Profit & Grit with Tyler

Tyler Martin

Profit and Grit is the no-BS weekly podcast for home service business owners and blue collar entrepreneurs. Each episode features real strategies from successful contractors and industry experts in HVAC, plumbing, electrical, roofing, and other trades. Hosted by Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home service businesses and the trades, Profit & Grit dives into growth, cash flow, hiring, pricing, and leadership. If you own or want to grow a business in the trades, this home service podcast will help you build a stronger, more profitable company.

  1. 1d ago

    Building Trust Beyond the Service Call - Brennan Bleile

    Brennan Bleile started Suck It Up Furnace Cleaning during one of the hardest seasons of his life, eventually growing the company from one truck to six while building a strong reputation in his local market. In this episode of Profit & Grit, I talk with Brennan about growing the business through word of mouth, memorable branding, repeat customers, and a customer experience that has helped the company earn more than 2,000 reviews. We also get into delegation, hiring, managing margins, handling unhappy customers, and Brennan’s perspective on growing a company without losing sight of family and the life he wants outside the business. What You Will Learn in This Episode How Brennan went from welding to building a six-truck home service companyWhy starting at the “perfect time” was never an option for BrennanHow delegating to the right people helped him grow beyond doing everything himselfWhy memorable branding helped Suck It Up stand out in a crowded marketHow Brennan built a customer experience that generated more than 2,000 reviewsWhy listening and responding quickly can turn a frustrated customer aroundHow repeat customers reduce the pressure to constantly pay for new leadsHow routing jobs more efficiently helps Brennan control fuel costs and protect marginsWhy Brennan believes strong service and personal relationships keep customers coming backHow he thinks about growth while still protecting time for his familyMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://profitandgrit.com Learn more at profitandgrit.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    Building Trust Beyond the Service Call - Brennan Bleile
  2. Sep 29

    The $3M Phone Call Problem in Every Home Service Business - Josh Crouch

    A lot of home service businesses think they need more leads when the bigger opportunity may be converting more of the ones they already have. In this episode, I sit down with Josh Crouch, founder of Relentless Digital, co-host of Service Business Mastery, and co-founder of PhoneTap. We talk about one of the biggest revenue leaks in the trades: what happens after the phone rings. Josh explains why booking rates are often lower than owners think and how missed calls, pricing objections, and weak follow-up can cost companies significant revenue. We also break down how small improvements in booking rate, technician conversion, and average ticket can create meaningful growth without increasing marketing spend. We also cover Google and AI, choosing the right marketing channels and agency, and how AI call analysis can help uncover lost revenue opportunities. The big takeaway is simple: growth is not always about getting more leads. Sometimes it starts with getting more from the opportunities already inside your business. What You Will Learn in This Episode Why more leads may not solve a home service company’s growth problemHow missed calls can quietly create major revenue lossesWhy actual booking rates are often lower than owners realizeHow pricing objections and call handling affect lead conversionWhy a small increase in booking rate can create significant revenueHow booking rate, technician conversion, and average ticket work togetherWhy better follow-up on missed leads and open estimates mattersHow Google and AI are changing the way homeowners search for contractorsWhat I believe owners should look for when choosing a marketing agencyHow AI call analysis can help identify and recover lost revenue opportunitiesMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://profitandgrit.com Learn more at profitandgrit.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    The $3M Phone Call Problem in Every Home Service Business - Josh Crouch
  3. Sep 22

