South Africa Tech Marketers

The Global Talent Co.

South Africa Tech Marketers (SATM), hosted by Kirsti Lang, brings you candid conversations with leading South African marketers who are making waves globally. Each episode uncovers the authentic stories and practical insights you need to level up your marketing career. Whether you’re just starting out or looking to break into international tech companies, SATM connects you with South Africans who’ve navigated the path to global success, sharing their hard-won lessons and actionable advice along the way.

  1. The Secret to Viral Content and Real Connection | Masechaba Setsubi

    10/15/2025

    The Secret to Viral Content and Real Connection | Masechaba Setsubi

    Episode Summary In this episode of South African Tech Marketers, Masechaba “Chabi” Setsubi, Social Media Lead at VML, takes us behind the scenes of managing Coca-Cola’s social media across Southern, East, and Central Africa. From publishing to production to agency life, Chabi has built a career around storytelling, collaboration, and community building. She shares what it takes to create real-time content for one of the world’s biggest brands, how to balance agility with strategy, and why the best marketers are master collaborators who never stop learning . Topics Discussed How Chabi went from book publishing to leading Coca-Cola’s social media across Africa Lessons from moving between production houses, agencies, and global brands Finding the balance between too little and too much content How TikTok’s unpredictable trends challenge and inspire brands The art of real-time marketing and creating “at the speed of culture” Why Nando’s and Savanna are masterclasses in brand voice consistency How community management builds “love marks” and brand advocacy The biggest lesson of her career: become a master collaborator early Key Takeaways Every platform has a purpose. Know your audience and tailor your tone, not just your creative. Too much content can be as paralyzing as too little. Strategy and curation matter as much as creation. TikTok is built on unpredictability. Success comes from agility and emotional connection, not rigid planning. Strong brands are built on strong community management. Social media is a brand’s first line of relationship building. Community managers are your first responders. They shape brand sentiment in real time. Collaboration accelerates learning. Working across disciplines shortens the learning curve and sharpens your craft. Be brave and consistent. You earn brand tone the way Nando’s did—through years of showing up authentically.

    37 min
  2. Why AI Alone Won’t Replace Marketers – Andrina Diedericks

    09/30/2025

    Why AI Alone Won’t Replace Marketers – Andrina Diedericks

    In this episode of South African Tech Marketers, Andrina Diedericks, Marketing Manager at CloudSmiths and former enterprise marketing leader at Google Cloud, shares her journey from building brands in biometrics and SaaS to driving adoption for hyperscalers and startups. Now helping launch Fabe DX, an AI platform designed to give small businesses affordable tech consulting power, Andrina reflects on the lessons she’s learned in B2B marketing, the discipline needed to balance AI with creativity, and why empathy remains the marketer’s ultimate tool.   Topics Discussed From electrical engineering to marketing: an unexpected career pivot 11 years scaling Idemia’s biometric brand across Africa Lessons from Mimecast and Google Cloud on enterprise marketing Behind the scenes of launching Google Cloud’s first Africa region The vision behind Fabe DX and its mission to empower small businesses with AI Why startups need to “scrap the playbook” and market differently Using AI daily in marketing—without losing creativity or originality How empathy and partnerships are still the most irreplaceable marketing tools Key Takeaways Stay flexible. Career shifts can open doors—sometimes a holiday job becomes a lifelong path. Startups require creativity. Without big budgets, marketers must find fresh, scrappy ways to reach audiences. AI is a superpower, not a crutch. Use it for efficiency but protect your creative “muscle” by practicing original work. Empathy is irreplaceable. Technology can’t replicate the emotional intelligence marketers bring to customers and partners. Scrap the corporate playbook. Startups win when they rethink B2B tactics and experiment with new channels. Partnerships multiply impact. Leaning into ecosystems and shared communities drives growth beyond ad spend

