Sink and Swim

Julie Granger
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Sink into your truth, rewrite the story you were born to live, swim in your Soul’s purpose. Sink AND Swim is a podcast for high-achieving Luminaires ready to break free from the “sink or swim” societal narratives that dictate the “right” ways to live, work, parent, and be.  By paddling furiously to stay afloat and conform to the corset of "sink or swim" narratives, we are pulled away from our deepest and most authentic stories. This show illuminates the stories of Luminaires - gifted, talented, multidimensional, soul-led, and neurospicy people who have gone on the deep alchemical journey from telling a story of sink OR swim to sink AND swim.  Listeners are invited to “sink” into your raw, unfiltered stories, uncovering the gifts embedded in the parts of you that you were conditioned to hide and conform. There, you'll find the buoyancy to “swim” - fully embracing the freedom to be who you are, live out your soul's purpose, and attract people and opportunities that honor you in your full expansiveness.

  1. Tell Me More with Dr. Ashley Martinez: On getting broken open, the body that never lies...and how both become your greatest practitioner tool

    3D AGO

    Tell Me More with Dr. Ashley Martinez: On getting broken open, the body that never lies...and how both become your greatest practitioner tool

    Ashley Martinez is a women's health pelvic floor PT, integrative nutrition health coach, single mom, and highly sensitive person who spent years leading with her credentials — until life made that impossible. In this episode, Ashley shares her story publicly for the first time: the deployment, the divorce, the infidelities on both sides, the church that excommunicated her, the family that demanded achievement in exchange for love, and the body that quietly kept score through it all. What emerged on the other side wasn't a redemption arc with a bow on it. It was something messier and more honest — a woman who stopped trying to be righteous and started getting curious. We talk about what it really means to create healing space for patients (hint: it starts way before the intake form), why your symptoms are your body speaking and not your identity, the difference between a groove and actual health, and what happens when you finally stop running from the uncomfortable thing and just... sit in it. This one went beautiful places. Come ready to feel something. 00:00 — The Ick Factor of Polished People 16:50 — Floor to Flourishing: The First Three Years of Single Motherhood 29:14 — There Are No Villains Here 34:02 — Boundaries Are Between Me and Me 47:06 — Your Body Was Always Speaking 58:46 — Stop Making Your Diagnosis Your Identity 01:00:39 — What She'd Whisper to Her Younger Self If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    1h 23m

  2. APR 22

    The Good Patient is Dead: How the medical system trained me to stop trusting myself — and how I got out

    On April 1st, 2026, I opened a patient portal and read the words that officially closed an 11-year chapter of cancer surveillance. No fanfare. No one else in the room. Just me, the screen, and a quiet exhale that had been building for over a decade. But this episode isn't really about a scan result. It's a story I've never told publicly — the plot twist that added an extra year to my surveillance, the six-month stretch of unexpected medical news that cracked me open in ways cancer treatment never did, and the slow, devastating process of wriggling my identity free from both the Good Patient and the Good Provider I'd been trained to perform. From Christmas Eve biopsies to crying through Taylor Swift at the Eras Tour in Paris, to throwing myself a 10-years-cancer-free party before I was technically "done" — I trace how I rebuilt my relationship with my own body, reclaimed sovereignty inside a system designed to strip it away, and learned what true co-regulation in medical care actually feels like. And how rarely I'd experienced it. This one is for the high-achieving women in healthcare who have spent years knowing their patients' bodies better than their own. Who go full provider-mode at their own appointments. Who brush off subpar care because they understand the system. Who have never once been asked — really asked — how they're doing in the middle of it all. I'm asking those questions out loud in this episode. The ones most of us have never let ourselves finish. 00:00 — The Portal Moment: What 11 Years of Waiting Felt Like in Two Seconds 09:17 — Benedict and the Backstory: The Cancer Diagnosis Nobody Saw Coming 13:49 — The Good Patient™: On Surveillance, the Sick Cycle, and Handing Over Dominion 22:14 — The Plot Twist: When the Year-Nine Scan Added a Year You Didn't Have to Give 31:08 — Defiant Joy: How She Held Lung Nodules, Dog Crises, and the Eras Tour in Paris at the Same Time 47:52 — The Beet-Red Breast Specialist and the Nurse Who Reached for Her Hand 01:00:49 — Declaring Yourself Free Before Anyone Else Does If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    1h 23m
  3. Beyond the Credential: Dr. Jessica Drummond on What Women in Healthcare Are Finally Allowed to Want

