NYKids Deep Dive

NYKids

Hello and welcome to the NY Kids Deep Dive podcast where we engage in our principles to Inform, Inspire, and Improve New York State Schools through conversation with educators, leaders, researchers, and advocates for high-quality education from across the state. We invite you to join us in an exploration of practices, policies, and research so you can be part of making the changes you want to see in our educational system.

  1. 2d ago

    From 1784 to Today: How the NYS Board of Regents Is Shaping the Future of Education

    The latest episode of NYKids Deep Dive features Regent Roger Catania, a lifelong educator whose career has spanned teaching, school counseling, and district leadership in New York's North Country. In this conversation, Regent Catania offers an inside look at the New York State Board of Regents—one of the state's most influential, yet often misunderstood, institutions. Established in 1784, the New York State Board of Regents is one of the oldest educational governing bodies in the nation, predating the U.S. Constitution. Early members included Alexander Hamilton and John Jay, reflecting the Regents' longstanding role in shaping education and public life. Today, the Board's responsibilities extend far beyond Regents exams. It oversees P–12 and higher education, cultural institutions such as libraries and museums, professional licensing across more than 50 fields, and adult education. As Regent Catania explains, the Regents serve as an independent policy body that helps guide education and professional standards across New York State. One of the Regents' most significant initiatives is reimagining high school graduation requirements. Rather than centering student success solely on standardized testing, the Board is advancing the Portrait of a Graduate framework, which emphasizes critical thinking, communication, creativity, global citizenship, and readiness for college, careers, and civic life. Regent Catania notes that this vision is intended to influence teaching and learning across the entire P–12 system. While many educators welcome the shift, successful implementation will require thoughtful professional learning and support to ensure all students have opportunities to develop and demonstrate these competencies. Beyond statewide policy, Regent Catania highlighted local efforts to address educational inequities. About a decade ago, he helped establish Lake Placid's Educational Opportunity Fund (Ed Fund) to expand access to enriching academic and cultural experiences for students who might otherwise lack those opportunities. The nonprofit partners with the school district to provide experiences that build students' knowledge, social capital, and future aspirations. Although created to meet local needs, the Ed Fund offers a model other communities can adapt to help close opportunity gaps through strong school-community partnerships. This episode explores how history, policy, and local innovation intersect to shape the future of education in New York. We invite you to listen and reflect on questions such as: What should a meaningful high school diploma represent today? How can schools successfully implement the Portrait of a Graduate? What can communities learn from initiatives like the Ed Fund to expand opportunity for all students? 🎧 Listen to the full episode, and be sure to like, subscribe, and share your thoughts by contacting ⁠nykids@albany.edu⁠. We'd love to hear how these ideas connect to your work and how we can support Portrait of a Graduate implementation in your school or district.

    33 min
  2. Feb 10

    How Continuous Improvement Tools Can Transform P-20 Partnerships: w/ Dr. Matt Missias and Dr. Kristen Wilcox

    How Continuous Improvement Tools Can Transform P-20 Partnerships  with Dr. Matt Missias and Dr. Kristen Wilcox What if the secret to addressing complex problems across the P-12 and higher education pipeline lies in deeper understanding of 1) human experiences and 2) interconnected systems that shape what resources are available and drawn upon.  In our latest podcast episode, Dr. Kristen C. Wilcox from the University at Albany and NYKids Director sits down with Dr. Matthew T. Missias from Grand Valley State University explores how continuous improvement protocols and processes can support collaborations, which in turn can affect improvements in access and equity across P-20.  The Challenge  Educational partnerships across the P-20 pipeline—from preschool through graduate education—face persistent challenges. Whether you're working in charter schools, traditional public schools, or higher education institutions, you've likely encountered challenges that seem resistant to siloed problem-solving approaches. The disconnect often lies in our inability to see both the forest and the trees: the individual human experiences within the larger systems we navigate daily.  Collaborative Approaches to Problem Understanding and Solution Co-designing  This blog announces a new podcast with our guest Dr. Matt Missias and NYKids Director Dr. Kristen Wilcox. They highlight two powerful continuous improvement tools they workshopped at the University Council for Educational Administration (UCEA) annual convention that are supporting how educators approach collaborative continuous improvement: empathy mapping and ecosystem mapping. These are practical protocols grounded in improvement science principles that help P-12 and higher education partners move from superficial to deep understandings of what is and isn’t working for whom and under what conditions.  The podcast focuses in on Ecosystem mapping that Dr. Missias explains reveals the complex web of people, organizations, ideas, and contexts that influence educational problems. By visualizing these interconnections, partners can identify leverage points they might have otherwise missed. Who are the unexpected allies? What systems intersect with the improvement work? Where do opportunities for collective impact exist?  Key Insights  Dr. Missias shares his framework for collaboration with P-12 partners—COVET—Communication, Openness, Vulnerability, Experience, and Trust—as essential elements for successful partnerships. This isn't soft skills work; it's the foundation that allows collaboration improvement to flourish in real-world settings.  Dr. Wilcox emphasizes the importance of anchoring partnership work in improvement science principles: being problem-focused and user-centered, integrating research into strategic planning, and deliberately inviting diverse professionals into continuous improvement teams. Her work with NYKids COMPASS process demonstrates how these principles translate into sustained, evidence-based support for school improvement.  Join the Conversation  Whether you're a school leader, researcher, professional development specialist, policy maker, or community organization member, this episode offers practical tools you can implement immediately.   See the workshop slide deck on the NYKids website and reach out to nykids@albany.edu if you would like to learn how to facilitate empathy mapping sessions, create your own ecosystem maps, and build the kind of trust-based and mutually-beneficial partnerships that actually move the needle toward your goals.

