Exiled & Rising: Trauma Recovery & Somatic Healing

Ana Mael
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What happens to the nervous system when survival becomes identity? Exiled & Rising is a trauma-focused podcast exploring nervous system regulation, shame repair, displacement, boundaries, and dignity-centered healing in a world that often silences collective trauma. Hosted by integrative somatic trauma specialist Ana Mael, this podcast bridges advanced trauma science with lived experience of war and collective violence — offering grounded, justice-aware healing beyond surface-level self-help. Each episode blends: • Nervous system education • Somatic trauma recovery tools • Boundary and shame repair • Reflections on exile, identity, and belonging • Conversations on trauma justice and systemic harm This is not mindset work. This is bottom-up nervous system repair. Exiled & Rising is especially relevant for: • Survivors of war, displacement, and collective trauma • Immigrants navigating identity rupture • Adult children of exiled and displaced families • Those estranged from family or faith communities • Person seeking somatic approaches to PTSD and complex trauma recovery • Clinicians interested in dignity-centered trauma frameworks Rather than isolating healing from context, this podcast examines how trauma lives in the body — and how justice, sovereignty, and regulation must coexist. Meet Your Host Ana Mael (MSc, SEP, TEB, TST) is an integrative somatic trauma practitioner and founder of the Somatic Trauma Recovery Center. Her work is informed by lived experience of war and collective violence and grounded in advanced training in Somatic Experiencing®, Transforming Touch®, Interpersonal Neurobiology, Polyvagal Theory, trauma memory reconsolidation, and attachment repair. She specializes in working with survivors of war, displacement, systemic harm, and complex trauma — helping clients restore nervous system stability, dignity, and embodied sovereignty. She is the author of the bestselling books The Trauma We Don’t Talk. Learn more about her work at the Somatic Trauma Recovery Center:
https://www.somatictraumarecoverycenter.com/ — Support & Resources Read The Trauma We Don’t Talk About
https://amzn.to/41SjKKL ❤️ Support the podcast
https://exiledandrising.castos.com/donate Explore all programs: https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/store She lives in Toronto, Canada. Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes and does not replace individualized mental health care. Please consult a licensed provider for personal treatment.

  1. It is NOT Depression. Resignation Syndrome: The Trauma State Where You Don’t Want to Live or Die.

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    It is NOT Depression. Resignation Syndrome: The Trauma State Where You Don’t Want to Live or Die.

    You Don’t Want to Live and You Don't Want to Die. This is NOT depression. In this pivotal episode, Ana Mael — trauma therapist, nervous-system specialist, and survivor of the Balkan wars — takes listeners into one of the most misunderstood trauma states: Resignation Syndrome. “I don’t want to live and I don’t want to die,” best describes Resignation Syndrome. It is not burnout. It is not laziness. It is not depression. It is not lack of willpower. Ana Mael names what few have dared to: Resignation Syndrome — the global epidemic of nervous-system collapse that hides behind resilience culture.   _________________________________________   Resources Mentioned Somatic Trauma Recovery Center: https://www.somatictraumarecoverycenter.com  Understanding Resignation Syndrome & Somatic Recovery: https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/offers/SSApP35o/checkout   _____________________________________________________  Resignation is not giving up — it’s the body’s protest against a world without safety. This is not burnout, depression, or lack of motivation. It is a biological collapse of the nervous system that occurs when a person has lived too long in survival, uncertainty, or invisibility. It is the body’s last and most intelligent act of self-protection — a deep, metabolic shutdown designed to preserve life until safety, belonging, and justice return. From children displaced by war to adults who keep functioning while feeling nothing, Ana exposes how resignation has become a global epidemic of emotional numbness. She explains how chronic unsafety — in families, workplaces, economies, and nations — teaches the body to withdraw in order to survive. Through somatic science, lived experience, and moral analysis, Ana reveals why resignation is not a failure of resilience, but a demand for accountability, safety, and dignity. This episode bridges clinical understanding, moral philosophy, and human-rights discourse — redefining healing not as individual endurance, but as collective repair. “Resignation is the body’s last intelligent act — a refusal to spend life energy in a world that refuses to be safe.” — Ana Mael Through personal narrative, clinical insight, and moral analysis, Ana explores: How the body transitions from fight/flight → freeze → shutdown. Why resignation is not mental weakness but a physiological protest against chronic unsafety. How this state was first observed in displaced refugee children — and how it quietly lives on in adults who function but feel emotionally absent. The moral and human-rights dimensions of trauma: why safety and accountability are prerequisites for healing. The somatic path to recovery: micro-safety, relational stability, gentle breath and movement, and the slow rebuilding of trust in life. This episode bridges science, embodiment, and ethics — inviting a collective redefinition of what healing really means after survival. “Resignation is not giving up. It’s the body waiting for the world to become safe again.” — Ana Mael In This Episode You’ll Learn The difference between resignation syndrome, depression, and burnout. How the autonomic nervous system (ANS... Chapters (00:00:00) - Resignation Syndrome(00:14:15) - Resignation Syndrome: How to Rest Your Body(00:21:58) - Somatic Trauma Recovery: Resignation Syndrome(00:28:10) - A Little Something for Today