    APR 8

    Beyond the Credential: Dr. Jessica Drummond on What Women in Healthcare Are Finally Allowed to Want

    Dr. Jessica Drummond has spent two decades training clinicians and coaches in women's health. She built the only women's health coach certification program in the world. And somewhere in the middle of all of that, she started going to the French bakery just because she felt like it. That tension — between what we've built and what we actually want — is at the heart of this conversation. We talk about what it looks like to stay grounded when your day is anything but linear. The systemic pressure behind personal branding and why it's not just vanity. The analog friendships we've quietly stopped having. Perimenopause as a portal, not a problem. And the historic moment we may be living inside — the first time in history that a meaningful number of women have enough money, power, and autonomy to actually ask what they want. And mean it. This one is for the woman who has built something real and is starting to wonder what she actually built it for. 00:00 — Who Is Dr. Jessica Drummond 08:56 — The High Achiever Who Learned to Stop Overriding 14:16 — Why Everyone Feels Pressure to Have a Personal Brand (It's Not What You Think) 19:29 — Analog Friendship and What We've Quietly Lost 38:50 — The Internet Is Polluted — and the Swing Back to Human 45:24 — AI, Ethics, and the Healthcare Provider's Dilemma 54:05 — The First Generation of Women Who Get to Ask What They Want 01:05:25 — Perimenopause as a Portal: The Veil Lifts 01:13:19 — Outro -- Love what you hear and want to learn more from Jessica?  Discover more on Instagram:Integrative Women's Health Institute: @integrativewomenshealth Jessica's instagram: @drjessicadrummond Tune in to the Integrative Women's Health PodcastIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    1h 18m

  4. APR 1

    The Healthcare Career Pivots You Don't See on LinkedIn

    You see the LinkedIn announcement from a colleague. You see them celebrate pivoting from Point A to Point B. But you don't don't see what happened in the middle of the pivot for it to actually happen.  In this episode, Julie breaks down the four stages of a healthcare career pivot — and why the messy, invisible middle is actually where the real transformation lives. This isn't a how-to. It's a map. And it's the conversation nobody posts about. Through real stories of clients who went from pelvic PT to somatic coach, from viral Instagram influencer to brick-and-mortar practice, from corporate PT manager to web designer, from neuro clinician to top real estate broker, and from nurse practitioner to hospital chaplain, Julie names what actually happens between who you were and who you're becoming. If you've been circling the same question for months — or years — this episode will help you figure out exactly where you are, why you're not stuck, and what it actually takes to move forward without losing yourself in the process. 03:54 — Why Nobody Talks About the Middle of a Career Pivot 09:02 — The 4 Stages of Career Change (And Why You Can't Skip Them) 18:36 — Stage 1 & 2: Scouting, Seeking, and Running on the Treadmill 29:50 — Stage 3: Emerging — The Birthing Process Nobody Warned You About 38:01 — Subtracting to Add: Why Grief Is the Thing That Actually Moves You Forward 52:17 — Real Clinician Stories: What Pivots Actually Look Like From the Inside If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    1h 32m
  5. The Hidden Energy Crisis in Active Millennial Women & Their Teens (It's Not Just Perimenopause & Puberty) with Dr. Katherine Hill & Megan Hellner of AthleatMD

    MAR 11

    The Hidden Energy Crisis in Active Millennial Women & Their Teens (It's Not Just Perimenopause & Puberty) with Dr. Katherine Hill & Megan Hellner of AthleatMD

