The Targeted Violence Podcast

The Targeted Violence Podcast

The Targeted Violence Podcast explores the psychology, motivations, and behaviours behind acts of targeted violence. Hosted by Forensic Psychologist Dr Nathan Brooks, this podcast brings together experts from law enforcement, forensic psychiatry, psychology, and threat assessment to share their firsthand experiences investigating and assessing perpetrators of mass violence, lone actor attacks, stalking, and other targeted offences. Through in-depth discussions and real case analyses, the podcast provides insights into the minds of those who commit these acts.

Episodes

  1. FEB 15

    Chasing Terrorists - The Targeted Violence Podcast - Episode 12 with Steven Keogh

    In Part Two of our conversation on The Targeted Violence Podcast, I’m again joined by Steven Keogh, former Scotland Yard homicide detective, as we shift from murder investigation into his work in counter-terrorism in the years following September 11, 2001.Before moving into homicide full-time, Steven spent several years working in counter-terrorism during a period of significant operational intensity in the UK. We begin by exploring what drew him into this field and how the threat landscape in Britain changed in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. We discuss how investigative priorities evolved, the rise of group-based extremist networks in the early 2000s, and the complexity of managing coordinated plots.A major focus of this episode is Steven’s involvement in several significant terrorism investigations, including a foiled plot by an Al-Qaeda–linked cell planning large-scale attacks in London. We unpack the scale and ambition of these plans — from proposals to target the underground system to the use of vehicles and gas canisters.We also examine the ricin plot led by Kamel Bourgass, and the tragic killing of Detective Stephen Oake during Bourgass’s arrest. Steven reflects on the operational realities of these cases and the risks faced by officers working in this space. The conversation then turns to the July 7, 2005 London bombings, and the chaos, uncertainty, and intensity of responding to a mass-casualty terrorist attack.From there, we step back to consider how terrorism has evolved — from structured, group-based networks to increasingly self-initiated lone actors — and what this shift means for modern investigations and threat assessment.The second half of this episode focuses on investigative interviewing. Drawing on Steven’s experience interviewing both terrorism suspects and homicide offenders, we explore whether these interviews differ in approach, the challenges unique to ideologically motivated suspects, and how interview strategies are built within the PEACE framework. We unpack the concept of rapport — often discussed but less often clearly defined — and examine what genuinely effective rapport-building looks like in high-stakes interviews.Part Two offers an operational and reflective look at counter-terrorism policing and high-stakes interviewing — examining not only how these investigations unfold, but how investigators think, adapt, and communicate under pressure.

    54 min
  2. FEB 7

    Catching Killers - The Targeted Violence Podcast - Episode 11 with Steven Keogh

    In this episode of The Targeted Violence Podcast, we are joined by Detective Inspector Steven Keogh, a former Scotland Yard homicide detective who spent 30 years with the London Metropolitan Police, including 12 years investigating homicides at the sharp end of policing. In Part One of this conversation, Steve takes us inside his career — from joining the Met as a young officer to finding his way into homicide work at Scotland Yard. For listeners outside the UK, he explains how policing structures within the Metropolitan Police operate and what the pathway into specialist murder investigations really looks like. We reflect on his early career expectations, his first murder investigation, and the point at which homicide work became the work he knew he was meant to do. A significant focus of this episode is the disappearance and murder of Sian Blake and her two children, Amon and Zachary. Steve takes us back to the earliest stages of the investigation, how the case initially presented, and the importance of victimology in shaping investigative direction. We explore how Sian’s husband, Arthur Simpson-Kent, presented to police in the aftermath of the disappearance and draw parallels with other intimate partner homicide cases, including the murder of children’s author Helen Bailey.We also reflect on the emotional toll of investigating familicides, particularly cases involving children, the lack of true closure that can remain even after convictions, and how detectives cope with that reality. We finish off Part One by stepping back to examine the human and organisational side of homicide policing — what makes an effective homicide investigation team, how dysfunction and ego can derail investigations, and the value of meaningful debriefs once a case concludes. This episode offers an unfiltered look at homicide investigation — the decisions, the burdens, and the responsibility of seeking justice. Since retiring Steve, has published two book and further details about him can be found on his website https://stevekeogh.com.

    51 min

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The Targeted Violence Podcast explores the psychology, motivations, and behaviours behind acts of targeted violence. Hosted by Forensic Psychologist Dr Nathan Brooks, this podcast brings together experts from law enforcement, forensic psychiatry, psychology, and threat assessment to share their firsthand experiences investigating and assessing perpetrators of mass violence, lone actor attacks, stalking, and other targeted offences. Through in-depth discussions and real case analyses, the podcast provides insights into the minds of those who commit these acts.