    28 min
  2. War Anxiety Explained: Why Your Nervous System Cannot “Just Calm Down”

    6D AGO

    War Anxiety Explained: Why Your Nervous System Cannot “Just Calm Down”

    War anxiety is not irrational fear. It is your nervous system responding to prolonged threat, displacement, violence, and uncertainty. In this episode of Exiled & Rising, Ana Mael — a war trauma therapist and genocide survivor with decades of lived and clinical experience — offers a trauma-informed, embodied exploration of war anxiety. Ana has lived through war, displacement, and refugeehood, and has spent years working clinically with survivors of war, genocide, political violence, and forced displacement. In this episode, she explains how war anxiety lives in the nervous system, why it affects people far beyond the front line, and how prolonged anticipation of harm reshapes the body, relationships, and sense of safety. She runs programs on war anxiety regulation and stabilization.  ________________ ️ Sing up fpr Ana’s trauma-informed somatic program for war anxiety: https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/offers/9zmMLW7e/checkout ________________ Ana names the realities many carry silently: constant vigilance, difficulty resting, guilt for turning away, numbness mixed with fear, and the moral injury of witnessing suffering without agency. This episode does not offer reassurance, positivity, or quick fixes. Instead, it provides language, containment, and somatic understanding for those living inside ongoing uncertainty. Listeners are invited into a grounded, non-bypassing space where nothing needs to be fixed and resilience is not demanded. Gentle orientation and reflective moments support the nervous system in staying present without collapse. This episode may resonate especially with: Survivors of war, genocide, occupation, or forced displacement Refugees, stateless or undocumented people Those carrying intergenerational or inherited war trauma People living under surveillance, censorship, or political repression Anyone experiencing anxiety or exhaustion related to global conflict ❤️ Please donate This podcast is independently run. No production teams. Fancy edits. Only a somatic therapy education, truth & storytelling. https://exiledandrising.castos.com/donate Somatic Trauma Recovery Center https://www.somatictraumarecoverycenter.com/ Ana Mael’s Unique Approach to Trauma Healing: Ana Mael offers a trauma-informed, justice-centered approach to healing. As a somatic therapist and genocide survivor, Ana’s unique insights stem from lived experience. She doesn’t just teach healing in the traditional sense; she advocates for truth, accountability, and dignity as core components of trauma recovery. Her work speaks to marginalized communities—those who have been forced to suppress their emotions and voices in the face of violence and oppression. She helps them reconnect with their authenticity and emotional sovereignty. Ana challenges harmful practices that disregard the systemic nature of trauma and promotes trauma justice as the important path to healing. By weaving in somatic techniques, Ana empowers individuals to release the weight of their past and move toward personal empowerment. Ana has unique ability to blend compassionate understanding of trauma with empowerment and advocacy for those who are often marginalized. Chapters (00:00:00) - Exiled People: Welcome!(00:03:02) - War Anxiety: What is it?(00:14:52) - How to Cope with War Anxiety(00:20:17) - How to Have Control Over War Anxiety

    22 min
  3. Why Oversharing Harms the Nervous System: Privacy vs Secrecy Explained

