The Plucky Bamboo Podcast

Chris Jones

We feature some of the top business leaders in Sustainability, talking through their growth challenges and how they're solving them. From marketing & sales to recruitment & retention, what does it actually take to grow an impact-first business today? If you're growing a Sustainability business or want to move into it, this show is a must-listen for you. Learn from the brightest and most cutting-edge minds in the sector!

  1. Aug 13

    Angelo Amicarelli of Finapp talks cosmic ray sensors, niche positioning & scaling hardware

    Most founders chase the biggest possible market. Angelo Amicarelli chased the smallest one he could own completely. In this episode of The Plucky Bamboo Podcast, Angelo Amicarelli, co-founder of FinApp, talks about building a category of one. FinApp uses cosmic ray neutron detection, technology that started as university research into homeland security, to measure water in soil, snow, and crops. There are only three companies in the world doing this. FinApp is one of them. Angelo explains why he'd rather spend an hour explaining something no one has heard of than compete in a market everyone already understands, and how that choice has shaped everything from FinApp's name to its sales cycle. We discuss: Why FinApp built the technology first and found the market second, and why Angelo wouldn't recommend that path to anyone else The reseller partnership that looked perfect and quietly went nowhere Why "the technology speaks for itself" has cost Angelo money in two separate companies How FinApp's pitch had to fragment across agriculture, meteorology, and disaster monitoring What he actually screens for when hiring salespeople for a product with a multi-year sales cycle Angelo's take is direct: technology only has value once it's tied to a client's specific pain. Without that, even genuinely novel science doesn't sell itself. If you're building hardware in a technical, long-cycle sustainability market, this conversation is full of specific, hard-earned lessons on positioning, partnerships, and sales.

  2. Feb 20

    Jane Melia of Harvest Thermal talks heat pumps, product-market fit & scaling climate tech

    Clean heat is one of the biggest pieces of the climate puzzle - but it won’t scale unless it makes financial sense. In this episode of The Plucky Bamboo Podcast, I sat down with Jane Melia, Co-Founder and Chief Revenue Officer of Harvest Thermal, to explore what it really takes to bring climate hardware into the mainstream. Harvest combines heat pumps with thermal storage to deliver low-carbon heating and hot water that cuts emissions by around 90% - while lowering bills and supporting grid flexibility. But this conversation goes far beyond the technology. Jane shares: Why economics - not emissions - determine whether climate solutions scale The reality of product-market fit in climate tech Why go-to-market is often harder than building the product What founders underestimate about selling into utilities and infrastructure The mindset shift required when transitioning from CEO to CRO Why hiring the right team is one of the most important decisions a founder makes This episode is a practical look at scaling sustainability in the real world - where incentives, timing, and trust matter just as much as innovation. ———Building a climate or sustainability business and feel like the growth still runs through you?Take the free Growth Diagnostic - 6 minutes to find the biggest bottleneck holding your growth back, and see how you compare to 300+ climate founders: pluckybamboo.com/growth-diagnosticThe Plucky Bamboo Podcast: sustainability founders on how they actually grow - demand, sales, and the systems behind it. Hosted by Chris Jones.

  3. Feb 17

    Brett Walter of Climate Action Now talks civic action, climate advocacy & scaling impact through technology

    Turning climate concern into meaningful action is one of the biggest challenges facing the sustainability movement today. In this episode of The Plucky Bamboo Podcast, I sat down with Brett Walter, founder & CEO of Climate Action Now, to explore how technology can mobilise individuals to drive systemic climate impact. After a career building scalable software in Silicon Valley, Brett launched the Climate Action Now app on Earth Day 2021 with a clear goal: make it easy for people to influence legislation, corporate behaviour, and public policy directly from their phones. But creating the platform was only the beginning. Sustaining engagement, motivating action, and scaling participation required deep thinking around behavioural psychology, product design, and advocacy strategy. In this conversation, we explore: • Why systemic action scales faster than lifestyle change • How software can amplify individual climate impact • The psychology behind sustained user engagement • Why fear-based messaging often limits participation • The role of hope in driving climate action • Monetisation strategies for impact platforms • The challenges of scaling civic advocacy technology • Advice for founders building mission-driven startups If you’re building at the intersection of climate, technology, and systems change - this episode offers a thoughtful look at how digital platforms can turn awareness into action at scale.

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We feature some of the top business leaders in Sustainability, talking through their growth challenges and how they're solving them. From marketing & sales to recruitment & retention, what does it actually take to grow an impact-first business today? If you're growing a Sustainability business or want to move into it, this show is a must-listen for you. Learn from the brightest and most cutting-edge minds in the sector!