The session begins with a discussion about a newly acquired drum kit that is twenty-one years old, a timeframe highlighted as a Fibonacci number and older than the host's children. Although the drum heads have been replaced, the original rims and shell remain sturdy. During the conversation, the hosts handle hardware pieces from a high hat stand, examining how the clamp holds its position, while also noting an extra cowbell that came with the set. This leads to memories of early drumming experiences, including a story about carrying a bass drum, snare, and tom on a thirty-minute bus ride while using kitchen chopsticks before obtaining actual drumsticks. One host points out a drumstick customized with a black coating by Alonzo Fisher in 2004 that has surprisingly survived twenty-two years of use. They contrast this current kit with an earlier, lower-quality drum set used by the band Flames of the Ice Age, which produced a noise akin to a trash can during garage sessions.Looking ahead, they outline plans to interview a film producer who worked on Transformers movies as well as the 2012 Wolverine film. One host hopes to ask him how an unestablished writer can get a script in front of key industry figures and whether joining a major movie writing team is worthwhile. Driven by a desire to improve the world after becoming a father, the producer wants to discuss flow states. The hosts connect this idea to their own musical jams, noting that true flow occurs when they stop overthinking, anticipate each other's movements, and execute smooth transitions.They also express surprise over their listener demographics, revealing that seventy percent of their overall audience is in Indonesia, and seventy percent of those Indonesian listeners are female. Nostalgia surfaces as they recall browsing in a Borders bookstore, debating whether to buy CDs by Smashing Pumpkins, Barenaked Ladies, or the City of Angels soundtrack, before choosing Smashing Pumpkins. They fondly mention their friend Mike Laws, who once memorized the entire song One Week in college and currently hosts a film review podcast named Clearing the Queue.The conversation turns to eerie topics as they explore the Backrooms urban legend and share unsettling personal encounters. One host describes getting lost late at night in a hotel basement full of laundry facilities following a Les Claypool concert in Cleveland, briefly stuck inside a buttonless utility elevator. The other host recounts a college memory from the College of Santa Fe, where he explored a vacant dorm floor and found a room containing only a poster of Jesus, a sleeping bag, and an unlocked wooden box filled with five thousand dollars in twenty-dollar bills. Finally, they reflect on past band dynamics, recalling how conflict arose in Flames of the Ice Age because their keyboardist refused to improvise. Despite past hurdles, the hosts express gratitude for their ongoing musical collaboration and podcast discussions as they prepare for their upcoming guest interview.
