SOURCE NEEDED

Abi Montalvo & Liz Hébert
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SOURCE NEEDED

In SOURCE NEEDED Abi and Liz discuss the cultural phenomena of the day - from painting conservation to film to poetry to the art market. Guilty of forming opinions on such topics without a source to back the claim, this podcast is an homage to those moments when our conversations precede research. (That said, we do our best to stick to the framework of a cultural ‘object’ per episode, and link the mentioned papers/tiktoks/memes/oddly specific wikipedia pages in the bibliomaniac caption). Intrigued? Subscribe to SOURCE NEEDED for weekly episodes and (unsubstantiated) extras. xoxo Abi + Liz

Episodes

  1. 13H AGO

    forgery for beginners

    Abi + Liz break down the art of forgery and go beyond the relic cult of art in this jam packed episode of the SOURCE NEEDED podcast.  Check out more of SOURCE NEEDED!!! do it. do it now. Patreon: patreon.com/SOURCENEEDED Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/sourceneeded?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== BIBLIOGRAPHY [definitely improperly formatted this week] 1:18 Noah Charney, "The Art of Forgery," published by Phaidon, 2015. 11:23 Alexander Nagel, "Beyond the relic cult of art." 14:23 Michaelangelo, "Bacchus.” [Liz got it a bit wrong, but you can read the full story about this sculpture here ⇒ https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/michelangelos-bacchus/] 15:50 Image of the Caryatid statues (AKA the Elgin marbles) on display in Greece at the Acropolis Museum. A spot remains empty in case the British ever return the missing statue to its rightful home. 16:49 Artistic rendering of the Florentine Duomo, artist unknown to this bibliography writer. [Learn more about the history of the Duomo’s facade ⇒ https://duomo.firenze.it/en/opera-magazine/post/6558/the-facade-of-florence-cathedral] 17:29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol9CCM240Ag 20:04 Pablo Picasso, “Les Demoiselles d’Avignon,” 1907. 22:16 “The Price of Everything,” documentary by Madman Films, 2018. 25:40 Image of a ‘forgery factory’ from https://artstormer.com/2012/04/06/made-in-china-the-city-of-dafen/ [check out the webpage for more info, it’s fascinating stuff] 27:22 Peter Schjeldahl, “Dutch Master” New Yorker article, 2008. 29:21 Johannes Vermeer, “Woman writing a letter, with her Maid,” 1671. 29:24 Han van Meegeren, “The Supper at Emmaus,” 1937. 35:54 “Catch me if you can,” starring Tom Hanks and Leonardo DiCaprio, 2002. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71rDQ7z4eFg 35:59 “How to Steal a Million,” starring Audrey Hepburn and Peter O’Toole, 1966. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cyDLcU-3g Theme Song Credit Acid Jazz Loop - Music Bed by gulyas25 -- https://freesound.org/s/233699/ -- License: Creative Commons 0

