First Nations Affairs

Bec

🎙️ First Nations Affairs Podcast – Where First Nations Leadership Meets Climate, Finance & ESG The First Nations Affairs Podcast is your go-to space for deep insights at the intersection of First Nations governance, climate action, finance, and ESG. Hosted by Bec Blurton, this podcast challenges the status quo, driving conversations that move beyond tokenism into real, strategic transformation. From sustainability frameworks to corporate accountability, we unpack how business, investment, and policy can embed First Nations leadership—not as an afterthought, but as a fundamental pillar of success. Whether you’re in ESG, impact investing, or sustainability, this is the space to explore what true First Nations economic participation looks like.

  1. APR 19

    Embedding Authority: Outcomes, Accountability, and the Path Forward

    🎙️ Episode 3 | Embedding Authority: Outcomes, Accountability, and the Path Forward Podcast Series: Reframing Reef Governance: Traditional Owner Leadership in Practice Episode Description: In the final episode of the series, Bec Blurton and Gugu-Badhun man Ben Gertz turn to outcomes — what six years of genuine co-design produced, where the process fell short, and what long-term accountability requires once a program of this kind concludes. Over the life of the Reef Trust Partnership, $35 million was dispersed through Traditional Owner Technical Working Groups operating with genuine decision-making authority. The Healthy Water Committee allocated $5.5 million and supported the establishment of more than 260 ranger positions across the full length of the reef catchment. Ben reflects on the governance capacity built through the process and the individual journeys of committee members who entered uncertain of their credentials and left with the confidence to take on director roles and international engagements. He is also direct about where the process fell short — in building relationships with mainstream conservation bodies and agricultural stakeholders and in reaching the central and southern sections of the catchment. The conversation addresses scalability, the risks of replication without depth, what long-term accountability looks like after a program ends, and what Ben hopes to see across the reef governance landscape in five years' time. 📍 A First Nations Affairs × Ben Gertz collaboration #ReefGovernance #TraditionalOwners #Accountability #FirstNationsLeadership #GreatBarrierReef #Conservation #ClimateFinance #FirstNationsAffairs www.firstnationsaffairs.com hello@firstnationsaffairs.com www.firstnationsaffairs.com hello@firstnationsaffairs.com

    43 min
  2. APR 19

    Operationalising Co-Design Across Institutions

    🎙️ Episode 2 | Operationalising Co-Design Across Institutions Podcast Series: Reframing Reef Governance: Traditional Owner Leadership in Practice Episode Description: In this second episode, Bec Blurton continues her conversation with Gugu-Badhun man and Deputy Chair of the Healthy Water Traditional Owner Technical Working Group, Ben Gertz, moving from historical context to the practical realities of what genuine co-design required to function. The Healthy Water Committee began its work in 2020 in the midst of COVID-19, meeting fortnightly on Zoom with a blank mandate and $8 million to allocate. Ben walks through what the first year actually looked like — not designing programs, but working through the institutional scepticism that decades of consultation had created. He reflects on what it took to believe the offer was real and why that process was essential rather than incidental. The conversation also explores how Traditional Ecological Knowledge was integrated alongside Western science throughout the committee's work — not as supplementary input, but as a parallel knowledge system with its own rigour and depth. Ben shares a creation story from Gugu-Badhun Country that encodes 7,000 years of geological history and what it means for that knowledge to be in the room with genuine authority behind it. 📍 A First Nations Affairs × Ben Gertz collaboration #CoDesign #TraditionalEcologicalKnowledge #ReefGovernance #FirstNationsGovernance #GreatBarrierReef #IndigenousKnowledge #ESG #FirstNationsAffairs www.firstnationsaffairs.com hello@firstnationsaffairs.com www.firstnationsaffairs.com hello@firstnationsaffairs.com

    47 min
  3. APR 19

    Historical Settings and the Limits of Consultation

    🎙️ Episode 1 | Historical Settings and the Limits of Consultation Podcast Series: Reframing Reef Governance: Traditional Owner Leadership in Practice Episode Description: In this opening episode, Bec Blurton sits down with Gugu-Badhun man and Deputy Chair of the Healthy Water Traditional Owner Technical Working Group, Ben Gertz, to examine the historical landscape of Traditional Owner engagement in reef conservation – and the structural conditions that made reform necessary. A desktop review conducted at the outset of the Reef Trust Partnership found close to 600 water quality projects funded across the Great Barrier Reef catchment. Six were led by Traditional Owner groups. Less than one percent of total expenditure had reached them. Ben reflects on what those numbers reveal about whose governance has historically been considered legitimate, what standard consultation has looked like in practice, and how the Reef Trust Partnership's approach — giving Traditional Owner Technical Working Groups genuine decision-making authority and a blank canvas — represented a meaningful structural departure. We also discuss the role of trust in any genuine co-design process and why the time it takes to build it is not a delay to the work — it is the work beginning. 📍 A First Nations Affairs × Ben Gertz collaboration #TraditionalOwners #ReefGovernance #CoDesign #GreatBarrierReef #FirstNationsLeadership #Conservation #ESG #FirstNationsAffairs www.firstnationsaffairs.com hello@firstnationsaffairs.com www.firstnationsaffairs.com hello@firstnationsaffairs.com

    44 min

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🎙️ First Nations Affairs Podcast – Where First Nations Leadership Meets Climate, Finance & ESG The First Nations Affairs Podcast is your go-to space for deep insights at the intersection of First Nations governance, climate action, finance, and ESG. Hosted by Bec Blurton, this podcast challenges the status quo, driving conversations that move beyond tokenism into real, strategic transformation. From sustainability frameworks to corporate accountability, we unpack how business, investment, and policy can embed First Nations leadership—not as an afterthought, but as a fundamental pillar of success. Whether you’re in ESG, impact investing, or sustainability, this is the space to explore what true First Nations economic participation looks like.