Culture and Leadership in Education Podcast

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We're Dovetail & Slate, the education recruitment experts. In each episode of the Culture, EVP and Leadership in Education Podcast, our CEO, Guy Walker, hosts in-depth conversations with industry leaders and educators who share their firsthand experiences and insights. Tune in for practical advice, inspiring stories and the latest trends in education.

  1. Mar 12

    How to Lead a College to Ofsted Outstanding with John Evans

    What does it take to go from an apprentice motor mechanic to leading some of the largest colleges in the UK? In this episode of The Culture & Leadership Podcast, host Guy Walker sits down with John Evans, a veteran of the Further Education sector who has successfully navigated five separate college journeys to an "Outstanding" Ofsted rating.John shares his unique philosophy on education, viewing the student as the customer and teaching, learning, and assessment (TLA) as the core product. He pulls back the curtain on how he transformed struggling institutions - tackling millions in debt and broken staff cultures - by winning hearts and minds through relentless, visible leadership.Key topics include:- The "Apprentice to Principal" Journey: Why vocational experts make some of the best leaders in FE.- Transforming "Inadequate" to "Outstanding": The practical steps to shifting culture and accountability across multiple campuses.- The Jim Collins Connection: How the "Good to Great" philosophy applies to college leadership (and the time John cold-emailed Jim Collins).- Recruiting Trade Experts: Innovative strategies to bring industry professionals into the classroom.- Leading Without Ego: Why the best CEOs aren't afraid to help set out chairs or pick up litter.Whether you’re a middle manager looking to become an "agent of change" or a CEO navigating the "loneliest job in the world," John’s insights offer a masterclass in passionate, values-driven leadership.00:00 Intro00:01:30 From car mechanic to college principal: John’s career journey00:04:00 The "Student as Customer" philosophy00:08:45 Why middle managers are the true agents of change00:11:30 Turning around struggling colleges: Swindon and Cornwall cases00:18:00 The "Good to Great" influence and a surprise from Jim Collins00:24:00 How culture shows up in the "pub" and the reception desk00:37:30 Putting TLA (Teaching, Learning, and Assessment) at the heart of culture00:45:00 The "standard you walk past is the standard you accept"00:55:40 Advice for future FE leaders: Moral compass vs. Ego01:04:20 Innovative recruitment: Getting tradespeople into teachingdovetailslate.co.uk#FEleadership #FurtherEducation #CollegeCulture #TeachingAndLearning #Apprenticeships #EducationLeadership #JohnEvans #GuyWalker #OfstedOutstanding

    1h 11m
  2. Bold Leadership in Further Education: Julia Gray on Transforming City of Bristol College

    Feb 5

    Bold Leadership in Further Education: Julia Gray on Transforming City of Bristol College

    What does it take to transform a college that's struggled for years into a top 20% performer? And how do you build a culture where staff and students genuinely feel they're the most important people in the room?In this episode of The Culture & Leadership Podcast, host Guy Walker returns to his hometown of Bristol to sit down with Julia Gray, Principal & CEO of City of Bristol College. Julia shares her unconventional journey from equine sport science to land-based education, through to leading one of Bristol's most vital institutions through rapid transformation.Julia doesn't hold back about the challenges, starting her CEO role on January 1st and getting an Ofsted call just five working days later. She talks candidly about inherited culture fractures from multiple mergers, staff fatigue from constant change, and the work required to make people proud of where they work again.But this is a story of bold transformation. Julia explains how Bristol College moved from the bottom of national league tables to the top 20%, how they achieved 99% appraisal completion (from chaos), and why their values just happen to spell B.R.I.S.T.O.L.Key topics include:- Why FE is like a "homemade speedboat" (and why that's exciting, not scary)- Building BRISTOL values: Boldness, Respect, Inclusion, Sustainability, Teamwork, Openness, Learning- The power of telling students "you are important" (not special—important)- Transforming appraisal from a dreaded tick-box to 99% completion and genuine engagement- Community Campus Leads: the role that changed everything across four campuses- Why you can't just promote brilliant teachers into leadership without training- Servant-based leadership: removing barriers so people can do their jobs brilliantly- The truth about FE funding and why pay is the one thing every principal would change- Finding your authenticity as a leader (even if you started as "a pretender in the horsey world")- Why place matters more than timeline when choosing your next leadership roleWhether you're an aspiring leader wondering how to progress, a principal navigating multi-site complexity, or anyone who believes young people deserve better than "they're just lazy"—this conversation is for you.00:00 Intro00:03:45 Julia's journey: from equine sport science to FE leadership00:08:20 What keeps Julia in FE after 22 years00:12:30 The "speedboat vs cruise ship" analogy for FE00:16:50 Challenging misconceptions about FE students and ambition00:20:05 The proudest moment: national league tables and what it meant00:24:15 How BRISTOL values came to be (and that happy accident)00:28:45 Making values stick through behaviours, not just words00:32:29 Managing culture across four campuses with different personalities00:36:39 "You are important, not special": what students need to know00:42:33 Appraisal transformation: from chaos to 99% completion00:48:19 Servant-based leadership and building autonomy00:52:18 Management Academy: training aspiring leaders properly00:56:43 Role models: Rachel Hannigan, authenticity, and finding your path00:59:05 Advice for future principals: skills over timeline, and why place matters01:05:09 Recommended books: Michael Porter and getting to root causesdovetailslate.co.uk#educationleadership #collegeculture #furthereducation #bristolcollege #staffwellbeing #studentoutcomes #teacherdevelopment #eduleadership #culturechange #leadershippodcast #appraisals #servantleadership #multiplecampuses #authenticleadership

