Both Can Be True with Nona

Both Can Be True with Nona
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Hosted by Nona, a licensed psychotherapist, healer, adjunct professor, and intuitive, this podcast explores a wide range of topics to help you connect with your most authentic self. In a world that often demands extremes, we’ll journey together into the gray areas where both can be true. No more rigid binaries—let’s explore the beauty of embracing complexity, learning how to find balance, and being comfortable in the messiness of life.

  1. 1d ago

    Season 3, Episode 46: From Shame to Love with Jessica Fern and David Cooley

    Welcome to Season THREE of Both Can Be True with Nona!! After an unexpected hiatus, I am BACK—and I truly cannot think of a better conversation to begin this new season. This week, I’m joined by Jessica Fern and David Cooley, authors of Transforming the Shame Triangle: From Shame to Love Using Parts Work. And let me just say: when they reached out about coming onto the podcast, I absolutely geeked out. Jessica is also the author of Polysecure, a book I have loved, recommended, talked about, and returned to again and again, and together Jessica and David wrote Polywise. So yes, having them sitting across from me for this conversation was A MOMENT. We talk about shame—not as something we need to get rid of or another part of ourselves we need to “fix,” but as something we can begin to understand differently. Jessica and David unpack the Shame Triangle, the different ways shame can show up in our relationships and within ourselves, and how parts work can help us move from shame toward greater compassion, connection, curiosity, and love. This conversation is such a beautiful reminder that healing does not require us to reject the parts of ourselves we find inconvenient, messy, reactive, protective, or hard to understand. Sometimes the way through is actually learning to turn toward those parts with curiosity instead. You can learn more about Jessica, her books, courses, and work at JessicaFern.com and find her on Instagram at @jessicafern411. You can learn more about David and his work at Restorative Relationship Conversations and connect with him on Instagram at @rrconversations. And while you’re here… COME PLAY WITH ME!! 🌈 THE PLAYGROUND 🌈 The Playground is my 33-day healing playground where we’re doing personal growth a little differently: with curiosity, play, nervous system care, laughter, self-trust, storytelling, brain science, and a whole lot less pressure to constantly be “working on ourselves.” You’ll get a daily 15–30 minute audio from me inside our private Telegram community as we explore boundaries, people-pleasing, perfectionism, intuition, relationships, confidence, identity, inner-child work, and what it actually looks like to become MORE YOU. No homework. No gold stars. No perfect healing required. Just come as you are. Come join The Playground And if you’ve been wanting to learn more about yourself through Human Design or receive some intuitive guidance, I now have multiple Human Design readings—including different types of readings for different seasons, relationships, and needs—as well as Tarot + Oracle readings permanently available in the Both Can Be True shop. Basically, if you want to understand yourself more deeply, feel ridiculously seen, and become even MORE YOU…I made some things for you. Explore the Both Can Be True Shop Thank you for being here, for listening, and for coming back with me for Season Three. We have so much to talk about. Both can be true. 🪩🌵💖✨

  2. May 26

    45. Part Two: You're Not Broken & You're Never "Done"

    Why stop at part one, when part two was ready to go? Continuing to demystify therapy and healing.  Connect with me on Instagram: @andbothcanbetrue or @nonahensonmft www.andbothcanbetrue.com

  3. May 19

    44. You're Not Broken - and You're Never "done:" Demystifying Therapy and Healing

    Stop waiting to be healed. In this episode, Nona demystifies therapy and healing, and challenges the idea that there's some magical endpoint where everything clicks into place and you're finally fixed. Spoiler: that place doesn't exist and no one is broken, so fixing isn't necessary — and honestly, that's good news. Healing is ongoing, evolving, and deeply human. Explore Nona's offerings at linktr.ee/bothcanbetrue — use code SACREDYES50 for 50% off Human Design readings (individual, children's, and couples), tarot and oracle readings, and Sacred Sessions. Also, there are a few spots left for the Return To Her: Sacred Retreat in Sacramento on 5/31 from 12-4pm at her Elevated. Tickets in the link!

