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  1. 07/28/2025

    Inventing Motion Pictures with Sound: Thomas Edison, WKL Dixon, and a Broken Cylinder

    The remarkable story of how a stick of Wrigley's chewing gum rescued a priceless piece of cinema history unfolds in this fascinating exploration of Edison, innovation, and overlooked genius. When historian Jack Stanley joins us to discuss a historic photograph from Edison's laboratory, what emerges is an incredible tale of rediscovery and ingenuity spanning over a century. While Thomas Edison gets credit for inventing motion pictures, the real pioneer was his employee William Kennedy Laurie Dixon. As Stanley reveals, Edison's true genius was "being brilliant enough to realize he wasn't brilliant" – surrounding himself with specialized talent like Dixon who developed film sprockets, created the first film studio (the "Black Maria"), and ultimately produced the first synchronized sound film in 1894, showing men dancing while Dixon played violin. The story takes an extraordinary turn when Stanley shares his firsthand account of being present in 1995 when the original sound cylinder for this historic film was discovered in the Edison archives. Broken in three pieces and sitting forgotten in a cigar box for decades, the cylinder seemed unplayable – until sound engineer Peter Dilge had a flash of inspiration while chewing gum after a dental appointment. Using ordinary Wrigley's gum to temporarily hold the cylinder fragments together, they successfully recovered the audio, reuniting sound and image for the first time since the 1890s. This little-known historical treasure isn't just fascinating trivia – it represents a pivotal moment in media technology that predated "The Jazz Singer" by 33 years. Subscribe to hear more extraordinary stories about innovation, unsung heroes, and the surprising ways history gets preserved and rediscovered when you least expect it.

    31 min

  2. 07/11/2025

    These DIY modifications will make your antique phonographs sound incredible again.

    Jack Stanley and Brett Hart reveal a revolutionary method for restoring Edison diamond disc reproducers using coin holders. Their innovative technique transforms the sound quality of century-old phonographs by addressing "reproducer arthritis" and bringing back vibrant audio reproduction that rivals or exceeds the original factory performance. • Coin holders designed for collecting can be repurposed to revitalize Edison diamond disc reproducers • The modification requires cutting and fitting the coin holders alongside appropriate gasket material • Leaving a controlled air leak in the reproducer enhances bass response and works as a tone control • This technique works on multiple types of Edison reproducers including B, C, H, and K models • The restored reproducers produce dramatically improved sound quality with enhanced clarity and bass • Materials needed are inexpensive – approximately $5 for enough coin holders to rebuild multiple reproducers • Both inventors are available to help collectors attempt this restoration (phonograph78@gmail.com and dyslexicgeniushurt@gmail.com) • Special tribute to Eric Reiss, author of "The Complete Talking Machine," who recently passed away at age 71

    46 min

  3. 06/21/2025

    Edison's Diamond Discs: The Acoustic Marvel With Brett Hurt and Jack Stanley

    What happens when the most brilliant mind in sound recording technology insists on controlling every aspect of his creation—including what music deserves to be recorded? The fascinating story of Edison's Diamond Discs reveals both technical genius and commercial tragedy. A conversation with Brett Hurt and Jack Stanley. Developed around 1908-1909, the Diamond Disc represented a complete reimagining of the phonograph record. Using vertical-cut technology rather than the lateral grooves of standard records, these discs were played with a permanent diamond stylus rather than replaceable steel needles. The result was remarkable durability—records that could be played hundreds or thousands of times without degradation—and sound quality that collectors describe as "frighteningly good" compared to contemporaries. The technical brilliance behind these discs came from Edison's team, particularly chemist Jonas Ellsworth who created the "condensite" material that gave the records their unique properties. The machines themselves were marvels of over-engineering, with practically bulletproof motors and increasingly sophisticated horn designs that produced astonishing acoustic results from an entirely mechanical system. Yet for all this innovation, Edison's personal involvement proved disastrous. Despite suffering from hearing loss, Edison insisted on personally approving every recording, rejecting anything that didn't suit his peculiar musical tastes. He despised jazz, popular dance music, and even classical composers like Mozart. While competitors embraced the sounds people actually wanted to hear, Edison stood firm as his phonograph division hemorrhaged money through the 1920s, eventually losing over a million dollars annually. The Diamond Disc story teaches us that technical excellence alone doesn't ensure success. Edison controlled every aspect of his creation—refusing to license technology to others, rejecting popular music, and insisting on expensive manufacturing processes—while more nimble competitors focused on giving consumers what they wanted. It's a cautionary tale about genius, control, and the danger of believing that if you build something superior, the world will inevitably embrace it. For collectors, these magnificent machines represent a fascinating alternate history of recorded sound—what might have been if the technical path Edison pioneered had prevailed. Take a journey into this forgotten world of acoustic marvels, stubborn genius, and the strange, wonderful sound of records built to outlast their creator.