    1h 8m
  3. From Army Officer to FE Commissioner: Shelagh Legrave on Building Outstanding College Culture

    Jan 28

    From Army Officer to FE Commissioner: Shelagh Legrave on Building Outstanding College Culture

    What does it take to transform a college from 'requires improvement' to outstanding—not once, but twice? And how do you sustain that culture of excellence across an entire sector?In this episode of The Culture & Leadership Podcast, host Guy Walker sits down with Shelagh Legrave, the FE Commissioner, at Chichester College Group - where Shelagh spent nearly 20 years, including 12 as Principal.Shelagh shares her remarkable journey from army officer to investment banking, then into education finance, before becoming one of the sector's most respected leaders. Now overseeing 200+ FE colleges, she brings hard-won insights on what makes culture stick, why middle leadership matters more than we think, and how personalisation, meeting people where they are, drives real outcomes.Key topics include:- Why culture pervades everything and can't be separated from strategy- The "serve to lead" leadership model that shaped her approach- How to develop middle managers beyond just promoting good teachers- Moving from autocratic to empathetic, democratic leadership- Balancing financial pressures with outstanding student experience- The crucial role of onboarding, mentoring and professional development- Why place matters, and why no two college cultures are exactly the same- Recruitment, retention and selling the FE sector properly- Embracing change, technology and the next generation of leadersWhether you're an educator, college leader, aspiring principal, or passionate about how culture shapes student success, this episode is packed with practical wisdom, honest reflections and inspiration from someone who's lived it at every level.00:00 Intro00:03:45 Sheila's varied career journey: army, banking, finance to FE leadership00:08:20 The shift from CFO to Principal at Chichester College00:12:30 Becoming FE Commissioner and supporting colleges sector-wide00:18:15 Why culture is essential for outstanding student experience00:22:40 The challenge and importance of developing middle leaders00:28:45 Meeting students where they are: personalization as a core value00:32:10 How culture adapts to constant change in FE00:38:50 Changing college culture: vision, mission, values and lived behaviours00:45:30 Leadership competencies and learning from Good to Great00:52:20 Recruitment, retention and making staff feel valued00:58:15 Advice for aspiring FE leaders: ambition with humility01:02:50 Looking ahead: technology, adaptability and the future of FE leadershipdovetailslate.co.uk#educationleadership #collegeculture #furthereducation #fecommissioner #staffwellbeing #studentoutcomes #teacherdevelopment #eduleadership #learninganddevelopment #cultureineducation #leadershippodcast #middlemanagement #recruitmentandretention

    1h 7m
  4. Building a College Culture That Works | Lisa Capper MBE on Leading with Care

    11/13/2025

    Building a College Culture That Works | Lisa Capper MBE on Leading with Care

    What does it take to build a college culture where people belong, grow and lead with care? In this episode of The Culture & Leadership Podcast, host Guy Walker chats with Lisa Capper MBE, Principal & CEO of the Sandwell Collegse Group. Lisa shares her journey from adult education and government policy to leading one of the UK’s most diverse and ambitious colleges. She talks about creating the “One Team” culture, embedding the CARE values, and why wellbeing and empowerment are central to success. Key topics include: Balancing big-picture strategies with hands-on action to make real change Building a “One Team” culture that unites staff and campuses  Why values-driven leadership empowers both staff and students Creating inspiring learning environments that keep students motivated and thriving Adapting Further Education to meet changing demands for young people and adults Whether you’re an educator, college leader, or interested in how education can shape communities, this episode is packed with practical strategies, inspiring stories and insights from the heart of the Sandwell Colleges. 00:00 Intro 00:03:45 Lisa’s career journey and leadership philosophy 00:08:20 Building a “One Team” culture and strategic plan 00:14:10 Embedding CARE values in staff and students 00:19:35 Staff wellbeing, mentorship, and professional development 00:25:50 Innovation in learning environments and student retention 00:31:15 Preparing for demographic changes and adult learning 00:36:40 Leadership lessons and advice for future FE leaders dovetailslate.co.uk #educationleadership #collegeculture #furthereducation #staffwellbeing #studentoutcomes #teacherdevelopment #eduleadership #learninganddevelopment #cultureineducation #leadershippodcast

    1h 22m
  5. From Illustrator to Principal: Mark Bolton’s 30-Year Journey in Education