    32 min
  3. Jan 10

    Year End Retrospective - Part 1

    We are excited to release our very first Deep Dive highlight reel! In this 2-part retrospective series, we are sharing clips from episodes we have released in the past year. We hope you gain new insights and find guests you have not heard from before. In this episode, we feature clips from (in order of appearance): 3:11 - Jason Ryan and Aaron Leo In this episode, NYKids Assistant Director Aaron Leo chats with Principal Ryan about all things Artificial Intelligence (AI) and catches up on the latest news at LaFayette. 7:55 - Dr. Deb Schussler and Jessie Tobin In our second episode, NYKids Research Assistants Jessie Tobin and Paul Guay talk with professor Deborah in the Department of Educational Policy and Leadership at the University of Albany, SUNY about mindfulness and how it’s application can improve the well-being of teachers and students. 16:28 - Dave Little and Aaron Leo NYKids Assistant Director, Aaron Leo, talks with Dave Little from the Rural Schools Association. The conversation covers all things rural including the unique challenges facing rural schools, new policies and programs aimed at improving the educational experiences of rural students, and the important work being done at the RSA. 26:25 - Allison Armour-Garb, Nicole Lennon, and Kristen Wilcox In this podcast, NYKids Director Kristen C. Wilcox and Assistant Director Aaron Leo welcomed members of New York State Education Department Allison Armour-Garb and Nicole Lennon. Armour-Garb and Lennon both serve as leaders for NYSED's Performance-Based Learning and Assessment Networks (or PLAN) Pilot program. 32:07 - Bob Schneider and Kristen Wilcox NYKids Graduate Assistant Paul Guay and NYKids Director Kristen C. Wilcox hosted Bob Schneider, Executive Director of the New York State School Boards Association (NYSSBA). NYSSBA is one of NYKids' valued Advisory Board organizations, and Bob provided insights into what NYSSBA is focusing its attention on right now. You can keep up with NYKids’ latest research and school improvement work by visiting our ⁠website⁠ and following us on ⁠Facebook⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠, and ⁠LinkedIn⁠.   As always, we welcome your comments or questions at ⁠nykids@albany.edu⁠.

    38 min
  4. 12/15/2025

    Amplifying Youth Voice and Identity through Action Research: A Conversation with Dr. Jenay F. E. Willis

    This latest blog shares highlights from our Deep Dive podcast episode with Dr. Jenay F. E. Willis from the University of Mississippi!  Dr. Willis is a researcher and scholar practitioner who draws from her own experiences as a Black woman from the Deep South. Her work applies critical lenses to explore the lived experiences of rural Black students and communities as they navigate college access, success, transition, matriculation, and graduation. Dr. Willis utilizes what she refers to as community-driven and shared power approaches to center individual’s identities in her practice.   In this episode, we take a deep dive into how these strategies can be engaged and discuss the learning opportunities involved in community-driven and youth-led research.     Our conversation covers issues including:   Dr. Willis’ background and what has driven her work today: from going to school in the rural South to teaching in an Urban district in the Northeast.    Research on youths’ experiences, in particular, with attention to the experiences of rural, Black students and communities.   Breaking down youth-led participatory action research (YPAR), which is a method that centers young people as the experts and applies their inquires to promote change in their communities. Dr. Willis shares her current projects with YPAR, including a research method called photovoice.   The meaning behind community-based research and how it supports Dr. Willis’ scholarship.     The opportunities and obstacles researchers face when it comes to implementing community-based research and highlighting youth voices.  Listen to our podcast on Spotify or Apple Podcasts and be sure to like, subscribe, and leave us reviews. Thank you for your support of NYKids as we continue our mission to inform, inspire, and improve across New York State!

    33 min
  5. 11/07/2025

    Teacher Retention, School Discipline, K-12 School Finance Oh My! A New Podcast with Dr. Lucy Sorensen