    From Wall Street to $12 Million Pest Control - Carmen Reino

    Going from a $130,000 one-man operation to a nearly $12 million company takes more than just selling more jobs. In this episode of Profit & Grit, I talk with Carmen Reino, owner of Anchor Pest Control, about leaving a Wall Street IT career to buy a one-man pest control company and building it into a 65-person operation on pace for around $12 million in revenue. Carmen shares how his willingness to take risks shaped the company, why moving toward more residential revenue improved margins and cash flow, and what he learned when top-line growth started outpacing bottom-line profitability. We also get into building a leadership team, using EOS and measurable accountability, and creating a simple dashboard that gives him a daily pulse on the business. For trades owners and home service company owners, this conversation is a practical look at what has to change as a company grows, from hiring the right leaders and protecting margins to stepping away from day-to-day problems and using technology to make better decisions. What You Will Learn in This Episode How Carmen grew Anchor Pest Control from $130,000 to nearly $12 millionWhy taking calculated and sometimes uncalculated risks played a major role in the company’s growthHow a $10,000 bed bug detection dog became an important part of the businessWhy Carmen shifted the company toward a larger share of residential revenueHow residential work improved margins and created more predictable cash flowWhy growing revenue does not always mean the business is becoming more profitableHow leadership needs change as a company moves from $2 million to $5 million and beyondHow EOS helped Carmen introduce clearer metrics and accountability across the companyWhy Carmen built a simple dashboard to track the most important numbers without relying on multiple spreadsheetsHow Anchor Pest Control uses AI coaching and automation to improve sales, customer service, and day-to-day operationsMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://profitandgrit.com Learn more at profitandgrit.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    From Wall Street to $12 Million Pest Control - Carmen Reino
  4. Sep 15

    Why Trades Businesses Stall at $10 Million - Josh Kelly

    Josh Kelly has spent years building, operating, and advising home service companies, helping multiple businesses reach nine figures while learning what it takes to scale beyond the point where everything depends on the owner. In this episode of Profit & Grit, I talk with Josh about his path from struggling to make payroll to owning HVAC, plumbing, and electrical businesses across the country that are on pace to generate around $150 million this year. Josh also shares why many home service companies get stuck around the $8 million to $10 million range, why developing strong middle managers is so important, and why he focuses on consistent momentum instead of chasing massive long-term revenue goals. For HVAC, plumbing, electrical, and multi-trade owners, this conversation covers leadership development, pricing, sales systems, vendor negotiations, daily reporting, profitability, and how AI and automation are changing the way owners can monitor and manage their businesses. What You Will Learn in This Episode How Josh went from struggling with payroll to building and owning large home service businessesWhy mindset can become one of the biggest limits on a company’s growthWhy Josh focuses on consistent momentum instead of massive long-term revenue goalsWhy home service companies often hit a ceiling around the $8 million to $10 million rangeWhy developing strong middle managers becomes critical as a shop gets biggerHow constantly giving managers the answers can keep the owner at the center of every problemWhy Josh believes simple sales systems are easier for an entire team to execute consistentlyHow pricing and better vendor negotiations can protect margins and improve profitabilityHow Josh uses daily KPIs and reporting to spot problems before the end of the monthWhy AI and automation are making financial and operational data much easier for trades owners to access and useMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://profitandgrit.com Learn more at profitandgrit.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    Why Trades Businesses Stall at $10 Million - Josh Kelly
  5. Sep 8

    How to Scale a Trades Business Without Chaos - AI Levi

    A growing trades business can still feel chaotic when too much depends on the owner. Al Levi knows that firsthand after helping grow his family’s plumbing, HVAC, and electrical company to more than 70 employees and roughly $17 million in revenue. In this episode, Al Levi joins me to share what he learned as a third-generation trades business owner, author of The 7-Power Contractor, and longtime industry consultant. We talk about how stronger systems, technician training, career paths, and leadership development helped build a company that could operate without constant owner involvement. We also discuss Al’s Top Five approach to priorities, why practical playbooks go beyond basic SOPs, and why developing technicians and leaders from within can create a stronger company. We get into private equity, acquisitions, ethical sales, org charts, training, and what it takes to build a home service business that can keep growing without everything depending on the owner. What You Will Learn in This Episode Why a profitable $17 million trades business could still feel chaoticHow stronger systems allowed Al to step away from the family companyWhy developing employees internally can create a stronger talent pipelineHow the Top Five approach helps owners and teams stay focusedWhy practical playbooks are more effective than basic SOPsWhat trades owners should understand before accepting private equity moneyHow systems can make acquisitions easier to integrateHow ethical sales starts with diagnosing the customer’s needsWhy ride-alongs still matter when training and coaching techniciansWhy building leaders from within helps companies operate without constant owner involvementHow clear career paths can help apprentices grow into technicians and future leadersMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://cfointrocall.com Learn more at profitandgrit.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    How to Scale a Trades Business Without Chaos - AI Levi
  6. Sep 1