    10/20/2025

    From Illustrator to Principal: Mark Bolton’s 30-Year Journey in Education

    What does it take to lead a college that truly serves its community? In this episode of the Culture & Leadership in Education Podcast, Guy Walker talks with Mark Bolton, Principal of Yeovil College, about how values-driven leadership, strategic vision and a focus on local businesses create meaningful outcomes for students, staff and the wider region. Mark shares how he builds a culture where learners leave better than they arrived, staff are empowered, and local businesses thrive. Key topics include: - How values-driven leadership motivates staff to go the extra mile - Embedding mission, vision, and strategic goals into everyday practice - Supporting high-value, forward-thinking industries through skills and apprenticeships - Creating a culture of recognition, engagement, and continuous improvement - Personal development, mentoring, and lifelong learning as the foundation for leadership Whether you’re an educator, college leader or interested in building meaningful community impact, this episode is packed with insights, practical strategies and inspiring stories from the heart of Yeovil College. dovetailslate.co.uk #educationleadership #leadingwithkindness #collegeculture #furthereducation #eduleadership #studentoutcomes #teacherdevelopment #learninganddevelopment #edutech #aiineducation #staffwellbeing #leadershippodcast #cultureineducation

    50 min
  6. Inside Chichester College Group | Andrew Green on Leading with Kindness & Transforming Education

    10/14/2025

    Inside Chichester College Group | Andrew Green on Leading with Kindness & Transforming Education

    What really drives success in education? In the first episode of season two of the Culture & Leadership in Education Podcast, Guy Walker, CEO of Dovetail & Slate, sits down with Andrew Green, Chief Executive of Chichester College Group, to reveal the leadership philosophies and culture strategies that are truly changing lives. From turning disengaged students into confident achievers to creating a workplace where staff thrive, Andrew shares the secrets behind Chichester College Group’s extraordinary impact on 25,000 learners across seven colleges. He dives into: - How kindness, trust and empowerment shape culture and boost performance - Balancing leadership visibility, staff motivation and personal wellbeing - Leveraging AI to save time while keeping teachers at the heart of learning Whether you’re an educator, leader or just curious about what makes high-performing organisations tick, this episode is packed with insights, practical strategies and inspiring stories that prove leadership is about people first. dovetailslate.co.uk #educationleadership #leadingwithkindness #collegeculture #furthereducation #eduleadership #studentoutcomes #teacherdevelopment #learninganddevelopment #edutech #aiineducation #staffwellbeing #leadershippodcast #cultureineducation

    54 min
  7. Culture, EVP & Leadership in Education | Grant Glendinning, CEO & Principal of Education Training Collective

    07/21/2025

    Culture, EVP & Leadership in Education | Grant Glendinning, CEO & Principal of Education Training Collective

    In the latest episode of the Culture, EVP & Leadership podcast, Grant Glendenning, CEO of the Education Training Collective (ETC), shares his 25-year journey in Further Education, the importance of a values-driven culture, and how ETC is shaping the future of skills and social mobility in the North East.What to expect in this episode:- Grant’s career path from ESOL lecturer to CEO and his leadership philosophy.- How ETC’s unique “Tone of Voice” culture drives belonging, consistency, and impact across six colleges.- The challenges and opportunities of leading in a sector undergoing rapid change, including AI integration.- The strategic vision behind ETC’s outstanding Ofsted rating and ongoing commitment to local communities.Grant’s advice for aspiring FE leaders: embrace responsibility, stay grounded and lead with purpose.A must-listen for anyone passionate about education, leadership and community impact!dovetailslate.co.uk#Leadership #Education #Culture #EVP #FurtherEducation #TSCG #Podcast #ValuesDrivenLeadership #CommunityImpact #PeopleFirst #FEsector #EmployeeEngagement

    1h 23m
  8. Culture, EVP & Leadership in Education | Rachel Nicholls, CEO of Inspire Education Group

    07/10/2025

    Culture, EVP & Leadership in Education | Rachel Nicholls, CEO of Inspire Education Group

    In this episode, we’re joined by Rachel Nicholls, CEO of Inspire Education Group - a passionate, purpose-driven leader with deep roots in Further Education.From the power of teamwork to the challenge of leading through change, Rachel shares candid insights into what it really takes to lead well in FE today.We cover:- Why teamwork is more than collaboration — it’s empowerment- The FE leaders who shaped her career and values- How AI is being used innovatively in governance and education- The challenge of growth, funding, and managing constant change- Why humility and connection are at the heart of impactful leadershipHer advice to future FE leaders: stay grounded, stay hungryPlus: the books that inspire her, the podcasts she loves, and what she’s doing to keep learning at the top of her game.Whether you’re in education, leadership or just curious about the real world of FE, this is a masterclass in people-first leadership.👇 Like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes.www.dovetailslate.co.uk#FurtherEducation #Leadership #Culture #EVP #AIInFE #FEVoices #PurposeDrivenLeadership

    1h 13m
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We're Dovetail & Slate, the education recruitment experts. In each episode of the Culture, EVP and Leadership in Education Podcast, our CEO, Guy Walker, hosts in-depth conversations with industry leaders and educators who share their firsthand experiences and insights. Tune in for practical advice, inspiring stories and the latest trends in education.

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