A hula hoop, a slice of cheesecake, and 100% meeting acceptance rate, that's how one guest landed nearly every meeting she ever wanted, before ever pitching a thing. In this episode of Founders in Jeans, I sit down with April Palmer, founder of Rev Amp, an Agile professor at VCU, and self-proclaimed "Hot Mess Boss," who juggles sales consulting, teaching, mentoring startups, and life with two kids, six cats, and a blind dog. April opens up about the wild, winding road that led her from a 911 dispatcher to nursing school to Fortune 100 sales floors to founding her own consultancy, including the hilariously creative (and highly effective) prospecting tactics she used to get in front of clients no one else could reach. She also gets brutally honest about her first startup's failure in year four, the hiring nightmare that shattered her confidence for months, and why "you don't know what you don't know" might be the most important lesson every first-time founder needs to hear. Plus: why she believes the best growth hack isn't a funnel or a framework, it's simply having the audacity to ask for advice. If you're a founder juggling too many hats, worried about hiring mistakes, or too afraid to ask for help, this episode is your permission slip. TIME STAMPS 00:06 – Welcome to Founders in Jeans + how to support the show01:36 – Meet April Palmer: sales consultant, VCU professor, and self-proclaimed Hot Mess Boss03:20 – Her winding early career: from 911 dispatcher to nursing school to Fortune 100 sales06:13 – How she discovered her superpower: closing impossible deals and customer discovery07:34 – The wildly creative prospecting tactics that got her a 100% meeting acceptance rate08:39 – Why generic advice like "rise and grind" doesn't actually help founders10:40 – How she balances sales, teaching, consulting, motherhood, and six cats11:34 – Hiring for her weaknesses (including hiring a household manager)13:42 – The biggest problem entrepreneurs face when trying to manage it all14:17 – The costly budgeting mistake she made building her first startup16:38 – Why "you don't know what you don't know" is every first-time founder's reality17:04 – Why she ditched rigid deadlines and milestones for good18:38 – What actually sets a business apart to survive past year five19:34 – Why her first startup, PivotPass, failed in year four22:36 – Why hiring and firing is the #1 factor you can control for success24:00 – The wild story of a hire who faked her entire CRM pipeline27:21 – What an incredible hire actually looks like28:53 – Why she's betting on hungry, ambitious college students31:09 – Her book recommendations: They Ask, You Answer and Rocket Fuel33:45 – Her best advice: be audacious and just ask for advice35:56 – Where to find and follow April Palmer __________ Connect with April Palmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hotmessboss/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotmessboss/ Website: https://www.duckbillhq.com/ __________ Follow Emily Jean: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emily.jeans/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-jeans/ Follow Founders in Jeans: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/foundersinjeans Website: https://www.livegooddigital.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FoundersinJeans Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiqSke5mnlFIlC9t4xLU0 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/founders-in-jeans/id1802430594 Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://foundersinjeans.substack.com/subscribe __________ ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Loved this episode? Rate and review Founders in Jeans. It helps more women find us. __________ first time founder advice, startup hiring mistakes, how to close sales deals, founder burnout, small business coaching, sales consultant tips, entrepreneur mentorship, startup failure lessons, women in business podcast, how to ask for advice as a founder