Design Deep Dive: A Design Psychology Podcast

Dr. Suzan Ahmed, Ph.D.

Design Deep Dive, with psychologist Dr. Suzan Ahmed (Dr. Za), explores how we relate to our environments + place, from our homes to our hometowns, from the built environment to our planet. By deeply understanding our relationship to place, we can create a more conscious relationship to these spaces + the world around us. Each episode, Dr. Za interviews guests to discuss topics across the spectrum of design + psychology, as well as share my own experiences with place. When we can awaken to our relationship to place, we can work towards designing a more inclusive, safe, and just world.

Episodes

  1. FEB 6

    11. The Psychology of Aesthetics with Dr. Jan Mikuni

    How do aesthetics play a role in our mental health and emotional wellbeing? In this episode of Design Deep Dive, I chat with Dr. Jan Mikuni, a researcher in the psychology of art and aesthetics, about the intricate relationship between aesthetics, psychology, and design. Jan’s work explores aesthetic experiences in everyday life—ranging from encounters with artwork and museum exhibitions to interactions with urban environments—and how these experiences shape human perception, emotion, and behavior. Her core interest lies not only in understanding the nature and quality of aesthetic experiences, but also in examining their broader societal impact. Jan shares her journey into the field of aesthetic psychology, discussing how environments and design influence human perception, emotion, and behavior. We explore concepts such as museum fatigue, the importance of aesthetics in wellbeing, and the psychological implications of our relationship with place. We also discuss the need for interdisciplinary collaboration to enhance the understanding and application of aesthetic principles in design, with the aim of improving individual and societal wellbeing. In this episode: Aesthetics as a psychological process, not just about beautyUnderstanding our relationship to place is essential for our mental healthDesign as a tool for self-reflection and emotion regulationThe importance of interdisciplinary collaboration in enhancing the fields of design and psychology Connect with Jan: Website: https://jan-mikuni.com/en/ Empirical Visual Aesthetics (EVA) Lab   Connect with Dr. Za: Website: www.designwithdrza.com Email: suzan@designwithdrza.com Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/designwithdr.za/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Book a Design Psychology Consult Call⁠

    44 min
  2. 12/05/2025

    10. Design, Music, and Flow: The Future of Healing Spaces with Mishleen Marcos

    Can virtual environments help us heal anxiety and create a sense of safety amidst uncertainty? In this episode of Design Deep Dive, design psychologist Dr. Suzan Ahmed dives in with Mishleen Marcos, Palestinian interior designer and design instructor, to discuss her innovative research and the power of biophilic design in virtual reality environments to support mental health. Mishleen Marcos is an interior designer and design instructor who recently completed her master’s degree in Art Therapy at Dar Al-Kalima University. Her work explores the intersection of interior design, virtual reality, music, and emotional wellbeing, with a focus on creating multisensory environments that support healing, presence, and connection. Mishleen shares her journey from interior design to art therapy, emphasizing the importance of creating spaces that foster healing and connection. We explore biophilic design, the role of music in therapeutic environments, and the potential of virtual reality to create immersive experiences that reduce anxiety and facilitate a state of flow. We also discuss the future of design psychology, advocating for a more human-centered approach that prioritizes personal connection and emotional sustainability.   In this episode: The role of virtual reality and music in creating therapeutic interventionsEmotional (and not just environmental) sustainability as an important component in designAI and other technology as tools of support The legacy of design as a reflection of the experiences and feelings it creates for others  Connect with Mishleen: mishleenmorcus@gmail.com Therapeutic Music by Dr. Nawra Kurzom: Music for Concentration The Magic of the Night Sunrise   Connect with Dr. Za: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/designwithdr.za/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Book a Design Psychology Consult Call⁠   Chapters   00:00 Introduction to Design and Healing 04:25 The Journey into Biophilic Design and VR 08:40 Research Findings and Impact on Students 12:32 The Role of Music in Healing Spaces 16:48 Creating Flow States in Design 21:11 The Intersection of AI, Technology, and Human Connection 26:12 AI in Mental Health Support 29:12 The Emotional Connection to Home 31:57 The Future of Design Psychology 37:06 Living in the Moment and Legacy

