What does artificial intelligence mean for the future of cities, buildings, infrastructure, and investment? In this episode of AI: Voice or Victim, hosts Greg Boone and Erica Rooney sit down with Judyta Sawicka from Echo Investment S.A. for a global conversation about AI adoption, leadership, digital transformation, and the future of real estate. Judyta shares how her background in law, finance, infrastructure, and development shaped her approach to innovation — and why real estate companies are being forced to think years ahead as AI rapidly transforms how people live, work, and interact with cities. The conversation explores: Why AI adoption is more of a culture challenge than a technology challengeHow organizations can balance innovation with responsibility and trustWhy AI literacy is becoming essential across every industryHow AI is already improving energy efficiency in commercial buildingsThe future of smart cities, digital twins, and AI-driven urban planningWhy humans still need to stay “in the loop” with AI systemsHow prompting, iteration, and domain expertise impact AI resultsThe importance of making AI feel personal, safe, and useful for employees Judyta also explains how her company is using AI analytics to reduce energy consumption in buildings by 20–30%, adjusting cooling and heating systems dynamically based on occupancy and weather conditions. Greg and Erica dive into the human side of AI adoption as well — discussing why many companies struggle with digital transformation, how AI changes workplace expectations, and why curiosity may be one of the most important skills for the future workforce. And of course, the episode wraps with the fan-favorite “Last Chat” segment featuring AI-generated dinner ideas, hidden vegetables in waffles, and Greg’s attempt to explain generative AI through a “hang glider vs. space shuttle” analogy. Key TakeawaysAI transformation is fundamentally a people and culture challengeOrganizations need leadership and psychological safety to drive adoptionAI works best as an extension of human expertise, not a replacement for itSmart buildings and smart cities are already becoming realityIteration and feedback are critical to getting better AI outputsAI can unlock major operational efficiencies, especially in energy usageChapters 00:00 – AI adoption from an internal and external business perspective01:00 – Judyta’s journey from law to investment and development02:00 – Long-term thinking in real estate and infrastructure03:00 – Bottom-up AI adoption inside organizations04:00 – ChatGPT vs. Perplexity for research and productivity05:00 – Why digital transformations often fail06:00 – AI literacy, leadership, and workplace culture07:00 – The day ChatGPT outages disrupted productivity08:00 – Balancing AI curiosity with responsibility09:00 – Why humans still need to stay “in the loop”10:00 – Iteration, prompting, and mindset shifts with AI12:00 – AI as an extension of human expertise13:00 – AI opportunities in real estate and infrastructure14:00 – Smart buildings and reducing energy consumption15:00 – Singapore’s AI-powered digital twin city model16:00 – AI, energy demand, and future infrastructure17:00 – AI meal planning, waffles, and parenting hacks18:00 – Greg Boone’s “hang glider vs. space shuttle” AI analogy 👉 Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone navigating the AI revolution. Subscribe to AI: Voice or Victim for more conversations that move you from AI anxious to AI curious. Hosted by Erica Rooney and Greg Boone aka AISerious™, we're helping people and organizations embrace AI ethically, strategically, and with humanity at the center.Follow us and join the movement to shape the future — before it shapes us. 🔗 Follow us and dive deeper: On the web: voiceorvictim.com Greg Boone on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregbooneErica Rooney on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/ 📕 Order our books: Erica Rooney, author of The AI Gap: Women, AI, and the Next Great Leap ForwardGreg Boone, author of AI at the Speed of Trust (available for pre-order)© 2026 Walk West Production