    42 min

  2. MAR 13

    ponderings on art patronage

    Are the Kardashians the modern day Medici or is that a grossly false equivalency? Abi and Liz are getting into it in this episode of the SOURCE NEEDED podcast. Check out more of SOURCE NEEDED!!! do it. do it now.PATREON: http://patreon.com/SOURCENEEDEDINSTA: https://www.instagram.com/sourceneeded?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== BIBLIOGRAPHY [and notes]1. Sandro Botticelli, “Adoration of the Magi,” oil on canvas, 1475. https://medicipatronsaints.wordpress.com/works-in-the-exhibition/sandro-botticelli-adoration-of-the-magi/ 2. @kendalljenner, “posing in front of a casual Katz to show off your easter dress, but let’s be for real - it’s for clout,” instagram photo. 3. Alex Katz, “Vivien,” oil on canvas, 2012. https://icon.ink/articles/kendall-jenner-art/ 4. Jacques Barzun, “An Insoluble Problem: The Patronage of Art,” *Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society* 131, no. 2 (1987): 121–31. http://www.jstor.org/stable/986785. 5. Maurizio Cattelan, “Comedian,” mixed media, 2019. 6. @Knits.n.notes, “Amsterdam based knitting circle,” instagram account. 7. *Well I just kind of like it*, edited by Wendy Erskine, (idk the publishing info). 8. Joseph Scott, “The Lady in my Living Room,” in *Well I just kind of like it*, ed. Wendy Erskine, (idk the publishing info) pg. 28. 9. Sandro Botticelli, “Adoration of the Magi,” oil on canvas, 1475.  10. CJ the X, “Subjectivity in Art,” video essay by CJ the X, 30 July, 2022, video, 1:33:08, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPrNWuppMcc  11. Emily Dickinson, “Perception of an Object Costs,” in *Well I just kind of like it*, ed. Wendy Erskine, (idk the publishing info but here’s a link to the complete works of Emily Dickinson: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/12242/12242-h/12242-h.htm) pg. 41. 12. “Official website of Vivian Maier," [created by John Maloof, the man who discovered her work and the chief curator of Maier’s photography] [https://www.vivianmaier.com](https://www.vivianmaier.com/) 13. “Dickinson,” starring Hailee Steinfeld, created by Alena Smith, Apple TV show, 2019. 14. Fra Bartolomeo, “Portrait of Girolamo Savonarola,” oil on panel, 1498. 15. [BONUS VIEWING] “Savonarola and the Bonfire of the Vanities,” YouTube video by the history guy, 3 December, 2018, video, 13:21, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVtKR4pwlDw Theme Song CreditAcid Jazz Loop - Music Bed by gulyas25 -- https://freesound.org/s/233699/ -- License: Creative Commons 0

    56 min

  3. FEB 27

    superstars and stephen schwartz

    On this weeks episode of SOURCE NEEDED Abi + Liz + Notre Dame are on FIRE! Their articles this week are both about the Notre Dame fire back in 2019. Abi + Liz chat about how the professionals, politicians, and the public responded to the event through the lens of crisis management and acoustics. Can they find a commonality? Listen to find out! Check out more of SOURCE NEEDED!!! do it. do it now. Patreon: patreon.com/SOURCENEEDED Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/sourceneeded?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== BIBLIOGRAPHY [this bibliography is not formatted, but it’s not graded either so idgaf] Napoleon’s Coronation by Jacques-Louis David/ Georges Rouget - art database, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=546742 [Abi and Liz were talking about the same painting!] Mullins, Sarabeth, and Brian Katz. "The Past Has Ears at Notre-Dame Cathedral: An Interdisciplinary Project in Digital Archaeoacoustics." Acoustics Today, 2024. https://acousticstoday.org/the-past-has-ears-at-notre-dame-cathedral-an-interdisciplinary-project-in-digital-archaeoacoustics-sarabeth-s-mullins-and-brian-f-g-katz-2/ Gombault, Anne. “Notre-Dame Is Burning: Learning From the Crisis of a Superstar Religious Monument.” International Journal of Arts Management 22, no. 2 (2020): 83–95. https://www.jstor.org/stable/48584538. Liz Hébert, “S14E06: Musical Instruments” interview with Jonathan Santa Maria Bouquet, The C Word, 30 May, 2024, audio 51:59. https://open.spotify.com/episode/3f4XuVG45jJeaWzc48PHPy?si=j3craz5gQIynPGDIfVtuCg Handy, Kumaran. “Artstation - Bridging the Gap between Gaming and History: How Assassin’s Creed Unity Is Helping Rebuild Notre-Dame.” ArtStation, https://www.artstation.com/blogs/dioeye/1dYG/bridging-the-gap-between-gaming-and-history-how-assassins-creed-unity-is-helping-rebuild-notre-dame Lawson-Tancred, Jo. “The Stats behind Notre-Dame’s Remarkable Restoration.” Artnet News, 19 Dec. 2024, news.artnet.com/art-world/notre-dame-restoration-stats-2578291 CER: Cultural Emergency Response https://www.culturalemergency.org All images of the Notre Dame spire proposals and credits taken from this website: https://www.dezyncle.com/en/articles/5-design-proposals-to-reconstruct-the-notre-dame-cathedral-spire Video from Liz’s acoustics article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJvvkl3qrXM&t=2s Theme Song Credit Acid Jazz Loop - Music Bed by gulyas25 -- https://freesound.org/s/233699/ -- License: Creative Commons 0