    27 min
  3. What Startups Get Wrong About Positioning with Imke Dannhauser

    09/17/2025

    What Startups Get Wrong About Positioning with Imke Dannhauser

    Episode Summary In this episode of South African Tech Marketers, Imke Dannhauser, co-founder of WS&O, shares her bold move from Google—where she led marketing for Search and AI in South Africa—to launching a startup focused on helping businesses crack their value propositions. Imke reflects on how milestone moments reshaped her career path, why startups fail without a clear “why us,” and what freedom and success mean when you step off the corporate track Topics Discussed Why Imke left Google to co-found WS&O How serendipity and a half-written business plan sparked a startup Why value propositions are the foundation of brand success Lessons from SAB, McKinsey, and Google that shaped her new venture The hidden costs of weak positioning in startups How remote and fractional work redefine career freedom Practical advice for marketers dreaming of going solo Redefining success beyond job titles and income  Key Takeaways Don’t do it alone. A strong founding team makes uncertainty manageable and growth more sustainable. Differentiate or die. Your value proposition must answer why customers should choose you—and keep choosing you. Over-reliance on performance marketing is a trap. Without brand and positioning, funnels collapse once ads stop. Big career moves are rarely linear. Serendipity and timing often play as big a role as planning. Redefine success. True freedom is money + time + energy to pursue a meaningful life. Remote and flexible work are building blocks for more intentional, fulfilling careers

    23 min
  4. The Three Futures of Influencer Marketing with Pierre Cassuto

    09/15/2025

    The Three Futures of Influencer Marketing with Pierre Cassuto

    In this episode of South African Tech Marketers, Pierre Cassuto, Global Chief Marketing Officer at Humanz, unpacks the realities of influencer marketing—from pricing models to scaling relationships—and why South African marketers are uniquely positioned to lead in this space. Pierre shares his global journey from Ogilvy Paris to building Humanz into an AI-powered influencer platform across six countries. His insights will change the way you think about creators, content, and the future of marketing.  Topics Discussed The unexpected journey from Ogilvy Paris to building Humanz globally Why follower counts are irrelevant—and what really drives performance The cheat sheet for calculating fair influencer payment Why South Africa has huge untapped opportunities in influencer marketing The shift from treating creators as “media buys” to building real relationships How AI is powering transparency and scale in the influencer ecosystem Predictions: how influencer marketing will split into three distinct worlds Lessons on navigating cultural differences as a global CMO SA-Tech-Marketers-Pierre-Cassut… Key Takeaways Stop paying by followers. Performance depends on engagement, not follower count. Use median engagement. Benchmark cost-per-engagement is the fairest way to price influencer work. Relationships > reach. Treat creators like partners, not billboards. Motivation and fit matter as much as competence. Big opportunity in SA. Few specialists exist today—marketers who build strong relationships will be in high demand. Creators are everywhere. Start with your customers—brand ambassadors can come from your CRM, not just celebrity deals. Global exposure is vital. Don’t get stuck as a big fish in a small pond—look outward for learning and inspiration. Perspective matters. Consumers don’t think about your brand as much as you do. Learn to see through their lens

    34 min
  5. Turning Stories into Strategy at KPRM with Kopano Mashoana

    08/27/2025

    Turning Stories into Strategy at KPRM with Kopano Mashoana

    Episode Summary In this episode of South African Tech Marketers, Kopano Mashoana, founder and managing director of KPRM Media Solutions, shares her inspiring journey from freelancing during university to building a purpose-driven agency centered on conscious marketing. Kopano opens up about the grit it takes to grow a business from scratch, why empathy and storytelling are the foundations of great marketing, and how building a personal brand—especially on LinkedIn—can unlock opportunities you never imagined. Whether you’re an aspiring marketer or a seasoned pro, Kopano’s story is a masterclass in courage, intentionality, and community-driven growth. Topics Discussed Starting an agency at just 21 years old—and surviving the slow road to profitability How freelancing and “working for free” built a powerful marketing portfolio The importance of soft skills and empathy in hiring and client relationships Why conscious marketing means aligning client work with purpose and impact Growing from one-off projects to retainers and scaling a team in South Africa Breaking away from toxic agency culture and redefining what work should feel like Building a personal brand that’s more powerful than a logo Why LinkedIn is the ultimate platform for South African marketers to get noticed Key Takeaways Empathy is your superpower. Great marketing comes from understanding people deeply—not just pushing products. A portfolio beats a CV. In digital marketing, showing real work (even unpaid) matters more than qualifications. Soft skills > technical skills. Curiosity, grit, and empathy will get you further than knowing every tool. Personal branding is career insurance. Whether you run a business or work in corporate, being visible makes you employable and promotable. LinkedIn is currency. Treat your profile and content as assets that can attract clients, investors, and new roles. Culture fit matters both ways. Choose clients and teammates whose values align with your purpose. Community creates opportunities. Surround yourself with marketers who share knowledge, support, and inspiration.