    FEB 22

    Why Oversharing Harms the Nervous System: Privacy vs Secrecy Explained

    Have you felt pressured to share something before you were ready — on social media, in family, in therapy, or in spiritual spaces? What is your Right to Privacy in a Culture of Oversharing? If you have ever felt pressured to share something before you were ready — on social media, in family conversations, in therapy, at work, or in spiritual spaces — this episode is for you. Secrecy and privacy are not the same. Confusing them has serious psychological and nervous system consequences. In this episode, somatic therapist Ana Mael explores the trauma-informed difference between secrecy that wounds and privacy that protects. She examines how forced secrecy embeds shame into the body — and how modern oversharing culture destabilizes identity, boundaries, and nervous system regulation. Secrecy often develops in families, religious institutions, and closed communities where silence is framed as loyalty, obedience, virtue, or love. When accountability is displaced inward, survivors carry shame that was never theirs. The nervous system learns that exposure equals danger and truth equals exile. At the same time, in today’s culture of social media exposure, personal branding, and constant disclosure, privacy is increasingly shamed and mislabeled as secrecy. Boundaries are treated as suspicious. Non-disclosure is interpreted as withholding. Oversharing becomes normalized — even expected. Through a trauma-informed, somatic lens, this episode explores: • The nervous system impact of enforced secrecy • How shame lives in the body and compresses vitality • Why premature disclosure can destabilize creativity and identity • The difference between trauma-based silence and chosen privacy • How oversharing shifts locus of control externally • The psychological cost of social media pressure • Why privacy is a human right rooted in dignity and sovereignty • Practical language for protecting boundaries without apology Ana also discusses: – Family secrets and generational trauma – Religious trauma and spiritual pressure to disclose – Nervous system regulation during disclosure – How to determine when sharing is safe – The somatic signs that something needs protection rather than exposure Privacy is not hiding. Privacy is sovereignty. Privacy is nervous system stabilization. If you are navigating trauma, shame, boundary confusion, social media pressure, or relational intrusion, this episode offers a grounded framework rooted in somatic therapy and trauma recovery. If you’re noticing how pressure to share affects your nervous system,  Boundary Stabilization Course is designed to support regulation and containment. You can explore it here: https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/offers/cp7F8o4J/checkout About Ana Mael Ana Mael is a somatic trauma practitioner whose work is shaped by lived experience of war and unrecognized historical trauma. She specializes in supporting survivors of violence, displacement, and systemic harm through nervous system stabilization and dignity-centered healing. She is the author of The Trauma We Don’t Talk About and the founder of the Somatic Trauma Recovery Center. Her work integrates somatic practice, trauma recovery, and justice-centered awareness to help survivors reclaim identity, self-trust, and sovereignty. Learn more about her work at the Somatic Trauma Recovery Center: https://www.somatictraumarecoverycenter.com/ — Support & Resources Read The Trauma We Don’t Talk About https://amzn.to/41SjKKL ❤️ Support the podcast Chapters (00:00:00) - Secrecy vs. Privacy(00:12:28) - Privacy and its importance(00:24:39) - How to Protect Your Privacy(00:34:06) - Be Authentic With Yourself

    36 min
  4. Why You’re Tired of Healing (Nervous System Burnout Explained)

    FEB 15

    Why You’re Tired of Healing (Nervous System Burnout Explained)

    Healing has started to feel like another form of pressure. In this episode, Ana examines how healing culture became intertwined with hustle culture—absorbing the same values of productivity, achievement, visibility, and constant progress. What began as care slowly turned into a project: milestones to reach, breakthroughs to perform, insights to collect, and identities to achieve. Through a trauma-informed and somatic lens, this episode explores why so many people now feel exhausted by healing, why rest no longer feels enough, and why integration has been replaced by endless “firsts.” Healing is reframed not as accumulation or self-optimization, but as containment, digestion, and staying with what has already been lived. Ana discusses how achievement-based healing keeps the nervous system in vigilance, why trauma survivors and people conditioned to endure are especially impacted, and how cultural narratives around growth, resilience, and self-improvement quietly reinforce self-override rather than safety. This episode offers a corrective orientation to healing—one that values integration over performance, completion over constant becoming, and embodiment over endless insight. It invites listeners to question whether exhaustion is a personal failure, or a sign that healing itself has been shaped by systems that do not allow arrival. This conversation is for anyone who feels tired of “working on themselves,” confused by why healing hasn’t brought rest, or sensing that something essential has been lost in the chase to become better. Chapters (00:00:00) - How Healing Culture Turned Into Hustle Culture(00:02:11) - How healing culture became exhausting(00:04:28) - Healing Culture: The End of Movement(00:17:33) - Why You're Tired of Healing