    46 min

  4. FEB 18

    prologue

    Abi & Liz introduce themselves and lay the groundwork for what SOURCE NEEDED is about. There’s some background info on the girls, rants on what makes 17th-century Dutch artwork so special, how we view artwork (monetary value versus topography), and an explanation of the podcast title. Have 38 minutes to kill? Come hang with us. Check out more of SOURCE NEEDED!!! do it. do it now. Patreon: patreon.com/SOURCENEEDED Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/sourceneeded?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== BIBLIOGRAPHY [and notes] 1. {3:35} Liz Hébert, “Applying to the UvA,” interview with Mané van Veldhuizen, Terri Costello, etc., ECPodcast, 9 April, 2020, audio, 27:37. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6fWjsd1G8GNCaUjeSPxQbU?si=75ca05f2558f40ee [for a good introduction episode and to learn more about the grad program that Liz did at the University of Amsterdam] 2. {3:54} Liz Hébert, “S14E06: Musical Instruments” interview with Jonathan Santa Maria Bouquet, The C Word, 30 May, 2024, audio 51:59. https://open.spotify.com/episode/3f4XuVG45jJeaWzc48PHPy?si=j3craz5gQIynPGDIfVtuCg [the topic of this episode is a lil easter egg for one of the articles in our next episode...] 3. {4:56} CJ the X, “The Dialectics of Rick & Morty,” video essay by CJ the X, 24 January, 2022, video, 1:41:35. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm4dxUIRZso [high HIGH recommend!!! there’s a reason why it was the first thing we talked about, it is just that good. completely changed the game on how I watch community too] 4. {9:13} Rembrandt, “The Night Watch,” oil on canvas, 1642. https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/stories/operatie-nachtwacht/story/ultra-hoge-resolutie-foto [CLICK ON THIS LINK FOR A GREAT TIME!!!!!] 5. {9:24} “Operation Night Watch,” Rijksmuseum. https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/whats-on/exhibitions/operation-night-watch [find out more about all the awesome work the conservators over at the rijks museum are doing] 6. {17:04} Liz Hébert “The effect of wax-resin impregnation on the darkening of ground and small in The Night Watch” masters thesis. University of Amsterdam, 2021. 7. {19:57} Angela Vanhaelen, “Iconoclasm and the Creation of Images in Emanuel de Witte’s ‘Old Church in Amsterdam’” The Art Bulletin, Volume. 87, No. 2 (June, 2005), pp. 249-264. http://www.jstor.org/stable/25067171 8. {28:29} Maurizio Cattelan, “Comedian,” mixed media, 2019. [additional review] {8:10} James Acaster, “James Acaster on the absurdity of the British Empire,” stand up comedy clip from James Acaster Repertoire: Reset, Netflix, YouTube video, 3:42. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73PkUvArJY [to get some comedic insight into the British Museum’s stance on repatriation] Theme Song Credit Acid Jazz Loop - Music Bed by gulyas25 -- https://freesound.org/s/233699/ -- License: Creative Commons 0

    38 min
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In SOURCE NEEDED Abi and Liz discuss the cultural phenomena of the day - from painting conservation to film to poetry to the art market. Guilty of forming opinions on such topics without a source to back the claim, this podcast is an homage to those moments when our conversations precede research. (That said, we do our best to stick to the framework of a cultural ‘object’ per episode, and link the mentioned papers/tiktoks/memes/oddly specific wikipedia pages in the bibliomaniac caption). Intrigued? Subscribe to SOURCE NEEDED for weekly episodes and (unsubstantiated) extras. xoxo Abi + Liz

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    Abi Montalvo & Liz Hébert
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