    33 min
  6. South African Media Meets Modern Marketing: How Khanyisa Melwa Is Growing SABC’s Digital Future

    08/05/2025

    South African Media Meets Modern Marketing: How Khanyisa Melwa Is Growing SABC’s Digital Future

    Show Notes: In this episode of SA Tech Marketers, we sit down with Khanyisa Melwa, SABC’s Marketing Manager for Digital, to unpack what it takes to lead digital transformation inside one of South Africa’s most iconic media institutions. From a “mixed masala” career spanning tech, agencies, and FMCG to reimagining public broadcast strategy in a streaming-first world, Khanyisa offers hard-earned insights into digital growth, brand building, and leadership inside legacy systems. What We Cover: Growing SABC+, a local streaming platform competing for audience and revenue in a Meta/Google-dominated landscape How to balance commercial growth with public service mandate Tactics for driving focus and strategic alignment inside large organisations The critical role of writing and storytelling in modern marketing Why marketers must look upstream to Exco-level priorities to guide their day-to-day work Khanyisa’s favorite use of AI (spoiler: it's not copywriting) Why authentic content beats polished perfection in 2025 Career lessons from a real mistake that cost R7,000—and what it taught him about detail and ownership Tactical Takeaways: Align marketing work with top-level strategy conversations Use AI tools like ChatGPT to support thinking, not replace human craft Legacy institutions can still grow fast—SABC+ hit 1 million users in under a year TikTok shows us: people want authentic, relatable content, not overproduced gloss Learn to say “What’s the priority?”—not just “What’s next?” Nonlinear careers (he calls his a “mixed masala”) are an asset in modern marketing About the Guest: Khanyisa Melwa is the Marketing Manager: Digital at SABC, responsible for building and scaling SABC+ and leading digital growth across the corporation. His past experience includes senior marketing and brand roles at PepsiCo, EPPF, Media24, and digital analytics platform Narratiive. He’s also a seasoned writer, newsletter creator, and community builder, passionate about using storytelling to move people and brands. Resources: Khanyisa’s Newsletter: www.globaltalent.co SA Tech Marketers Slack: Khanyisa Melwa Instagram/Twitter: @khanyisamelwa Substack: kanisamelwa.substack.com

    34 min
  7. Storytelling That Sells: Zekhethelo Chiliza on Leading Digital Marketing for a Global Beauty Brand

    07/22/2025

    Storytelling That Sells: Zekhethelo Chiliza on Leading Digital Marketing for a Global Beauty Brand

    In this episode of SA Tech Marketers, we sit down with Zekhethelo “Zee” Chiliza, Digital Marketing Manager at Benefit Cosmetics South Africa. From spoken word poetry and legal studies to broadcasting, influencer strategy, and leading the local digital voice for a global beauty brand—Zee’s story is a masterclass in adaptable storytelling. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on how South African marketers can carve their unique paths, why “storytelling is a superpower,” and how to champion authentic local voices inside global brands. Topics We Cover: Zee’s Unconventional Career Path: From poetry clubs to politics, radio broadcasting to beauty marketing—embracing a nonlinear career journey. Breaking Into Digital Marketing: How Zee fell in love with digital during YFM’s Y Academy and built her career across agencies, media, and global brands. Behind the Scenes at Benefit Cosmetics: What it’s like leading digital for a playful, bold, global beauty brand—while making campaigns resonate locally in SA. Localising Global Campaigns: Adapting summer launches for South African winters, making copy relatable, and celebrating diverse South African faces. Influencer Strategy 101: Why authentic creators matter more than follower counts, how to co-create content (not dictate it), and why “show, don’t tell” wins. The Rise of TikTok and Realness: How TikTok changed the marketing game, and how Zee sees platforms like Instagram, YouTube, and X working together. Insights from the Community: How Zee taps into the “walking insights” around her to stay plugged into the market. Advice for Aspiring Tech Marketers: Why curiosity, adaptability, and people skills are career superpowers—and how your South African identity can be an asset globally. Key Takeaways: 1. Your career doesn’t need to be linear—follow the skills that light you up. 2. Storytelling isn’t just a skill—it’s a strategy for connecting with audiences and navigating your career. 3. “Local relevance beats global sameness”—always contextualise global campaigns to resonate with your audience. 4. Authenticity wins—work with creators who genuinely love your brand and give them the freedom to tell their own stories. 5. Use your environment—every conversation is an insight opportunity; marketing is more human than numbers. 6. Platforms serve different purposes—learn to balance short-form realness (TikTok), community (X), inspiration (Instagram), long-form storytelling (YouTube), and professional storytelling (LinkedIn). 7. Your South African perspective is a strength—global brands value local insights, cultural nuance, and market understanding. Follow Zee: Instagram: @zekhethelochiliza LinkedIn: www.globaltalent.co SA Tech Marketers Slack – Join our community of South African marketers breaking into global tech. Join here. Episode Sponsor: This episode is powered by Global Talent Co — connecting South Africa’s brightest marketing talent with the world’s fastest-growing companies.