    41 min
  3. 11/07/2025

    9. From Depth Psychology to Restorative Design with Desirée Gonzalez, M.A., SEED AP

    What can our relationships to home, body, and environment teach us about becoming conscious creators of our lives? In this episode of Design Deep Dive, design psychologist Dr. Suzan Ahmed dives in with Desirée Gonzalez, a Social Psychologist and Designer specialized in Community, Liberation, Indigenous, and Ecological Psychologies, to discuss the importance of creating restorative environments that promote liberation and social justice, as well as the role of design psychology in fostering a sense of groundedness and embodiment – inside and out. Desirée is a Social, Economic, and Environmental Design Accredited Professional, a Trauma-Informed Design Practitioner, and a Design Fellow at both the Centre for Conscious Design (the CCD), as well as Design Corps where she is also a Project Manager in Public Interest Design working with Indigenous Architects and Designers. Desirée shares her unique journey as a designer and social psychologist, as she reflects on her personal connection to place and the significance of viewing the body as a sanctuary and symbol of the unconscious. The conversation explores the empowerment that comes from conscious creation and the responsibility to shape a future that honors both individual and collective identities.   In this episode:  The importance of integrating restorative practices into the built environment.The symbolism of home, the unconscious, and the body through the lens of depth psychology.Empowerment in design as particularly significant for women of color.Conscious creation as a process of also dismantling harmful belief systems. Connect with Desirée: Centre for Conscious Design Reimagining Worlds Without Whiteness Podcast Indigenous Public Interest Design Institute Hausense Consultancy   Connect with Dr. Za: Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/designwithdr.za/⁠⁠ Book a Design Psychology Consult Call   Chapters   00:00 Introduction to Design and Psychology 03:14 Desirée's Journey into Design 06:07 The Importance of Design Psychology 09:39 Conscious Creation and Personal Reflection 12:38 The Body as Home and Sanctuary 15:41 Empowerment through Design and Identity 18:32 Future of Design Psychology 21:40 Legacy and Honoring the Past

    36 min
  4. 06/06/2025

    6. Creating Authentic Spaces with June Reese

    How do we create spaces that reflect our authentic selves, especially during periods of transition in life? In this episode of Design Deep Dive, I chat with June Reese, a creative strategist, experience architect, and designer, about navigating our emotional connections to place, authenticity, and designing spaces that feel true to who we are. June shares her unique journey as a designer and the process of creating her NAACP-nominated book Iconic Home, celebrating Black designers and providing accessible ways to engage with interior design. We also discuss June’s experience of engaging in the design psychology process, the importance of mentorship and community in the design industry, her evolving professional identity, and the power of creating a home that supports your current phase of life. In this episode: Navigating working with design clients and supporting their emotional needsEmbracing one's unique journey and allowing your home to reflect thatThe importance of being true to yourself in making design choicesThe potential for collaboration between psychologists and designers to enhance our understanding of how we relate to spaces Connect with June: Website: ⁠⁠https://junereese.com⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thejunereese__⁠⁠ Book: Iconic Home House of June Interiors Black Interior Designers, Inc. Connect with Dr. Za: Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/designwithdr.za/⁠⁠ Book a Design Psychology Consult Call: ⁠⁠https://suzan-ahmed.clientsecure.me

    41 min

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Design Deep Dive, with psychologist Dr. Suzan Ahmed (Dr. Za), explores how we relate to our environments + place, from our homes to our hometowns, from the built environment to our planet. By deeply understanding our relationship to place, we can create a more conscious relationship to these spaces + the world around us. Each episode, Dr. Za interviews guests to discuss topics across the spectrum of design + psychology, as well as share my own experiences with place. When we can awaken to our relationship to place, we can work towards designing a more inclusive, safe, and just world.