talk as you want. 08:06 That's not going to move the needle on your actual nervous. 08:09 System. 08:09 So what's occurring, you know, in in your nervous system. 08:13 OK, so we have to actually acknowledge that. 08:15 That's the second thing that I'm going to say I have. 08:18 I've had a few athletes that I've worked with that as soon as this fear comes up. 08:23 They're like, push it away, put it on the back burner, right? 08:27 I'm going to avoid, I'm going to distract. 08:28 I'm not going to think about it. 08:30 And we know that the more that you do th

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The Unbroken Athlete Podcast is your go-to resource for building resilience, mental toughness, and the skills needed to thrive in the highs and lows of athletic life. Designed for athletes of all levels, this podcast dives into the challenges of injury recovery, performance pressure, and staying motivated in the face of setbacks. Through expert interviews, actionable strategies, and inspiring stories, we equip athletes with the tools to stay mentally strong, bounce back from adversity, and achieve their full potential—because every athlete deserves to feel unbreakable.