    32 min
  8. What Most Marketers Get Wrong About B2B vs B2C

    07/08/2025

    What Most Marketers Get Wrong About B2B vs B2C

    In this episode of South Africa Tech Marketers, we sit down with Tracey-Lee Zürcher-Campbell, Head of Marketing at Payflex, to unpack her remarkable pivot from storytelling in journalism to leading brand, performance, and Martech strategy in one of South Africa’s most recognisable fintechs. With a tiny team, a powerful agency model, and a relentless focus on efficiency, Tracey-Lee shares how she’s built scalable systems, championed customer experience, and embraced AI — all while maintaining joy and emotional resonance in the brand voice. If you're an ambitious South African marketer wondering how to lead, adapt, and stay relevant in a tech-forward world, this conversation is packed with lessons you can apply right now. Topics Discussed The power of storytelling in performance marketing Lessons from working across B2B, B2C, and B2G sectors Building brand trust with just five in-house marketers Why consistency beats complexity in fintech Martech stacks and making tech “talk to each other” Scaling with small teams: systems, agency partners & smart prioritisation Practical use cases for AI in CX, content, and automation Career advice: pivoting with purpose, not panic The Peter Principle and how to avoid being promoted into failure The underrated value of joy in marketing Key Takeaways You don’t need a huge team to build a powerful brand. At Payflex, just five in-house marketers — backed by great agency partners — deliver one of SA’s most trusted fintech brands. Build with emotional clarity. Whether it’s B2C, B2B, or even B2G, people make decisions based on emotional drivers. Rational benefits are table stakes. Adopt fast, integrate faster. Martech only works if your tools talk to each other. Tracey-Lee shares how Payflex built a connected stack using Asana, Zoho, Zendesk, and Netcore Cloud. AI should reduce cost and increase joy. From cutting call volumes 40% with a chatbot, to using AI image gen for hyper-personalised campaigns — smart AI use starts small and solves real problems. South African marketers must stay curious. Tracey-Lee regularly meets with unknown vendors just to explore what’s out there. Staying still is not an option. Careers are non-linear. If you’re not where you want to be yet, you’re still learning. Tracey-Lee’s early “detours” made her a deeper, more versatile marketer. 🔗 Guest Bio Tracey-Lee Zürcher-Campbell is the Head of Marketing at Payflex, South Africa’s leading “buy now, pay later” platform. With a background in journalism and over 15 years of experience across performance, brand, and Martech, she’s helped legacy businesses and fast-growing scale-ups build trust with customers and stakeholders alike. She’s a relentless systems-thinker, an advocate for upskilling, and proof that South African marketers can thrive globally — without needing to relocate. 🔗 Connect with Tracey-Lee on LinkedIn

    32 min

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South Africa Tech Marketers (SATM), hosted by Kirsti Lang, brings you candid conversations with leading South African marketers who are making waves globally. Each episode uncovers the authentic stories and practical insights you need to level up your marketing career. Whether you’re just starting out or looking to break into international tech companies, SATM connects you with South Africans who’ve navigated the path to global success, sharing their hard-won lessons and actionable advice along the way.