    1h 21m

  4. 04/04/2025

    Preserving History: One Record at a Time: Our Conversation with DJ Mac!

    Time travel exists—and it sounds like a needle dropping on shellac. DJ Mac (Michael Cumella) transports us into the world of antique phonograph collecting, where century-old machines breathe life into forgotten voices from the past. As administrator of the Facebook group "Antique Phonograph Enthusiasts," Mac has created a haven where veteran collectors and wide-eyed newcomers alike can share knowledge about these remarkable machines. His philosophy is refreshingly inclusive: whether you've acquired your first Victrola or are hunting for a $9,000 Edison Concert phonograph with original horns, this hobby has room for everyone. "This is a place for people who are advanced collectors who've been doing it for many decades, and also for those who come on the internet and say 'I just found this in my grandmother's attic.'" What began as curiosity about old-time music referenced in Bugs Bunny cartoons evolved into a 20-year radio show career and a unique business. Mac now travels nationwide as a "phonograph DJ," bringing his meticulously restored machines to weddings and themed events. Dressed in period attire with authentic equipment, he creates immersive experiences where guests encounter music exactly as it would have sounded a century ago. "People are hearing it more with their eyes than their ears," he explains about these performances that bridge entertainment and education. The conversation reveals how these artifacts connect us to forgotten cultural moments—from the evolution of "jass" to jazz, society's moral panic over ragtime's "dangerous" syncopated rhythms, and pioneering artists like Broadway powerhouse Nora Bayes, whose unmarked grave Mac helped memorialize after nearly a century. His cemetery tours at Woodlawn combine history with live performances on portable machines at the gravesites of Duke Ellington, Miles Davis, and other musical legends. Whether you're a seasoned collector or simply curious about how our ancestors experienced music, this episode invites you to slow down, wind up a spring motor, and let history sing through a brass horn. What forgotten treasures are waiting in your family's attic?

    59 min

  5. 03/11/2025

    From Berliner to Victor: Early Disc Recordings: Part 3 of My Conversation with Jack Stanley

    The scratchy, haunting sounds of early disc recordings transport us to a revolutionary moment in human history when voices and music could be captured and replayed at will. In this deep dive with collector and historian Jack Stanley, we unravel the forgotten story of how the disc record transformed entertainment forever. While Edison's cylinder phonograph is often celebrated as the first recording device, the disc format that would eventually dominate the market emerged through a completely different technological path. Beginning with Berliner's gramophone and its primitive zinc discs, the industry rapidly evolved through technological innovation and fierce business competition. Stanley guides us through the fascinating corporate chess game that unfolded between 1900-1910, revealing how companies like Victor, Columbia, and Zonophone battled for market supremacy. The stories are filled with unexpected twists - from Columbia accidentally selling their manufacturing capacity to their arch-rival, to the brilliant marketing strategies that elevated certain brands above others through prestigious opera recordings. What makes this history so compelling is how modern it feels. The cutthroat competition, patent battles, and strategic partnerships mirror today's tech industry conflicts. We witness Eldridge Johnson's visionary understanding that premium content (in this case, recordings by the world's greatest opera singers like Caruso) could establish brand dominance regardless of technical differences between competitors. The episode reveals how these early recording pioneers created both the technological foundations and the business models that would shape recorded sound throughout the 20th century. From the composition of the shellac discs themselves to the marketing strategies that sold them, these innovations established patterns that persisted for decades afterward. Whether you're fascinated by vintage technology, business history, or simply curious about how we moved from Edison's first words to today's streaming services, this exploration of early disc recordings offers remarkable insights into a transformative period in media history.