    20 min
  5. After the School Shooting in Canada: A Moral Reckoning

    FEB 11

    After the School Shooting in Canada: A Moral Reckoning

    In the wake of the school shooting in Canada that took the lives of fifteen children, Ana offers a moral reflection on grief, anger, leadership, and collective responsibility. This is not news commentary. It is a call to conscience. Ana speaks directly to the societal questions emerging after the Canada school shooting: What happens when children are no longer safe in schools? What does moral leadership look like when institutions fail? Why do some people say, “It didn’t happen here,” and how does that trauma response reduce proximity of threat and normalize what should never be normalized? In this episode, Ana addresses: • collective grief after a school shooting • trauma responses and societal numbness • leadership failure and civic responsibility • the normalization of violence • why children’s safety is a human rights issue • how adults can respond without collapsing into despair Ana also offers a closing prayer for the children, families, and communities affected — a grounding moment for those carrying grief, anger, and moral shock. If you are feeling devastated, angry, morally unsettled, or disoriented after the school shooting in Canada, this episode offers clarity, conscience, and a space to grieve without becoming numb. This is about grief without collapse. Anger without chaos. And refusing to normalize violence. Ana also offers a closing prayer for the children, families, and communities affected — a grounding, somatic moment for those carrying grief, anger, and moral shock. This prayer is an invitation to hold sorrow without collapsing, to stay human in the face of violence, and to refuse normalization. ------------------- ❤️  Please donate  This podcast is independently run. No production teams. Fancy edits. Only a somatic therapy education, truth & storytelling. https://exiledandrising.castos.com/donate Somatic Trauma Recovery Center https://www.somatictraumarecoverycenter.com/ About Ana Mael: Ana Mael is a genocide survivor, somatic therapist, and author of The Trauma We Don’t Talk About. She is the founder of the Somatic Trauma Recovery Center and has dedicated her career to helping survivors reclaim their identity, dignity, and self-trust. With decades of lived experience, Ana offers a unique, unapologetic approach to healing that combines trauma justice, somatic therapy, and spiritual integrity. She advocates for vulnerability, accountability, and collective healing to dismantle the systems that perpetuate oppression and harm. Ana’s work provides a critical lens into the trauma of marginalized communities and offers a roadmap for healing that is both deeply personal and collectively transformative. Chapters (00:00:00) - Canada's response to the shooting(00:11:09) - A call for activism in the year 2020(00:15:12) - A Prayer for the Victims of the Terror

    19 min
  6. Yielding Trauma: The Hidden Cost of Making Yourself Smaller to Survive