  4. May 12

    43. Unraveling Well: Identity, Burnout & the Body's Way Home

    Both Can Be True with Nona | feat. Natasha Ramlall What if burnout isn't the problem — it's the signal? In this episode, Nona sits down with embodiment coach Natasha Ramlall for a conversation that goes beneath the surface of what high-achieving women are actually experiencing. We talk a lot about burnout, but rarely do we talk about what's underneath it: identity rupture, disembodiment, and the cost of building a life entirely in your head while your body quietly checks out. Natasha brings over 25 years of experience in adult education and a deeply personal 19-year career pivot that became the foundation of her work as an Embodied Integration Coach. Her framework, Grounded Expansion, offers women a somatic — not just mental — path through major life transitions. In this episode, we explore: Why "positive thinking" fails when your nervous system doesn't feel safeWhat identity rupture actually looks like in high-achieving women's bodiesThe difference between a burnout you push through and one that's asking you to become someone newWhy the "disorientation phase" of a major life pivot isn't a breakdown — it's a doorwayHow to build your next chapter on somatic safety rather than sheer willpowerThis one is for the woman who has achieved so much and still feels like something is missing. The one who keeps doing the mindset work and wondering why she still feels so far from herself. Both things can be true: you can be brilliant and burned out. Capable and coming undone. And unraveling well — with support, with your body, with intention — might be exactly what's next. Free Resource from Natasha: If this episode lands for you, Natasha is offering her Identity Rupture Safety Pulse — a free 20-minute guided resourcing practice designed to help you find a pocket of internal safety when your old identity is gone and the new one hasn't arrived yet. No positive thinking required. Just your body and your breath.  Get the Safety Pulse here Connect with Natasha: humanistcoaching.ca  natasha@humanistcoaching.ca ✨ Work with Nona: Ready to come home to yourself? Select offerings are currently 50% off using code SACREDYES50 at checkout.  Explore everything at linktr.ee/bothcanbetrue

  5. Apr 14

    42. Not Everyone's Cup of Tea

    In this episode, we're talking about the obsession with being liked — the anxiety that creeps in when someone might be mad at you, disappointed in you, or simply not your biggest fan. That fear has a sneaky way of flattening us: we go along to get along, we don't ruffle feathers, we shrink ourselves to fit spaces that were never really made for us. Here's the truth: not everyone is for you. And you are not for everyone. And that? Is actually the point. Let's talk about what it looks like to stop performing "nice" and start coming home to who you actually are. New on the website! The Inner Compass virtual workshop has been recorded and is now available for purchase at andbothcanbetrue.com. Come find your way back to yourself.

  6. Apr 7

    41. The Dreaded Imposter Syndrome & Not Enoughness

    The voice that says "you don't belong here"? It's lying.This week we're talking imposter syndrome — and not in a surface-level, just-believe-in-yourself way. We're going underneath it. 🎟️ Join me live this Sunday at 11:30am PST for the Inner Compass Virtual Workshop → square.link/u/6C0m8qLY Want more? Sacred Sessions + speaking info at andbothcanbetrue.com

  7. Mar 31

    40. Falling Back In Love with Yourself

    You weren't always this far from yourself. Somewhere between managing relationships, achieving your way through life, absorbing loss, and learning to make yourself smaller — you drifted. In this episode, Nona gets personal and psychological about the real reasons we abandon ourselves, and what it actually looks like to find your way back. This isn't about bubble baths. This is about grief, curiosity, and the quiet, revolutionary choice to stay in relationship with yourself. New updated offerings on my website: www.andbothcanbetrue.com

  8. Mar 17

    39. The Shame of Abundance: Breaking the Patriarchal Script Around Women and Wealth

    Both Can Be True returns with the radiant Stefanie Caponi — author of Guided Tarot; Guided Astrology & Tarot for Manifestation: Attract Your Dream Life Through Shadow Work, Visualization and Writing Love Letters to the Universe and the magic behind @moonvoidtarot — for one of the most honest, fiery, and soul-stirring conversations this podcast has ever held. This one goes deep. Nona and Stefanie pull back the curtain on what it actually means to run a spiritual business when the world is on fire — and they don't stop there. They wade straight into the patriarchal conditioning that has taught women to feel guilty for wanting wealth, to shrink instead of expand, and to compete with each other instead of rise together. They name the shame. They name the guilt. And then they light it on fire. From the page-turning permission slips found in Money Loves Me by Farah Orths and We Should All Be Millionaires by Rachel Rodgers, to the very real fear that lives in the body when a woman dares to step fully into her power — this conversation is about what becomes possible when women with strong hearts and unshakeable integrity accumulate wealth and use it to change the world. Because the narrative about what people do with money and power? Women like us are here to rewrite it. This isn't about bypassing the hard stuff. It's about holding all of it — the grief, the guilt, the calling, and the coins — and choosing to become the truest, most aligned version of yourself anyway. Both can be true. The world needs saving. And it needs you paid, powerful, and showing up fully. Catch Nona and Stefanie LIVE together on Instagram soon — follow Stefanie at @moonvoidtarot Follow Nona: @bothcanbetrue Inner Compass: Coming Home to Yourself Virtual Workshop with Nona, 4/12 from 11:30-2:00PM PST. This beautiful workshop will have us sitting in reflection, meditation, embodiment and actual true takeaways that you can put into practice on how to access your truest and most authentic self. This will be a powerful workshop deigned to give you a way back home to the most important person: YOU. Tickets here: https://square.link/u/6C0m8qLY

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Hosted by Nona, a licensed psychotherapist, healer, adjunct professor, and intuitive, this podcast explores a wide range of topics to help you connect with your most authentic self. In a world that often demands extremes, we’ll journey together into the gray areas where both can be true. No more rigid binaries—let’s explore the beauty of embracing complexity, learning how to find balance, and being comfortable in the messiness of life.

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    Both Can Be True with Nona
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    48
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