    1h 36m

  6. 03/04/2025

    Society and The Phonograph: Part 2 of My Conversation with Jack Stanley.

    Step back in time with our latest podcast episode as we dive into the revolutionary world of the phonograph and how it forever changed society's interaction with sound. Thomas Edison’s invention began as an audacious experiment, sparking skepticism among the public who initially viewed it as a clever trick rather than a genuine technological breakthrough. We explore the fascinating trajectory of the phonograph's evolution, revealing the path from its early days of skepticism to its widespread acceptance in homes worldwide. In this episode, we uncover how the phonograph not only transformed individual lives by making recorded music accessible but also acted as a social catalyst. The incorporation of music into the home changed family dynamics and cultural interactions. We examine the adventurous spirit of Edison, his challenges with public perception, and how he ultimately conquered these hurdles through innovation and perseverance. Listen as we take you through the whimsical challenges Edison faced, including the unexpected resistance from the public and experts alike, who questioned whether sound recording was even possible. You’ll hear about the dazzling transition from simple tinfoil recordings to the rich experience of wax cylinders, which propelled the phonograph into popular culture. As the phonograph evolved, so too did music. The emergence of jazz and its cultural significance is discussed, highlighting the societal implications of this vibrant genre and its roots in American history. We also touch on Edison's marketing strategies to promote the phonograph, including the rare Edison Realism Test designed to immerse listeners in the experience of sound. Listen in and get a taste of how the phonograph served as both a historical artifact and a reflection of the changes in human experience related to music and interaction. Each story and anecdote shared reveals just how deeply the phonograph has influenced the way we hear, produce, and engage with sound in our lives today. Don’t miss this journey through time as we unravel the rich legacy of Edison's phonograph. We invite you to subscribe, leave a review, and share your thoughts on your own experiences with music and sound in modern life!

    54 min

  7. 02/24/2025

    Brett Hurt: A Life's Journey Collecting and Preserving Antique Phonographs

    Discover the artistry and dedication behind antique phonograph restoration with our exceptional guest, Bret Hurt, also known as the dyslexic genius. Journey with us into Brett's workshop, where he meticulously breathes new life into these historical audio machines. From a Triumph motor’s intricate reassembly to tales of collecting tools over four decades, Brett’s passion for preserving the past is palpable. His stories, including a heart-stopping moment involving a toppling tool cabinet, underscore the skill and precision required in this unique craft. In our exploration of vintage music memorabilia, we uncover the joy and satisfaction found in curating a personal collection. Imagine a dedicated music room adorned with original RCA chairs, Victor horns, and rare records, each piece with its own fascinating story. As we share anecdotes of acquiring treasures from yard sales and antique shows, the charm and historical significance of these nostalgic items come to life. Special attention is given to the camaraderie within the collector community, where knowledge and rare finds are shared generously. Our conversation also turns to the evolving landscape of the antique phonograph market, examining trends such as declining diamond disc prices and the role of modern technology in music collecting. We highlight Thomas Edison’s unexpected influence on phonograph music, with stories of unforeseen hits produced during his absences. This episode is a heartfelt tribute to experts like Brad, whose unwavering dedication to preserving audio history is truly inspiring. Join us to celebrate the passion and effort that goes into reviving these audio treasures, offering a glimpse into a bygone era of sound.

    52 min

  8. 02/16/2025

    Unveiling Edison, The Man behind the Phonograph: Part 1 of My Conversation with Jack Stanley

    Thomas Edison’s legacy goes beyond the light bulb; his phonograph changed the landscape of music and entertainment. This episode explores Edison's innovations, theatrical approach to invention, and the enduring impact of his work on sound recording. • Edison's multifaceted personality as an inventor and showman  • The importance of phonographs in cultural history  • Comical misadventures in early sound recording technology  • The evolution of sound recording formats and techniques  • The phonograph's enduring legacy and its emotional connection across generations

    1h 4m
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