    Understanding the Complex Challenges Facing Today's Schools  Education policy faces unprecedented challenges. Teacher shortages plague districts nationwide, and school discipline policies spark heated debates. Meanwhile, funding formulas struggle to address the comprehensive needs of students and educators alike in communities facing different types of challenges.  Dr. Lucy Sorensen joins our latest podcast to unpack these interconnected issues. Her research uses sophisticated analytical methods to examine critical questions in K-12 education policy and social inequality. Currently serving as Associate Editor of Educational Evaluation and Policy Analysis, Dr. Sorensen brings unique expertise to understanding how public school systems interact with criminal justice, environmental, and health systems.  The Hidden Costs of Teacher Turnover  Teacher turnover extends far beyond the obvious disruption of classroom instruction. Dr. Sorensen's groundbreaking 2020 research reveals "hidden costs" that ripple through entire school communities. When experienced teachers leave, schools often fill positions with less qualified replacements.  The data tells a sobering story. Schools experiencing teacher turnover see increased shares of teachers with limited experience, provisional licenses, or lateral entry credentials. These replacement teachers frequently lack certification in their assigned subjects and may score lower on licensure tests.  But the impact doesn't stop there. High-poverty schools and those geographically isolated from teacher preparation programs face even greater challenges. The effects compound over time because less qualified teachers tend to leave at higher rates, creating a cycle of instability.  Mental Health and Well-Being: The Foundation of Learning  The pandemic highlighted something education leaders have long suspected: student and teacher mental health directly impacts academic success. Dr. Sorensen emphasizes that schools need more than traditional resources like "teachers and books." Comprehensive services addressing mental health and well-being must become integral to school operations and as NYKids researchers also found – mut be adjusted to the specific needs in different communities.  This shift requires rethinking how we support both students and educators. Teachers experiencing chronic stress and burnout cannot effectively serve students who may be struggling with their own mental health challenges. Schools that prioritize comprehensive well-being supports see benefits across multiple outcomes.  The Complex Reality of School Resource Officers  School safety remains a top priority, but Dr. Sorensen's 2023 research on school resource officers (SROs) reveals complicated outcomes. While SROs do reduce certain types of school violence, including physical attacks without weapons, they also increase disciplinary consequences significantly.  The expansion of SRO presence leads to more   out-of-school suspensions,   expulsions,   police referrals, and   arrests.   Perhaps most concerning, these increased punishments disproportionately affect Black students, male students, and students with disabilities. This research challenges schools to carefully consider whether increased police presence truly serves all students equitably.  Building Resilient Schools for the Future  So what's the path forward? Dr. Sorensen advocates for "resiliency in schools" – a comprehensive approach that addresses multiple interconnected challenges simultaneously. Post-pandemic recovery, shifting federal funding priorities, and ongoing teacher pipeline issues require coordinated responses from policymakers and educational leaders.  The conversation with Dr. Sorensen reminds us that education policy requires nuanced understanding and evidence-based solutions. Simple answers rarely address complex problems effectively. But through rigorous research and thoughtful implementation, we can build schools that truly serve all students well.

    31 min
  6. 10/20/2025

    Tracking Developments in the Superintendency with Dr. Chuck Dedrick: Executive Director of the New York State Council of School Superintendents

    We are delighted to announce a new podcast with Dr. Charles S. Dedrick, one of NYKids’ valued advisory board members. Dr. Dedrick has served as Executive Director of the New York State Council of School Superintendents since July 2016, now in his ninth year leading the professional and advocacy organization that serves over 1,000 educational leaders statewide. Prior to this role, Dedrick brought extensive field experience as District Superintendent of Capital Region BOCES and Superintendent of Schools at both Cohoes City School District and Green Island Union Free School District, beginning his career as a Social Studies teacher.  His educational credentials include a B.A. in Political Science, dual Master's degrees in Literacy and Educational Administration from UAlbany, and a doctorate in Educational Leadership from Russell Sage College. Dedrick has served on the American Association of School Administrators' Governing Board and Executive Committee, representing New York and New England states.   Key Take-aways  The superintendent profession faces unprecedented challenges, with NYSCOSS data showing an  expected retirement rate of 45% in the next 4-5 years for New York's school superintendents. This instability threatens district continuity and student outcomes, particularly in rural and high-need communities where leadership transitions can be especially disruptive.  While progress has been made in gender representation, with slight increases in female superintendents, significant barriers remain. Women entering superintendent roles tend to do so later in their careers, potentially limiting their long-term impact and succession planning opportunities. More concerning is the persistent lack of racial and ethnic diversity, with over 90% of superintendents identifying as white despite New York's increasingly diverse student population.  Policy challenges continue to mount as superintendents navigate competing federal and state priorities. The Trump administration's voucher program, offering tax credits for private school donations, creates new competitive pressures for public districts already struggling with funding constraints. Simultaneously, proposed Medicaid cuts threaten essential health services that many schools provide to vulnerable students and families.  However, opportunities exist for positive change. The Portrait of a Graduate framework offers a shared vision for student success that transcends political divisions, focusing on universally valued skills and competencies. NYSCOSS's advocacy efforts on educator retirement waivers and rural telehealth demonstrate how professional organizations can address practical challenges facing districts statewide.  Moving forward, addressing the superintendent crisis requires sustained attention to leadership development, mentorship programs, and creating pathways for diverse candidates to enter and succeed in these critical roles. The success of New York's students depends largely on the stability and effectiveness of district leadership, making these challenges among the most urgent facing public education today.

    31 min

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Hello and welcome to the NY Kids Deep Dive podcast where we engage in our principles to Inform, Inspire, and Improve New York State Schools through conversation with educators, leaders, researchers, and advocates for high-quality education from across the state. We invite you to join us in an exploration of practices, policies, and research so you can be part of making the changes you want to see in our educational system.