    Your HVAC Business Shouldn’t Depend on the Weather - Keith Flores

    Growth in the trades has never been just about booking more calls for Keith Flores. It is about understanding the numbers, earning customer trust, building the right team, and creating a company people remember long after the service visit. In this episode of Profit & Grit, I sit down with Keith Flores, CEO of HVAC God, HG Home Services, and Home Guardian. Keith shares what he learned from growing quickly before fully understanding the P&L, walking away from a business partnership that went wrong, and building a highly local HVAC company that operates within roughly a five-mile service area. After more than 35 years in the industry, Keith has worked nearly every side of the business. He started in crawl spaces at 12 years old, built an HVAC company from zero to $4.5 million in its first year, helped other companies improve their sales and operations, worked with private equity groups, and eventually developed a sharper perspective on growth, profitability, hiring, branding, and customer retention. We also discuss why Keith believes branding matters more than weather, how professionalism shapes customer trust, why he prefers developing younger technicians, how private equity is changing the trades, and why customer retention may be one of the biggest opportunities home service companies are overlooking. What You Will Learn in This Episode How he built his first HVAC company from zero to $4.5 million in one yearWhat Keith learned from growing a company without understanding the P&LWhy branding became one of his most important growth strategiesWhat went wrong in a business partnership that reached roughly $15 millionWhy contracts, ownership agreements, and clear paperwork matter from the beginningWhy Keith describes HVAC as weather enhanced rather than weather drivenHow a roughly five-mile service radius can improve productivity and employee satisfactionWhy clean trucks, uniforms, and technician presentation have such a strong effect on customer trustWhy Keith prefers developing younger technicians instead of relying only on experienced hiresHow private equity is changing technician recruiting, compensation, and competition in the tradesWhy customer retention may be a bigger opportunity than constantly chasing new leadsWhy transparency and access to system data can help homeowners make better service decisionsMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://cfointrocall.com Learn more at profitandgrit.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    Your HVAC Business Shouldn’t Depend on the Weather - Keith Flores
  7. Aug 25

    How a Blind Plumber Built a 40-Truck Business - Bob Beall

    Bob Beall has spent about 40 years in plumbing, building companies, selling businesses, surviving difficult growth periods, and learning what it takes to move from working in the trade to leading a larger operation. In this episode of Profit & Grit, Tyler Martin talks with Bob about his path from learning plumbing with a visual impairment to building and selling BNC Plumbing, starting over with Mr. Rooter, and eventually growing across multiple territories with roughly 40 trucks. Bob also shares some of the harder lessons behind that growth, including what happened when he added equipment and employees too quickly, why he now believes strongly in pricing for profit, and why knowing your numbers becomes even more important as the company gets bigger. For plumbing, HVAC, electrical, and multi-trade owners, this conversation covers growth, profitability, technician training, marketing, financial management, family business, customer service, and the numbers Bob watches to keep the operation moving in the right direction. What You Will Learn in This Episode How Bob learned the plumbing trade while dealing with a visual impairmentHow he built BNC Plumbing from scratch and eventually sold the companyWhat his first business sale taught him about contracts, earn-outs, and non-compete agreementsHow he started over after selling his first plumbing businessWhy growing too quickly eventually put pressure on the companyHow Bob made it through difficult periods when cash became tightHow consistent technician training has helped increase average tickets and technician earningsWhat it takes to maintain service quality across multiple territoriesWhy Bob watches customer reviews as an operational indicatorHow he approaches working with his children inside a family-run businessThe booking and close-rate benchmarks Bob watches inside his plumbing companyWhy he looks at numbers frequently but prefers making larger decisions based on quarterly performanceHow Bob thinks about marketing versus advertising and measuring return on marketing spendWhy he believes home service companies need a strong presence across Google and social mediaMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://cfointrocall.com Learn more at http://cfomadeeasy.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    How a Blind Plumber Built a 40-Truck Business - Bob Beall
  8. Aug 18