    Many high-achieving and active women in perimenopause and teen athletes in puberty pride themselves on discipline, resilience, and doing everything “right.” But what if the very habits that helped you succeed are quietly draining your energy, disrupting your hormones, and disconnecting you from your body? In this episode, Julie sits down with Dr. Katherine Hill (Stanford-trained physician) and Megan Hellner (registered dietitian) — co-founders of AthleteMD, a multidisciplinary practice specializing in Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (RED-S). What begins as a conversation about young athletes quickly expands into something much bigger: the hidden epidemic of under-fueling among ambitious humans, especially women navigating intense careers, motherhood, and changing bodies. They explore why many driven people unknowingly fall into chronic under-fueling while trying to follow “healthy” advice — from clean eating to high-protein trends to restrictive wellness culture. They also unpack the surprising parallels between teen athletes and women in midlife, where changing hormones, high performance expectations, and misinformation collide. This episode is a powerful reminder that health isn’t something you earn through restriction or optimization — it begins with enough fuel, enough flexibility, and enough compassion for the body you live in. Whether you’re an athlete, a healthcare professional, a parent of a young competitor, or simply someone learning to soften after years of pushing yourself, this conversation will challenge the way you think about food, performance, and self-trust. 00:00 — Why High-Performing Women and Athletic Teens Often Run on Empty 08:21 — Building AthleteMD: Creating Care That Puts People First 14:23 — RED-S: The Hidden Energy Deficiency Affecting Athletes of all Ages Everywhere 22:20 — When “Healthy Eating” Becomes Under-Fueling 32:29 — The Overlooked Parallel: Teen Athletes and Women in Midlife 42:44 — Recognizing the Warning Signs of RED-S 58:09 — What True Nourishment Actually Looks Like for Athletes -- Love what you hear and want to explore more? -- Stay connected with the founders of AthleatMD: Instagram: @athleatMD Website: https://www.athleatmd.com/ If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    1h 27m

  6. MAR 4

    Notes from a Fart Walk: The Anti-Optimization Episode Your Nervous System’s Been Begging For

    Welcome to the second-ever Notes from a Fart Walk — your monthly, come-as-you-are digest for ambitious women who are tired of urgency, polarization, and performative “fix yourself” wisdom. In this episode, Julie sinks into real-time, unpolished truth: the “recovering good girl” moment at a big event when her body was pleading to leave… and the shame spiral that followed when she looked around and assumed everyone else was “fine.” She unpacks why this isn’t a personal flaw — it’s inherited conditioning — and how self-trust is rebuilt through simple noticing, not more optimizing. From there, she moves into what feels stinky and unfinished right now: body image narratives, perimenopause, and the deeper cultural roots of fatphobia and “health” standards — plus the permission to be in process, without needing a tidy conclusion. You’ll also hear what’s been keeping her up at night (in a nerdy, grounding way): curiosity about civics, systems, and how to stay informed without doom-scrolling or martyring yourself. Then we shift into community as nervous system medicine — why “care in community” can still be exhausting when everything requires scheduling, childcare, money, or effort — and why Julie is fiercely committed to creating third spaces (game night, book club, analog friendship). There’s also a sweet detour into the dog-mom corner (Aspen: professional screen-time interventionist). Finally, she brings it into Swim Practice + Swim Meet: easy “fed is best” nourishment in a full season, what’s on repeat in her headphones, what she’s reading, random facts you didn’t ask for, a big personal win (her memoir officially heading to developmental edit), and what’s firing her up — including protecting women’s sports and calling out a missing conversation in perimenopause: low energy availability / RED-S in athletic, driven women who are being sold one-size-fits-all menopause advice. This episode is a permission slip to be a messy human in process… and still be a powerful, world-changing woman. 06:29 — Urgency, Capitalism, and Why You Feel Like You’re Always Behind12:33 — Sink Into the Deep End: When Your Body Doesn’t Believe Your “Image”37:37 — It’s a Team Effort: Loneliness, Co-Regulation, and Building Third Spaces50:07 — Swim Practice: “Fed Is Best,” Soundtracks, Book Club, and Random Joy01:08:11 — Swim Meet: What I’m Fighting For (Women’s Sports + RED-S in Perimenopause) Tap here for Petition to Support Marshall University Swim & Dive If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    1h 22m

  7. FEB 25

    Big events are hard because they’re hard — Especially If you’re highly attuned, you love people, and you get overstimulated easily

