The Indie 500 Podcast

Breddy Tidgewater and Helio Novell

An indie music podcast featuring discussion and album reviews of the Indie Rock albums from NME's 2013 Top 500 Albums list, with a focus on music history and world history. Each episode digs into the story of the album and the era it was recorded in, profiles the artists, and features interviews with musicians, critics, and writers. We're prone to following the rabbit down the hole — expect offshoot episodes chasing whatever topic we get fascinated with along the way.

  1. Sep 25

    IFP Pit Stop: Talking "Grunge! The Story of the Music That Redefined Rock" with author Gillian Gaar

    This week the Indie 500 spins Screaming Trees' Dust from NME's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. We're joined by music journalist and author Gillian G. Gaar, a longtime writer for The Rocket, Seattle's legendary free music paper, and a contributor to Mojo, Rolling Stone and Goldmine. Her new book, Grunge: The Story of the Music That Redefined Rock (Quarto), is out October 13, 2026. Gillian takes us inside The Rocket's offices in the years before grunge exploded. That was a Seattle of chainsaw-cut exit doors, punk shows at Elks lodges, and a 1984 poster that declared the local scene "found dead." She explains why Deep Six and Sub Pop 100 make 1986 the starting line, and how Jack Endino's cheap Reciprocal Recording became the scene's sound. She also looks at how Sub Pop's hype turned into self-fulfilling prophecy, and why Seattle bands helped each other instead of competing. From there we cover the pressure that money and major labels brought, the losses of the early '90s, the Soundgarden and Alice in Chains reunions, and the Pacific Northwest bands history skipped over. We also discuss why grunge may have been the last great organic music movement. Catch Gillian at Elliott Bay Book Company on Capitol Hill on October 14 (free, all ages), and later next month October 24th at her event in Aberdeen at Unplugged at The Music Project Chapters 0:37 Intro: Gillian G. Gaar and The Rocket1:46 Who was G3? Writing for Backlash6:24 Getting hired at The Rocket (thanks, Kate Bush)10:32 Seattle's punk scene in 197913:57 "Seattle Scene Found Dead": the 1984 poster16:15 Why 1986? Deep Six and Sub Pop 10018:28 "A Bunch of Noises, All Distinct"24:03 Why Seattle cooperated instead of competed25:43 Black Flag, Big Black and touring punk26:52 Jack Endino and Reciprocal Recording28:39 Sub Pop, hype and "world domination"34:11 Women and diversity in the early scene40:44 When Nevermind hit #143:48 How money changed the scene47:58 Grunge's "jump the shark" moment52:30 "The best of times and the worst of times"56:34 Grunge on the NME 500 list59:13 The last organic music movement62:23 Instant oatmeal trivia and the bucking spitting mummy cat65:23 Collecting grunge memorabilia69:55 Reunions: Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Mad Season72:40 Overlooked Seattle records78:32 The Indie 500 time machine82:43 Book events and where to find Gillian Pre-order Grunge: The Story of the Music That Redefined RockElliott Bay Book Company event, Oct 14Aberdeen event Unplugged at the Music ProjectGillian on Instagram: Gillianthegaar X @Gilliangaar Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GillianGaarWriter Thank you to Quarto Publishing for the complimentary copy of the book. There was no money exchanged and we were free to speak our minds on the book.

    IFP Pit Stop: Talking "Grunge! The Story of the Music That Redefined Rock" with author Gillian Gaar
  2. Sep 14

    Episode 38 - Wild Beasts - Smother - Falsetto Start, offense #244, 5 yard penalty, repeat 1st down