    FEB 8

    Yielding Trauma: The Hidden Cost of Making Yourself Smaller to Survive

    Some trauma doesn’t scream. It steps aside. It apologizes. It yields before anyone asks. It is invisible survival pattern where you give away space, voice, and presence just to stay safe. Once you see it, you’ll recognize it everywhere.  This is the trauma of women, refugees, racialized bodies, exiled and anyone taught that survival depends on becoming smaller. In this episode, Ana Mael introduces Yielding Trauma, a term she coined to describe a rarely named trauma pattern that lives in the body after exile, displacement, chronic danger, and long-term survival under threat. Yielding trauma is what happens when survival teaches a person to make themselves smaller before anyone asks—to yield space, time, voice, and presence as a way to stay safe. It shows up in how we walk, how we wait in lines, how we drive, how we over-serve, and how we apologize for existing. Often misread as politeness, humility, or passivity, yielding trauma is an embodied survival strategy rooted in war, forced migration, systemic oppression, gendered socialization, racism, disability, and chronic marginalization. Through lived war experience, clinical insight, and somatic observation, Ana explores how yielding trauma forms, how it shapes posture, gait, nervous system responses, and misplaced rage, and why moments like road rage or being cut off in line can activate disproportionate reactions. These moments are not about the present incident—they are echoes of years spent yielding to survive. This episode speaks directly to refugees, immigrants, women, BIPOC individuals, disabled bodies, survivors of abuse, and anyone who has learned to move through the world at an angle. It also offers therapists, clinicians, and educators a new framework for understanding behaviors often misunderstood in trauma recovery. Yielding Trauma names what has long been felt but rarely spoken: the cost of survival when belonging was not guaranteed—and the slow, intentional work of reclaiming space, dignity, and presence. ANA TEACHINGS & PROGRAMS https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/store   RESIGNATION SYNDROME RECOVERY https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/offers/SSApP35o/checkout Read the Book: The Trauma We Don't Talk About https://amzn.to/41SjKKL ❤️  Please donate  This podcast is independently run. No production teams. Fancy edits. Only a somatic therapy education, truth & storytelling. https://exiledandrising.castos.com/donate Ana Mael’s Unique Approach to Trauma Healing: Ana Mael offers a trauma-informed, justice-centered approach to healing. As a somatic therapist and genocide survivor, Ana’s unique insights stem from lived experience. She doesn’t just teach healing in the traditional sense; she advocates for truth, accountability, and dignity as core components of trauma recovery. Her work speaks to marginalized communities—those who have been forced to suppress their emotions and voices in the face of violence and oppression. She helps them reconnect with their authenticity and emotional sovereignty. Ana challenges harmful practices that disregard the systemic nature of trauma and promotes trauma justice as the important path to healing. By weaving in somatic techniques, Ana empowers individuals to release the weight of their past and move toward personal empowerment. Ana has unique ability to blend compassionate understanding of trauma with empowerment and advocacy for those who are often marginalized. About Ana Mael: Ana Mael is a ge... Chapters (00:00:00) - There is a Trauma Response No One Teaches You to Name(00:01:03) - Yielding trauma: The body's(00:10:19) - Yielding Trauma: Its Moral Inversion(00:15:27) - Yielding Trauma and Road Rage(00:30:06) - Walking at an Angle: The Trauma

    37 min
  7. From Denounced To Defiant: How Tyranny Silences YOUR Truth and Tools For Resistance

    FEB 1

    From Denounced To Defiant: How Tyranny Silences YOUR Truth and Tools For Resistance

    Have you been punished for speaking the truth, labeled dangerous for naming harm, or feels the pull toward silence and disengagement in the face of global instability this episode is for you. What does it mean to move from denounced to defiant in a world sliding toward authoritarianism? Defiance doesn’t begin with shouting—it begins when the body stops obeying fear. In this episode, Ana Mael explores how moving from denounced to defiant disrupts tyranny at its psychological core and why embodied resistance is one of the most powerful threats to tyranny on a global scale. Building on the experience of denouncement, exile, and silencing, Ana examines how authoritarian systems rely on internalized fear, dissociation, and self-doubt to maintain control. This episode traces how reclaiming bodily presence, moral authority, and self-trust interrupts the psychological foundations of tyranny—long before it becomes visible through laws, violence, or repression. Through a trauma-informed and justice-oriented lens, Ana reframes defiance not as aggression or rebellion, but as the refusal to go numb. She shows how individual nervous system regulation, collective witnessing, and embodied truth-telling undermine authoritarian power worldwide, from family systems to nation-states. This episode is for anyone who has been punished for speaking the truth, labeled dangerous for naming harm, or feels the pull toward silence and disengagement in the face of global instability. It offers language, grounding, and clarity for staying human—and defiant—without burning out or bypassing fear. ANA TEACHINGS & PROGRAMS https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/store   RESIGNATION SYNDROME RECOVERY https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/offers/SSApP35o/checkout Get the Book: The Trauma We Don't Talk About https://amzn.to/41SjKKL ❤️  Please donate  This podcast is independently run. No production teams. Fancy edits. Only a somatic therapy education, truth & storytelling. https://exiledandrising.castos.com/donate   Somatic Trauma Recovery Center https://www.somatictraumarecoverycenter.com/

