She Leads Because She Can

Sue Aspinall and Caz Jude

We believe that there is a need to provide support for female school leaders, who want to thrive and grow within international school settings.  In this series of fortnightly podcasts, we share our own lived experiences and the hard-hitting realities which have shaped us as successful leaders within the sector.  Each podcast forms a topical conversation which is experienced-based; sharing truths, sound council and suggested solutions. We aim to be a source of courage, confidence and practical solutions to keep others ' leading because they can'.

  1. 11h ago

    #37 Coaching, Confidence and Courage to Take the Next Step

    Send us Fan Mail This week on the podcast, I am joined by Julie Keyes, founder of The Educational Coach. Julie is originally a secondary school teacher and former deputy head who took the courageous step of setting up her own business in the UK. In 2024, she took another courageous step and moved her business to Dubai. In this podcast, Julie talks openly and honestly about the challenges she has faced when things do not quite go according to plan, as well as the enriching experiences she has had along the way. Julie shares how determination is key. She believes that confidence is 'built on receipts'  as  past experiences can remind us that we can do it. When she arrived in Dubai, she put that determination to the test by visiting thirty schools in thirty days. No mean feat! Her belief in what she can offer, combined with her determination to support schools, has certainly paid off. Julie talks about the power of coaching to support us in the choices we make, and the importance of giving ourselves protected time to think things through and move forward, no matter how small the step. She also reflects on the value of writing down or voice noting our thoughts and ideas, so that we can see patterns and have a better understanding of what is going on and what we need to do. Julie shares her top tips with us, including: ·       Write down your goals as though you have already achieved them.  ·       Focus on your strengths. ·       Make use of your network and build deep connections with people throughout the world. We hope this conversation benefits you and that you enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed recording it. If you would like to join me on the podcast, please let me know via social media.  Julie also ponders the question: Do men second-guess themselves as much as women?

  2. Jun 11

    #32 Beyond Headship; entrepreneurship, encouragement and backing yourself with Rachael Wilding

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Rachael Wilding, an experienced international school leader who has made the bold transition from working within school communities to forging her own path as an entrepreneur. In her most recent role as Director of Edsidera — a global extra-curricular awards company — Rachael is channelling her passion for education into something with worldwide reach and impact. Rachael speaks candidly about what entrepreneurship really demands: self-motivation, grit, and the determination to keep going, even when the road gets tough. She emphasises the importance of building a strong support network and talks about the belief in herself that has been central to her journey. Her message to listeners is refreshingly direct — go for it. Drawing on Joanna Povall's recently published book Kind Leadership, Rachael explores the many parallels she sees between its ideas and her own philosophy on leading schools and organisations. She believes the CHASE principles outlined in the book — modelled and actively taught — are essential for creating healthy environments where both students and adults can truly thrive. Rachael closes the episode with three pieces of advice: Build your network — the right people around you make all the difference.Don't be afraid to talk about your struggles and failures — honesty and vulnerability are strengths, not weaknesses.Enjoy the journey — say yes more, and back yourself.

  3. May 30

    #31 Wellbeing as an innovator of standards with Mary Rose Connolly

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Mary Rose Connolly, founder and consultant at POSA Consulting, to explore her unique approach to school leadership and pastoral care. Mary describes her work as a “travelling pastoral system” — bringing tailored support, belief, and structure directly into schools. Her philosophy centres on one core conviction: that the right support for students and staff is not a luxury, but the very engine of school success. Wellbeing as a Driver of Standards Mary challenges the idea that wellbeing and high standards are in tension. For her, wellbeing is a driver of standards — it flourishes when an organisation knows its values, understands why it holds them, and can clearly articulate how those values translate into success. Crucially, she pushes back against vague wellbeing initiatives, arguing that lasting change requires clear, measurable outcomes. Without them, even well-intentioned efforts fade away. Kind Leadership: Leading with Heart and Head A central theme of the conversation is Mary’s advocacy for Kind Leadership — a philosophy of leading with your heart whilst holding yourself to account with your head. Far from being a soft option, she sees kindness as a genuine strength: something that can be woven into every interaction and every moment in the workplace and in life. Kind Leadership, in her view, is entirely compatible with being fiercely relentless in driving excellence — the two are not opposites, but partners. Three Guiding Principles Mary leaves listeners with three principles to carry into their schools and lives: •       Look out for each other — build a culture of genuine care and collective responsibility. •       Listen to each other — real listening is an act of leadership in itself. •       If you can’t change something, change how you see it — a quiet but powerful reminder that perspective is always within our control.

  4. May 15

    #30 CHASE-ing Kind Leadership with Joanna Povall

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Joanna Povall, author of the newly published book Kind Leadership, to explore what it truly means to lead with empathy, honesty, and impact. Far from being a sign of weakness, Joanna makes a compelling case that kind leadership is in fact the most human — and most effective — way to lead within any organisation. Joanna opens by sharing the core questions she found herself returning to again and again in her work with leaders: How do we communicate with compassion under pressure? How do we lead with empathy while still upholding high standards? And how do we hold people accountable without damaging their self-esteem? These questions became the foundation for her approach to kind leadership. At the heart of the conversation is the CHASE framework — a practical guide that keeps leaders honest with themselves and others. Joanna breaks it down: Communication with kindness forms the foundation, Honesty provides the structure, and Accountability is the glue that holds it all together. Self-esteem is the fourth pillar, and Joanna speaks powerfully about why nurturing it in schools is so important — arguing that when self-esteem is strengthened, cultures are created where emotional honesty feels safe and joy can flourish. She speaks candidly about the damage that shame can cause to growth and development, and urges us to eliminate it from our schools entirely. The final element of the CHASE framework is Ego. Joanna shares her own honest experiences of managing her ego in leadership, describing it as an ongoing practice — one she believes all leaders should be actively and continuously working on. Joanna also offers a helpful overview of key research in the field before turning to what she is most passionate about: the practical application of kind leadership within schools, which forms the heart of her book. This is a conversation that is honest, grounded, and deeply practical. Whether you are a school leader, a teacher, or anyone who leads people, Joanna offers real and actionable ways to bring kindness into every interaction, decision, and moment of presence.

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We believe that there is a need to provide support for female school leaders, who want to thrive and grow within international school settings.  In this series of fortnightly podcasts, we share our own lived experiences and the hard-hitting realities which have shaped us as successful leaders within the sector.  Each podcast forms a topical conversation which is experienced-based; sharing truths, sound council and suggested solutions. We aim to be a source of courage, confidence and practical solutions to keep others ' leading because they can'.

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