    #244 Wild Beasts - Smother The Indie 500 Podcast is back from a long summer hiatus, and Season 3 opens with Wild Beasts' 2011 album Smother, sitting at #244 on NME's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. Neither host had heard it before this week — no Limbo Panto, no Two Dancers, no Hayden Thorpe falsetto — which makes this a genuine first-listen deep dive into one of the strangest, most committed art-pop records British indie produced in the 2010s. We start with a Season 3 warm-up: 90s guilty pleasures, top three each. Eurodance obsessions (Alice DJ's "Better Off Alone," Culture Beat's "Mr. Vain"), George Michael's "Freedom! '90," Madonna's "Like a Prayer," The Cardigans' "Lovefool," and the strange true story of Stardust's "Music Sounds Better with You" — the one-off Paris side project that turned down $3 million from Virgin and quietly became the prototype for Daft Punk's Discovery. Then the band history: two 16-year-olds at Queen Katherine School in Kendal, Cumbria, naming themselves after the Fauvist painters because there was nothing else to do; the move to Leeds; Tom Fleming joining on bass and bringing the baritone that makes the two-voice Wild Beasts sound work; Bad Sneakers Records, the signing to Domino, Limbo Panto, and the Mercury-nominated breakthrough Two Dancers. Our World Context segment plants Smother in May 9, 2011: Katy Perry's "E.T." at #1 in the US, LMFAO's "Party Rock Anthem" all over the UK, Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party rising out of post-recession anger, the News of the World phone-hacking scandal, the royal wedding, the bin Laden raid, the debut of Minecraft and Angry Birds, and Rebecca Black's "Friday" inventing the modern viral pile-on. The making of section covers the East London basement demos, the retreat to Bryn Derwen studio in Snowdonia, producer Richard Formby as unofficial fifth member and tiebreaker, and a recording philosophy built on subtraction, improvisation, and one-take crudeness — including a piece of "Albatross" tracked into a MacBook mic at 3 a.m. Plus Thorpe on intimacy, lust, and lyrics as self-discovery, and the near-unanimous 2011 press: NME 9/10, Pitchfork 8.2, a UK #17 chart peak. Then the honest verdict — a divisive falsetto, an acquired taste, and two hosts who land on real respect for a record they may not revisit — with time for "Bed of Nails," "Plaything," "Loop the Loop," "Burning," and the closing stretch of "End Come Too Soon," and an argument that Smother is secretly the best 80s throwback of 2011. The Eye of Agamotto hits #244 across the multiverse: Kanye's 808s & Heartbreak, Pavement, Dazed and Confused, Twister, and J.G. Ballard's High Rise. We spin the wheel for next week and land on De La Soul's 3 Feet High and Rising — plus an upcoming interview with grunge author Gillian Gaar. Rate, review, and subscribe. Questions to theindie500podcast@gmail.com.

    Episode 38 - Wild Beasts - Smother - Falsetto Start, offense #244, 5 yard penalty, repeat 1st down
  3. May 19

    Recorded On A Podcast With Better Equipment: Episode 4 - Purple Who?

    Krautrock music history meets New German Cinema in this episode of Recorded On a Podcast With Better Equipment (ROAPWBE), the Indie 500 Podcast's music history sub-series. Host Kyle Reiff explores the deep link between the German Krautrock scene and the New German Cinema movement of the 1960s and '70s, tracing the melodic brilliance of Popol Vuh, Tangerine Dream's breakthrough into Hollywood film scoring, and the creative partnerships between these Krautrock pioneers and legendary filmmakers like Werner Herzog. Follow along with Kyle's curated playlist for this episode. Recorded On a Podcast With Better Equipment is a sub-series of The Indie 500 Podcast spearheaded by show contributor Kyle Reiff, diving into music history topics alongside our main NME Top 500 Albums coverage. Check out Kyle's Bandcamp store for Krautrock ephemera and posters, and give his music group Eerie Indiana a listen. If you're searching for Krautrock history, Popol Vuh, Tangerine Dream, New German Cinema, or the music behind Werner Herzog's films, this episode is for you. Like and subscribe to this series to get notified of new episodes — we're aiming for a monthly release. Follow along with Kyle's curated playlist for this episode! Recorded on a Podcast with Better Equipment is a sub-series of The Indie 500 podcast spearheaded by show contributor Kyle Reiff. Be sure to check out ⁠⁠⁠Kyle's bandcamp store ⁠⁠⁠for some incredible krautrock ephemera and posters. He is also a member of the music group⁠⁠⁠ Eerie Indiana ⁠⁠⁠Give them a listen! Be sure to like and subscribe to this series to be notified of new episodes of this show as we are aiming for a monthly release of this sub-series

    Recorded On A Podcast With Better Equipment: Episode 4 - Purple Who?

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An indie music podcast featuring discussion and album reviews of the Indie Rock albums from NME's 2013 Top 500 Albums list, with a focus on music history and world history. Each episode digs into the story of the album and the era it was recorded in, profiles the artists, and features interviews with musicians, critics, and writers. We're prone to following the rabbit down the hole — expect offshoot episodes chasing whatever topic we get fascinated with along the way.