    How to Grow Without Experienced Technicians - Austin Blanchard

    Building a multi-trade company is difficult enough when experienced technicians are available. Austin Blanchard and his business partner took a different route by building much of their talent from the ground up. In this episode of Profit & Grit, Tyler Martin talks with Austin Blanchard, co-owner of Dynamech, about growing an HVAC, plumbing, and electrical company toward $5 million in revenue through organic growth without outside investors, loans, or acquisitions. Austin shares why Dynamech hires for character before technical experience, how they train employees across multiple trades, and why clear roles between service and project execution have become increasingly important as the company grows. For trades owners and home service company owners, this conversation offers a practical look at hiring, technician development, business partnerships, performance tracking, margins, systems, and building a company around the strengths of the people already inside it. What You Will Learn in This Episode How Dynamech grew toward $5 million through organic growthWhat Austin looks for when interviewing potential techniciansWhy ownership accountability and positivity matter in their hiring processHow experienced employees eventually became trainers for newer techniciansHow multi-trade training helps Dynamech manage changing workloadsHow extensive photo documentation helps maintain quality during trainingWhy Dynamech separated service from project executionHow service technicians diagnose problems and present options while project teams complete larger workWhy Austin believes being busy does not always mean an employee is creating enough valueHow Dynamech is experimenting with merit-based pay tied to revenue generation and executionWhy the company targets roughly 50 percent gross profitHow owner compensation and overhead can distort reported profitabilityWhy Austin believes financial benchmarks need context before owners compare themselves to other shopsWhy Austin believes a flexible software setup can support Dynamech toward $10 million and beyondHow complementary technical and business skill sets became one of Dynamech’s biggest competitive advantagesMore From Profit & Grit Book your complimentary Financial Insight Session with Tyler Martin, fractional CFO for home services and the trades, here: http://cfointrocall.com Learn more at http://cfomadeeasy.com Follow the show for weekly interviews with HVAC, plumbing, and home service owners and experts who share what it really takes to grow, scale, and profit in the trades. If you listen to any of the following shows, we’re sure you’ll love ours too! To The Point Home Services Podcast, Toolbox for the Trades, Masters of Home Service, Home Service Business Coach With David Moerman, BlueCollar.CEO, The Home Service Expert Podcast, Next Level Pros, Blue Collar Business Podcast, Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes, The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber, and Blue Collar Success Group. 🎙️ Profit & Grit by Tyler Martin Real stories. Real strategy. Real results for service-based business owners. 🔗 Website: ProfitAndGrit.com 📍 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thinktyler 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @profitandgrit Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home services and the trades 📅 Want to grow your business with smarter financial strategy? Book a free intro meeting

    How to Grow Without Experienced Technicians - Austin Blanchard
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Profit and Grit is the no-BS weekly podcast for home service business owners and blue collar entrepreneurs. Each episode features real strategies from successful contractors and industry experts in HVAC, plumbing, electrical, roofing, and other trades. Hosted by Tyler Martin, a fractional CFO for home service businesses and the trades, Profit & Grit dives into growth, cash flow, hiring, pricing, and leadership. If you own or want to grow a business in the trades, this home service podcast will help you build a stronger, more profitable company.

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