    If you’re a highly sensitive being, neurodivergent, or introverted… and you find big, stimulating events hard but don’t want to avoid “peopling” altogether, this episode is for you. If you've ever left a conference, alumni weekend, wedding, or “inspiring” networking event feeling like you need 72 hours alone in a dark room… and you then start wondering what’s wrong with you because everyone else seems to bounce back, return to normal life, and handle it just fine -- welcome! You're in the right place. In this episode, Julie unpacks what’s actually happening when your nervous system starts waving the little white flag in big, overstimulating environments — especially for high-achieving, highly attuned women who are used to “handling it”… that is, until their body says (or screams), "Nope! You’re done!" You’ll hear a real, candid story from a recent event Julie attended, contrasted with a different event: in one of them, she honors her nervous system really well — and in the other, she crashes and burns.  She walks through what it looked like for her body to speak up, what it felt like to listen to it, and what it felt like to grapple with a decision that worked against it.  And yes: she highlights the very relatable tug-of-war between “I want meaningful connection” and “I’m past capacity and need to course correct.” If you’re building a life or career where you want to honor your body, your soul, your spirit — while also harnessing your ambition and your desire to be around other people — this episode offers real and refreshing ways to navigate it without micromanaging yourself, avoiding people, all while trusting and honoring your body's cues and desires. 00:00 — Overstimulation + why “big events” hit different 05:35 — The invisible social rules women are navigating (and exhausted by) in big social spaces 08:07 — “Don’t care what people think” is a lie (and what’s actually true) 13:19 — Resilience isn’t staying regulated — it’s meeting the returning to yourself 15:20 — The “Mullet Method”: friendship first, business second 30:48 — Your body’s signals are invitations: jaw pain, appetite loss, nausea, and the flight urge 42:54 — Integration after the meltdown: turning dysregulation into wisdom If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    52 min

  8. FEB 18

    Clinician to Coach: The Real Reason Women in Healthcare Struggle to Move Fully Into the Coaching Lane

    You’ve started talking about coaching. Maybe you’ve taken a certification.  Maybe you’ve signed a few clients.  Maybe you’re posting about it online.  Maybe you’re still seeing patients “for now.” And yet — you don’t feel fully in. In this episode, Julie unpacks the real reason so many ambitious women in healthcare struggle to move completely into the coaching lane — even when they know they’re capable. It’s rarely about skill. It’s rarely about intelligence. And it’s almost never about needing “one more training.” You’ll hear: Why the clinician-to-coach shift feels harder than it looks from the outsideWhat keeps you hovering in the “almost” stageThe practical difference between clinician and coach — and why clients respond differentlyWhy credentials don’t automatically create confidenceThe mindset shift that allows coaching to become profitable, scalable, and alignedIf you’ve been circling coaching but haven’t fully claimed it yet, this conversation will likely show you exactly where you are in the transition — and why it makes sense that you’re there. And if you listen and realize, “Okay… this is me. I’m in the in-between and I don’t want to stay here,” that’s usually a sign you don’t need more information — you need clarity and support. If that’s the case, you can explore a Soul Story Mapping session in the show notes. It’s a private, working session (not a discovery call) where we map what’s true for you right now — your identity, your business direction, and what’s actually keeping you tethered. You don’t have to decide anything afterward. Sometimes seeing the full picture is enough to shift everything. Either way — you’re not behind. You’re not confused. You’re mid-transition. And that’s a powerful place to be. If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend 👉Looking for more of where this came from?  Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect! Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegranger LinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

    1h 5m
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Sink into your truth, rewrite the story you were born to live, swim in your Soul’s purpose. Sink AND Swim is a podcast for high-achieving Luminaires ready to break free from the “sink or swim” societal narratives that dictate the “right” ways to live, work, parent, and be.  By paddling furiously to stay afloat and conform to the corset of "sink or swim" narratives, we are pulled away from our deepest and most authentic stories. This show illuminates the stories of Luminaires - gifted, talented, multidimensional, soul-led, and neurospicy people who have gone on the deep alchemical journey from telling a story of sink OR swim to sink AND swim.  Listeners are invited to “sink” into your raw, unfiltered stories, uncovering the gifts embedded in the parts of you that you were conditioned to hide and conform. There, you'll find the buoyancy to “swim” - fully embracing the freedom to be who you are, live out your soul's purpose, and attract people and opportunities that honor you in your full expansiveness.

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  • Creator
    Julie Granger
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    30
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Sink and Swim
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