    33 min
  8. War Testimony: Un-belonging — Exiled in 10 Minutes

    JAN 25

    War Testimony: Un-belonging — Exiled in 10 Minutes

    Ana is delivering a war testimony of exile that reframes belonging as a bodily, ancestral, and political condition—not a social one. This is not a story about moving countries. It is a story about what happens to identity, nervous system, dignity, and spatial entitlement when belonging is violently withdrawn. She is naming something rarely articulated with this precision: Unbelonging is not absence. It is an active state imposed on the body. This piece exposes unbelonging as: a somatic condition a psychological adaptation a moral injury a political outcome an intergenerational wound Ana is not asking for empathy. She is documenting a structure of experience. 2. The Most Impactful Contribution of the Piece The concept of “Yielding Trauma” ( will be published next week! ) This is the most original and devastating contribution in the work. “Yielding trauma is when you give away space before anyone asks.” Ana identifies a trauma pattern that: is not commonly named in trauma literature is instantly recognizable to displaced people explains behaviors often misread as passivity, politeness, or humility She shows that exile does not only take home— it takes the right to occupy space without apology. Yielding trauma explains: why refugees shrink why survivors over-serve why exiled bodies move diagonally through life why shame precedes interaction why belonging feels “earned” rather than innate This concept alone is field-shaping. 3. What Makes This a True War Story (Not Just a Memoir) Ana refuses abstraction. She anchors the war in: the parking lot the bomb shelter the bakery the coffee shop the elevator the pavement This is crucial. War here is not described as ideology or politics. It is described as how a neck stiffens, where a body sits, how eyes stop lifting, how a voice repeats itself. The line that makes this unmistakably a war story: “I became exiled into homelessness in ten minutes.” Time collapses. Civilization collapses. Identity collapses. This is how war actually happens. 4. Key Teachings Embedded in the Narrative Ana teaches without instructing. Teaching 1: Belonging is a nervous system state Not a belief. Not a passport. Not social acceptance. When she writes: “My nervous system could not settle into it.” She teaches that belonging cannot be cognitively convinced—it must be somatically re-learned. Teaching 2: Shame is spatial This is rare and profound. Shame is shown not as an emotion, but as movement choreography: corner tables angled walking lowered gaze reduced sound bodily minimization Ana reveals shame as a map of avoidance written into the body. Teaching 3: Exile internalizes unworthiness Not metaphorically—literally. “This is how exile shapes you: not only through loss, but through the internalization of unworthiness.” She makes clear that exile succeeds when the person begins to poli... Chapters (00:00:00) - Exiled in 10 Minutes: What Happens to Your Identity in(00:12:45) - How exile and war trauma shapes you(00:24:09) - The Souls of Immigrants(00:29:43) - A different kind of unbelonging

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What happens to the nervous system when survival becomes identity? Exiled & Rising is a trauma-focused podcast exploring nervous system regulation, shame repair, displacement, boundaries, and dignity-centered healing in a world that often silences collective trauma. Hosted by integrative somatic trauma specialist Ana Mael, this podcast bridges advanced trauma science with lived experience of war and collective violence — offering grounded, justice-aware healing beyond surface-level self-help. Each episode blends: • Nervous system education • Somatic trauma recovery tools • Boundary and shame repair • Reflections on exile, identity, and belonging • Conversations on trauma justice and systemic harm This is not mindset work. This is bottom-up nervous system repair. Exiled & Rising is especially relevant for: • Survivors of war, displacement, and collective trauma • Immigrants navigating identity rupture • Adult children of exiled and displaced families • Those estranged from family or faith communities • Person seeking somatic approaches to PTSD and complex trauma recovery • Clinicians interested in dignity-centered trauma frameworks Rather than isolating healing from context, this podcast examines how trauma lives in the body — and how justice, sovereignty, and regulation must coexist. Meet Your Host Ana Mael (MSc, SEP, TEB, TST) is an integrative somatic trauma practitioner and founder of the Somatic Trauma Recovery Center. Her work is informed by lived experience of war and collective violence and grounded in advanced training in Somatic Experiencing®, Transforming Touch®, Interpersonal Neurobiology, Polyvagal Theory, trauma memory reconsolidation, and attachment repair. She specializes in working with survivors of war, displacement, systemic harm, and complex trauma — helping clients restore nervous system stability, dignity, and embodied sovereignty. She is the author of the bestselling books The Trauma We Don’t Talk. Learn more about her work at the Somatic Trauma Recovery Center:
https://www.somatictraumarecoverycenter.com/ — Support & Resources Read The Trauma We Don’t Talk About
https://amzn.to/41SjKKL ❤️ Support the podcast
https://exiledandrising.castos.com/donate Explore all programs: https://exiledandrising.mykajabi.com/store She lives in Toronto, Canada. Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes and does not replace individualized mental health care. Please consult a licensed provider for personal treatment.

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